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I'm not the descendent of a monkey! [VIDEO]

Posted by Adam Howard at 5:47 PM on June 5, 2007.


The 2008 Republican candidates for president want to make something perfectly clear: "God created Earth and he loves us."
New Hampshire Republican Debate

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There are so many lowlights from the New Hampshire Republican presidential debate I don't even know where to begin. I loved Tommy Thompson's plan to put Bush on the "lecture circuit" if he were elected president. Oh, and when Giuliani, McCain and others said that this wasn't the right time to address gays in the military right after Wolf Blitzer explained that valuable Arabic translators were being lost in the Iraq War because they were coming out of the closet and being sent home. Or when Romney poorly explained his shifting positions on abortion, gays in the military...well, really everything. So long story short, it was impossible to pick the greatest moment of pure idiocy, so I just picked what I thought was a particularly good one: Mike Huckabee and his pals' lengthy narrative about how the Earth was created. Enjoy!

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Tagged as: election08, republican debate, huckabee

Adam Howard is the editor of PEEK.


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I couldn't agree more!!
Posted by: kwalla on Jun 5, 2007 6:58 PM   
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I don't think he's descended from a monkey either. My guess would be a nematode, or perhaps a cockroach. Definitely not a primate of any sort thoguh.

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» RE: I couldn't agree more!! Posted by: Ian MacLeod
» RE: I couldn't agree more!! Posted by: blitzmesser
Wow...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 5, 2007 7:48 PM   
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So.. being president is not as complicated as being president.

So.. if it is an unfair question, then why the hell should it matter to voters????

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» correction Posted by: JoshuaLudd
YIKES
Posted by: shuckahuck on Jun 5, 2007 8:23 PM   
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I am truly frightened for this country. I cannot imagine that a panel of supposedly educated men actually believe what they profess to believe. Oh to be a fly on the wall of their inner most thoughts...

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Political Posturing in both parties
Posted by: gdonald on Jun 5, 2007 8:40 PM   
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Republican's or Democrat's, there is little difference in the final outcome. Both parties are rife with men and women who on most given days will have one or two who make the case for mental illness.

I have no doubts that some even believe what they say but what they say isn't important. It's what they do and have done that is important. It tells us everything we need to know. So far there isn't one candidate of either two parties that is worth the time to listen to. There isn't one candidate in either of the two parties that I would believe a word they say. Hillary is a liar and nuts. Guiliani is a womanizer and a liar. Edwards was a Senator and offered little. Thompson is an actor turned Senator and backed by the Bush family, so much for integrity. McCain is just plain nuts. I could go on but I got my message across.

I'll vote for myself as an independant because there are no real people running, just nuts and liars.

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Well...
Posted by: Robba29 on Jun 5, 2007 8:46 PM   
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I'll be a monkey's uncle! hahahaha

Get it? Thank you, I'll be here all week.

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Since when
Posted by: JCrowe on Jun 6, 2007 1:51 AM   
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...has acceptance of reality precluded theism? Everyone I've discussed this with says s/he believes in both god and science.

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» RE: Since when Posted by: anchoorite
» RE: Since when Posted by: treehugr
My Humble Opinion
Posted by: pcushniesr on Jun 6, 2007 4:13 AM   
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I infer from Huckabee’s first few words in response to the question that he thought the question was slightly out of order. I agree. As we all know, the Constitution prohibits any kind of religious litmus test for public office and no candidate should have to answer this question or others like it, nor should they broach the subject themselves. Personally, am no more interested in a candidate’s religious views than I am in his sexual or bathroom habits. This is assuming, of course, that whoever is elected will keep his religious views out of his politics. In an ideal world, all mention of gods and religion would be strictly prohibited by any candidate or elected official when speaking in an official capacity. We have enough trouble dealing with mere mortals without dragging their imaginary friends into the issues.

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» RE: My Humble Opinion Posted by: treehugr
Idiots. Wouldn't it properly be considered "ascending" from a monkey?
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jun 6, 2007 6:26 AM   
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Well, not in his case but for most people I would consider it an "acension" not "decentsion".

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Notice the "Position Creep" in the GOP Platform?
Posted by: David V on Jun 6, 2007 8:17 AM   
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Fewer than 10 years ago, this debate was centered around the premise of God taking 6 24-hour periods to magically create the universe approximately 6000 years ago. This position, still being posited by far right-wingers such as Kent "Dr. Dino" Hovind, strictly prohibited the notion of an evolutionary period, even one directed by the hand of God, aka "intelligent design", due to the literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis. Furthermore, these Biblical absolutists had at the ready a slew of "scientific research" which proved radio carbon dating was fraudulent, thereby eliminating the evidence of an Earth that was older than 6000 years.

Now, the folks over at the GOP are shifting positions. Mike Huckabee, for instance, claims that he "just doesn't know" if the Earth is 6000 years old or 6000 millennial old. He claims he "just doesn't know" if God created the universe with a wave of his hand or guided it through a period of evolutionary change.

The most disturbing aspect is how Huckabee implies that those who use the term 'evolution' are specifically and categorically denying the existence of God. In reality, the vast majority of the world's organized religions have NO PROBLEM reconciling the two and view the Book of Genesis as a metaphorical interpretation of the process.

In closing, I find it more than a little hypocritical for the GOP to claim that "this has no place in a political debate", when in fact, it was the GOP who introduced religion into modern American politics in the first place.

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YIKES.
Posted by: preemptivelove on Jun 6, 2007 8:47 AM   
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YIKES!!!!!!!

The question was way out of line....and stupid. But the answers were......well.........in a word, FRIGHTENING.

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Frightening is an understatement
Posted by: reval on Jun 6, 2007 9:05 AM   
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We've been witnesses to the very people who represent all those who are solid obstacles to the evolution of our society.

We're going backwards at speeds approaching light.

Rev. El
WVCSR

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I agree
Posted by: J. S. on Jun 6, 2007 10:24 AM   
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"God created Earth and he loves us." I agree with this headline. I also agree with Darwin's theory of evolution. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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» RE: I agree Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: I agree Posted by: anchoorite
» RE: I agree Posted by: treehugr
He doesn't know
Posted by: Thucy on Jun 6, 2007 10:36 AM   
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if the world was created 6,000 years ago? He actually can't decide between the mountain of scientific evidence that points to the universe being billions of years old, everything from radio-astronomical observation to carbon dating to geology to archaeology, and a theory put forth by a group of ignorant yahoos who wouldn't know science if it stepped on them? And this inability to discern reality from fantasy has nothing to do with whether or not he's qualified to be president?

I wonder what other aspects of widely recognized reality leave him "undecided." "Do you believe the earth orbits around the sun, or that the earth is the exact center of the universe and all existence rotates around it?" "I don't know, and that question has nothing to do with whether or not I'll be a good president." "Do you believe lightning is a form of electricity, or is it simply Zeus expressing his anger at this most recent lack of burnt offerings?" "I couldn't tell you, but it doesn't matter because as president I won't be writing 8th grade science books."

We don't expect you to write them, but it sure would be nice if you'd read one or two, before casting yourself as the next leader of the country.

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Drivel
Posted by: tomad51 on Jun 6, 2007 3:25 PM   
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I am embarrassed hearing the drivel spilling from the minds and mouths of these men. This shows how they play to the TV viewers in the country. Perhaps a candidate run on American Idol or Survivor could help us choose the next "Prez"

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"You may have descended from a monkey, but I haven't"
Posted by: blitzmesser on Jun 6, 2007 3:26 PM   
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Father and son were at the zoo looking at the monkeys, when little b. told his father what he had just learned in school: that humans are descendants of monkeys. Big B was outraged and shouted: "Maybe you descended from a monkey, but I sure didn't!"

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another dimwit running for president
Posted by: blitzmesser on Jun 6, 2007 3:39 PM   
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I wouldn't buy a new car from this guy. What a turd.
He can blink faster than a strobelight.

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The applause...
Posted by: motamanx on Jun 6, 2007 7:17 PM   
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...for this man's response was the frightening part of this vid. The question was idiotic, but the response was worse.

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Why does every idiot who opposes evolution...
Posted by: Scientz on Jun 7, 2007 5:13 AM   
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...think that evolutionary theory states we came from monkeys?

Monkeys and humans and all other primates have the same genetic ancestor, but we didn't "come from" monkeys. Are people really that dumb?

All mammalian carnivores have the creodont on their family tree, but no one suggests dogs "came from" bears.

Get a clue.

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what a bunch of losers ...
Posted by: anchoorite on Jun 7, 2007 5:47 PM   
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These people are real fruitcakes.

With someone like this as presidents, I envision "Dark Ages" coming upon you, americans!

Good luck!

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Brownback...
Posted by: bob t on Jun 8, 2007 11:06 AM   
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...is another repub phony. He said science and religion are not at odds. Yet he belongs to the political party that endorses exactly that point of view.

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Could we call...
Posted by: bob t on Jun 8, 2007 11:50 AM   
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...all of them, maybe Lysenko(Russian) geneticists. And those of us who can remember that period in Russian history know that Lysenkoism=bad science=personal science and = science based on personal belief and science based on ideology. In other words it was a disaster to non ideologically based science, which is what science is supposed to be all about.
People starved and died because of Lysenkoism. I remember laughing about it and the ideological stupidity that prompted and spread such thinking.
The Republican party and their religious supporters are examples of that today. Can we all say, Galileo.
In the Bush Republican ideology trumps reason, science, ethics, medicine and just about everything else that does not fall within their ideological bubble. Or should i say bubble brains.
The Republican party of ideological position creep is and will bite them in the ass. The Law of Talion, what goes around..., is hot on their ideology as it is that of every fundie religion that is dogmatic and absolutist and modernity will bite them all in their ideology, maybe even consume them and their ideology. The problem is that they and their ideology may/will consume everyone else as well.
Galileo... need I say more.

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Listening to these pathetic critters
Posted by: bettyn on Jun 8, 2007 12:46 PM   
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Is it any wonder our country and its schools are in the shape they are in today. Add this to the "No Child Left Behind" Bushbaloney and you've got one pathetic mess.

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Blatant Disregard...
Posted by: PixelFool on Jun 8, 2007 1:39 PM   
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Wow. Um. What happened to pretending that there is a separation of church and state in this country? These guys aren't even pretending anymore. What place does faith have in a discussion about presidential candidacy? Personally I'm not excited about having such a very very religious president currently, but frankly I don't care AT ALL what the faith of my president is as long as it doesn't influence his or her decisions. The biggest problem is that so many of these religious political leaders WANT their religion to influence heavily, and this generally leads to the oppression of some people, whereas a nonreligious leader would be working for a more equal balance of rights in this country.

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not descended from a money, 'god' loves us all...hmmmn!
Posted by: treehugr on Jun 8, 2007 7:02 PM   
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'god' is a blind-faith belief. There is more than enough scientific and physical evidence from fossils and DNA to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that humankind did indeed descend from sub-groups of apes. A monkey is a monkey, not an ape, any more than a monkey is an orangutan.

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Richard Dawkins summed it up
Posted by: lotus23 on Jun 10, 2007 10:22 AM   
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I recall an interview Richard Dawkins gave on a call-in show (WBUR's On Point). Someone called in and asked "Look at all the trees and mountains and flowers and all this beauty. All this couldn't have just evolved. It doesn't make sense."

Exasperated, Dawkins retorted: "Oh, do go and read a book! There are many books on the subject in the library. I'm sure you would find them quite fascinating."

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