Is 67 Senators. The instant that I see evidence that 16 rethugs plus Lieberman may listen to reason on impeachment, I'm on board. I think there are stronger grounds than the ones mentioned above however.

Acquittal in the Senate would simply allow claims of actual innocence and vindication.

Where we stand now is that it is impossible to get even 60 votes to stop a filibuster of a motion of censure of Alberto Gonzolez. Where the hell are 67 votes to convict and remove from office the vice president of the United States for high crimes and misdemeanors going to come from?

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Dick Cheney's list of crimes is long enough to write a book about. This guy is just incredibly dishonest and anti-democratic... where to begin?

We could start with the Cheney Energy Task Force, which was set up just eight days after the Prez took office. This meeting featured plans for the invasion of Iraq, or at least the perusal of maps of Iraqi oilfields and lists of foreign suitors - why were they doing that? After all, wasn't the topic "US energy security"? Could it have been that the entire occupation of Iraq and seizure of the oilfields was planned well in advance of 9/11?

More to the point, who attended those meetings? Chevron, Exxon, BP, Shell, Halliburton, Enron? Cheney still has money in Halliburton via investments held in Vanguard - as much as $100 million.

While we are on this topic, why hasn't any Democratic committee subpoenaed the documents of the Cheney Energy Task Force?

That would inevitably lead to a discussion of the real reason for the invasion of Iraq: the seizure of Iraqi oilfields for the benefit of the major international oil corporations (Exxon, Shell, BP, Chevron, ConocoPhillips) and their associated financiers (Barclays UK, Fidelity, Vanguard, State Street, AXA, JP Morgan, etc.).

Yes, the war really was all about the oil.

Topic #2: Cooking up fake intelligence on Iraqi biological and nuclear weapons programs - Yes, he had a lot of help, from James Woolsey, the Iraqi National Congress, and Rumsfeld's Pentagon. There were many Cheney visitations to CIA headquarters to press them to sign off on the INC 'intelligence'. Cheney still claims that Saddam had ties to 9/11, doesn't he?

Where are the INC members today? Where is their founding father? Where did all that stolen cash ('tons went missing in Iraq') end up? Why are all these guys building villas in Europe?

Wikipedia has this to say about the INC:
The name INC was reportedly coined by public relations expert John Rendon (of the Rendon Group agency) and the group was funded by the United States. The group received millions in covert funding in the 1990s, and then about $8 million a year in overt funding after the passage of the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998. The deep involvement of the American CIA in the creation and early funding of the INC in its early years led many to consider the group a "creation of the CIA" rather than an organ of genuine Iraqi opposition.

Hmmm.... I don't think that Congress has called hearings on the falsified pre-war intelligence, have they? All I can find on that is Senate probe of prewar intelligence stalls, By Rick Klein, Globe, July 27, 2005 (that was the Republican Congress) and White House Opposes Move to Declassify Report on Iraq's WMDs, San Francisco Examiner, June 25 2007

For the record, Cheney, Bush, Rice and numerous other apparatchiks pushed the lies about Iraqi WMDs for months preceding the invasion - and the US corporate media played right along, and printed the government propaganda without bothering to check whether it was even plausible.

What else has Cheney been up to? How about his Stalinist purge of the executive branch of government? How about the firing of US attorneys in collaboration with Rove and Gonzales? How about the outing of undercover CIA agents in collaboration with Scooter Libby?

The list goes on and on and on. If anyone deserves the full penalty of the law, Cheney does.

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The "Most Impeachable Crime", according to former Florida Senator Bob Graham, who headed the Senate Intelligence Committee until his retirement at the end of 2002, is obstructing the investigation into the 9-11 attacks and lying to investigators from the Congress and the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission--actions that are "perilously close to treason", according to co-author of the book "The Case for Treason..", Dave Lindorff.

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We are at an important moment in American history.

It is more significant than that.
The world is once again at a nuclear cliff-edge, with several people, including within the present government, advocating an expansion of war, including using nuclear weapons.

And who are those "people" with their fingers restlessly, secretly tapping, way too close to the nuclear buttons?
What are their natures, their motives; what do they wish for the world; how competant have they been in finding peaceful solutions for the world, and is that their aim, or is it, rather, unending war?
And what kinds of weapons are they unleashing on us already, and into the future?
And how carefully do they account for what they do, and for the costs?
How much do they value human life?

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Robert Greenwald's films should be required reading for any civics course. The contribution that this one gifted documentarian had made to his nation is i,possible to estimate.

It is heartening (is it not?) that the American people are starting to awaken from the right wing coma they've been snoozing under since the day they sent a feeble-minded, failed "B" movie actor to the White House over a quarter of a century ago.

Maybe there's hope for this silly country after all.

Peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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The republicans would love nothing better than to impeach Cheny Why, to place another Gerald Ford in place who could bring a strong neo-con incumbent into the 2008 race in addition helping polarize the base.

They both go... shrub first

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You know full well that it will be blocked by the senate, why waste time and demonstrate to the voters that you are just another revengeful party. The Dems are better off sensuring his every move and spending their time making good things happen, like passing a single-payer healthcare plan and full public funding of campaigns. The senate R's are vulnerable and some (enough?) are likely to side with the Dems just to get reelected.

Let's make positive strides, not waste time impeaching someone on his way out already.

Jack Lohman
www.BusinessCoalition.net
Business Coalition for Single-payer Healthcare

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ANYONE OUT THERE KNOWS A ROCK BAND!!?

THEY ARE GOING TO CALL THEMSELVES BLUE FFLOYD
AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THE VIDEO TO PINK FLOYDS " ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL"

IT IS GOING TO BE A PULL NO PUNCHES VIDEO SAY IT LIKE IT REALLY IS. SHOW EVERY ONE OF THOSE CONSPIRING COHORT CONSPIRITORS: NWO ILLUMINATI, CABAL, CFR, STREET LEVEL GANGSTALKERS ETC Cheney he belongs all those listed, maybe except the last one. But who knows, maybe this is what he does incognito at night time


KILLER LYRICS

WE DON'T NEED NO THOUGHT CONTROL,........ BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM.


PERPS! LEAVE THOSE PEOPLE ALONE........ BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM.


PERPS! LEAVE US PEOPLE ALONE........ BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM

WE DON'T NEED NO RULE BY E-L-I-T-E-S,........ BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM.

WE DON'T NEED NO DECIDERS (We decide),.... BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM.

PERPS! LEAVE THAT CONSTITUTION ALONE.... BOOMM...... BOOM BOOM.



THINK MTV WILL RUN IT?? DON'T LET THAT STOP US!!!.


And folks, I am serious about this video. But because of 24/7/360 I can't get this going.

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Why is the author and champion of HR 333 mentioned in your article? Dennis Kucinich has been right about right about health care (Michael Moore endorses his plan), right about ending the war, and right about impeachment. Give credit where credit is due.

Thanks to Mr. Greenwald, but the video already seems outdated. It's a shame that only legally impeachable offenses can be listed in the resolution, when most people are infuriated by Cheney's malicious, unmitigated chutzpah!

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I is for Impeach the Idiots
they have to do something if there is to be any resemblance of the U.S. left to rebuild itself. and soon.

they have not only destroy other lives but the U.S. itself in the process. and for what?

they should make Dicky do time.
and throw georgie boy in with him, the vile man who is deluded and thinks his wars and invasions are justified with lies.

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Correction: Why ISN'T Dennis Kucinich mentioned in this article? (See original post two up).

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I still see idiots riding around with Bush/Cheney bumper stickers on their cars (including my next door neighbors). What will it take before the idiots in this country wake up?

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Cheney and others like him are not only a threat to the US, but to us in Canada and world at large. You Americans have an obligation to take responsibility for allowing such unconscionable thugs - and their corporate masters/buddies - to abuse the naive and trusting, and make fools of the rest of you. You have a duty to ensure that they face consequences for their corrupt actions, if for no other reason than to show other immoral corporate and political creatures that they will be monitored - as you have neglected to do for at least the past seven years - and held accountable.

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Neocons are all imbecilic, aging, wheezing syphilitic pathological creeps, dirty old men that smoke Cuban cigars and go on child slave sex vacations in third world nations while on oxycontin between snorting viagra and having secret affairs with gay hookers when they’re not spouting homophobic bullshit or writing breathlessly idiotic, fact free columns in major newspapers or clinking glasses filled with $200 a bottle bourbon with the Skull and Bones classmates at grand socials. These revolting sub-human filth should all be in GITMO right now receiving DIY sex changes from first year Cuban medical students. Fuck impeachment, I want imprisonment.

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Bush having a fatal heart attack in office.

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As with any self-respecting "rogue nation" (K.O, 22 June), flying over it can mean being shot down.

"Dick Cheney is protected at his official residence because it's already in restricted airspace. He's also protected by flight restrictions over his Montana estate when he's there.

"Now, the AP reports that his [then] new home on Chesapeake Bay in Maryland has been declared a no-fly zone all the time, whether he's there, at one of his other homes, in his reinforced bunker at an undisclosed location, or elsewhere.

"We all know that homeowner's insurance doesn't cover acts of war, and he's probably got some expensive china and lovely landscaping to protect, so of course I understand the necessity.

"Pilots violating the one-mile radius could be shot down."
Bill Denneen - Omnimatic - Nov 2005, "Cheney's no-fly zone"

Various high profile celebs are now looking to buy homes there, in hope of sharing some of that no-fly protection, according to Joanna Mazewski - AHN - "Global News for a Digital World", 5 July 07.

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As much as I feel they both deserve to be impeached, won't this just be another distraction? If all their crimes would be broadcast in the media and the public would finally wake up to who they voted for, then YES, by all means? But would that happen? Or would the media just make a circus out of it, selecting bits and pieces for those who would never turn to CSPAN on their own. And meanwhile will the powers behind Bush and Cheney go on spinning their web? The power-elite keeps their position by knowing how to exploit the public's weakness against them. The U.S pulbic's weakness is its willingness to be spoon fed by the media without ever digging deeper. So I could see how impeachment at this late date could actually be worked to the power-elite's advantage. It is really a tough call.

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I really believe when and if it all comes out, the Cheney story will blow people's socks off. Nobody has operated like him, got away with it for as long, or done as much. That walk-in size safe he has in his office needs to hear the words 'Drill it!' from a police officer waving a warrant.

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Who needs proof that these are not "Theories".

What is the profile of the sample who reads at this site?
What's up here? Is it any wonder these right-wing guys are always RUNNING circles around you folks even if they can't talk circles around you!

Not one of them are going to end up impeached.

PS I didn't try to rate my own comment. That is not in line with my character. You know values, ethics and sensibilities.

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The best argument for impeachment now is that it will be impossible to do after they leave office. I know; oxymoron. But, it's true. The world would have become a much better place now if Richard Nixon had been impeached then. The same is true for Cheney/Bush. People and pundits will be worshiping their behinds and imitating their antics for the next 100 years if the dirty job of impeachment doesn't get done. Conviction is another matter.

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Remember the President who lied about his personal sex matters? A topic that is the business of nobody but his and his family's. Apparently a crime 100 times bigger than lying a war upon a nation!

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I don't buy the notion that poor us were all misled by Cheney, it just relieves the responsibility... the evidence was there! It was everywhere! The intelligence didn't back up what he and others were saying... hell, if I could find it was all spin and outright lies, surely anyone could. Yet the majority just went along, taking our television's advice, backed the program, then once troops were comitted, we had to then "support the troops"... (didn't people in this country and the rest of the world get kind of upset when good Germans, Japanese and Italians in the 30s supported their troops no matter what they did?) We aren't somehow different and above it all because we are Americans although much is done in the way of our socialization to make us feel that we are... that sense of entitlement so many of us have that just annoys the hell out of people everywhere... sure, impeach the bastard and Georgie too but not without taking responsibility for allowing ourselves to be led like a bunch of fat lemmings. Too many of us just jumped in a RAH RAHed like we were trained to do at sporting events. Look what "our troops" are doing! Can you really accept that we must support this simply because they are ours?

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The Congress and Senate should Walk Out and Force The Resignations of G.W.Bush and Dick Cheney..!

If there aren't the votes or backbone for Impeachment then just Walk Out and Shut Down the Government till Bush is forced to Resign along with Richard Dick Cheney..!

As the pressure builds Republicans will also fold and call for their resignations..!

It's the only way..!

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H.Res 333 is currently with the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties, chaired by US Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY).

Artur Davis (AL-07)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-20)
Ellison, (signed on)
Conyers (seems to be opposing it)
Bobby Scott (VA-03)
Mel Watt (NC-12)
Steve Cohen (TN-09).

There are also five Republicans on that subcommittee:
Trent Franks AZ2
Mike Pence IN6
Daryll Issa CA49 (according to someone's comment, was backstabbed by his own party)
Steve King IA5
Jim Jordan OH4
These people "have just as much clout in committee, don't ignore them, thinking that as Rs they are hopeless."- comment, and more, at link:

http://impeachforpeace.org/
impeach_bush_blog/?p=2409

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...the polls serve to advance their endless growth corporate agenda, of course.

Why else would the media ignore countless polls showing Americans want an end to mass immigration? Obviously, their endless growth corporate agenda LOVES endless mass immigration, that's why!

None of this should be any surprise -- we aren't going to get the truth about corporate scumbags from corporate scumbags.

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'nuff said.

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Since you seem to find a poll result of 54% highly significant, here's a few more poll results for you.

If you can't be bothered to open the link, here's a couple samples:

68% feel that the number of immigrants who cross the border, whether legal or illegal is “too high”.
-- [Polling Company, Sept. 2006]

69% support an immigration bill that focuses exclusively on reducing illegal immigration and enforcing the borders.
-- [Rassmussen Reports Poll taken from June 11-12, 2007]


Of course our "leaders" should be impeached for all the reasons you cited. They should also be impeached for trying to foist unlimited population growth on us, despite what countless polls clearly reveal.

Here's our pro-amnesty President Smirky shamelessly pandering: "I think you told me you had 13 brothers and -- 15 brothers and sisters. (Laughter.) We believe in family values. (Laughter.)"

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It's the only way to cut the power of the Presidency down to its constitutional limits.

An Impeachment now will almost automatically end our involvement in Iraq.

Especially if the Impeachment is successful. It's also the only way to change the seemingly inevitable.
...Americans taking up arms against Americans...

Face it, kids, nobody will win a "civil" War. People on the "good" side of the rebellion will die and suffer just as surely as the people on the "Wrong" side.

And if, more likely WHEN, such a rebellion and mutiny occurs, we had Damned Sure better be completely in the right, demonstrably... we HAVE to take the high road or we will surely slide into, if it can be believed, an even worse despotism than the Bush/Cheney cabal have placed on us.

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. . . that impeachment would be a waste of time and a distraction from the more important task of eliminating more Republicans (esp. from the White House) in '08. However, the Scooter Libby pardon debacle has changed my mind. This Administration--Cheney in particular--is nothing but a bunch of crooks and thugs who totally disregard the law at will. Cheney and Bush must be impeached--if only as a way of showing that the kind of illegal behavior in which they have engaged won't be tolerated (at least not by everyone).

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How come I get this whenever I post a comment? I've never dreamed of rating myself!!!

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Face the fact. Face it in its harsh reality. Democrats haven't the guts to impeach let alone convict. Republicans and Democrats are all on the same course for the United States. Draw a pyramid and the base has two points. Democrats on one side, Republicans on the other. They may talk differently, oppose each other in the publics eye but the end result is they all merge at the top point together. That point of course is the absolute destruction of our sovereignty. We the Poeple are nothing to these politicians from both sides of the isle. Both parties operate in a vaccum and to hell with our Constitution or Bill of Rights is their modus operandi. Only fools fail to see this and only fools continue to hope for someone within either party to be the rescuer. Realists understand the evidence and know we are a nation in grave danger from these traitors in Washington. The Dreamers still want to think that there is no evil and that more of the same will save us.

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I feel obliged to remind the community that leadership is an artifact of our primitive ancestry... from those ancient times before we had the internet.

Now there is a way we can do away with all leaders and rule ourselves; without incurring the traditional drawbacks of "mob rule" or "tyranny of the majority."

It's called "open source governance" and it is coming to a community near you through the Metagovernment project.

Wouldn't that be better than having people like Dick Cheney -- or ANY of these money-grubbing, power-hungry, out-for-themselves politicians (yes, that includes Democrats, too) -- ruling over us?

Why impeach one of them? Why not get rid of the entire lot of them forever?

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(202) 225-4965 - Speaker Pelosi's Office

I called her office yesterday and said something like this:

Tell Speaker Pelosi to put impeachment back on the table. The Libby commutation is a mockery of justice, a free pass for crimes advised by the President himself. Congress must check this rogue executive. Paris Hilton has more integrity than this White House. She did her time.


Keep your message short and to the point. This sample is almost too long. If you can't get through today, try again tomorrow and the next day and so on until you do.

If you're not comfortable asserting that Libby was advised by the President, here are a few articles that you should read.


Libby Says Bush Authorized Leaks
Bush Directed Cheney To Counter War Critic
Cheney's Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair

"Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy this Pres. asked to stick his head in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others." -- Dick Cheney

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Congress has tried investigating through congressional hearings and have been stonewalled by the "I can't recall" defense; lawsuits have been filed by the ACLU joined by journalist, etc., about the President's illegal wiretap program which was originally found to be illegal by a Michigan Federal court judge, but on appeal the finding was overturned by a 3 panel Federal appellate court in which the 2 Republican appointed judges ruled to overturn; Scooter Libby was the subject of a special prosecutor's investigation and is found guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury and his sentence is commuted by the President; and finally, when The White House is served with subpoenas for information and testimony in front of a congressional hearing, The President claims executive privilege. What is left if not impeachment? But there needs to be impeachment of both Dick Cheney and President Bush as executive privilege does not apply in impeachment proceedings and the President would be stripped of that option and valuable information would finally become available. if the Administration failed to produce requested information they would be found in contempt of Congress. Impeachment is the only way to proceed and now is the time!

Remember that President Bush gave himself the right to declare a National emergency and Marshal law via an Executive Order he signed for himself, which he could invoke at any time, suspending any elections. Also don't think for a second that he would not order an invasion of Iran without congressional authority because he felt Iran was an imminent threat, had no time to consult with congress (remember the illegal wire taps?) and then declare a National Emergency! Also impeachment at this time would allow the people to see how their Representatives and Senators voted prior to the election and considering over 70% of the people are against the war and that only 26% of the people favor President Bush, it would be a hard stretch for any Republican Senator to vote not to impeach President Bush and V.P. Cheney.

Also impeachment at this time would help gained the respect of the international community as they would see that America is finally standing up to this President who has fallen out of favor world wide. The latest poll states that the world thinks more of Vladmir Putin than President Bush.

Nancy Pelosi needs to get off her hands and get serious, otherwise this Administration will just continue to stonewall. If she thinks that she will not impeach due to the fact that the President's term is almost over, she better think again as he could do much more harm to America before his term is up. She needs to perform her duties as Speaker and represent the will of the people or step down and leave someone else do it. The Democrats got elected by the independents to do this, but it's just been a huge disappointment. They've tried everything else, and get stonewalled. Impeachment is a last resort, but now it is a must. The President brought it on himself.

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While I certainly agree with the idea that impeachment has no further use or meaning if it isn't applied in the case of these two rascals, the great danger in impeaching Cheney is that we'd then have George Bush as president--and does anyone want that? Bush should first be removed; he's the loose screw, the bull in the China shop, then Cheney. Impeaching Cheney before Bush makes no sense; Cheney may be evil, but he's at least rational.

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“we're waking up to who has the real power in the White House…”

Are we actually “waking” ? I think not.

I respect much of Greenwald’s work. But to suggest that Cheney is THE heavyweight power out of the oval office and Washington for the better part of the last decade is sad failure to frame the debate in anything like real terms.

Tinhorn Cheney is certainly more engaged than clear and present puppet GW Bush but a world of 911 cover-up and equally phony “war on terror” was decades and more in planning. Such a world does not make Cheney a top don powerhouse player @ DC “government” by monopolist corporate crime (i.e. crypto-fascism).

Lord Cheney is – at best – mid management for an entrenched old robber baron oligarchy that hasn’t left the stage since the before the Gilded Age. What Greenwald does here is mistake skin-deep surface players and symptoms for the core issues.

Impeach by all means…

But don’t look to impeachment for restoring the republic from the stooge fascist state it has become. For in the long run, to do so would be pointless limited hangout. And don’t pretend that temp self-serve criminals like Cheney, Bush, et al, are far more than they are.


“The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses.”
DOCTOR ALBERT EINSTEIN (Nobel Laureate and refugee from Nazi fascism. 1879-1955)

“I have unwittingly ruined my country… we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world. A government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON (on oligarch tyranny, three years after signing a “Federal Reserve Act” and its privately owned credit monopoly into law. Quote 1916)

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (on oligarch rule in a letter to handler “Colonel” Edward M. House, confidence man for the cartel and founder of the Council on Foreign Relations. House also handled President Wilson in the foisting of a private and unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corporation sham with its IRS in 1913. FDR speaks of monopolists at cartel centers of New York & London that own the U.S. Government. November 21st, l933)

“Britain is the slave of an international financial bloc.”
BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the money cartel June 20, 1934)

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