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Imus gets 2-Week suspension [VIDEO]

Posted by Pam Spaulding at 8:08 AM on April 10, 2007.


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[Previous posts on the Imus controversy with video, HERE and HERE.]

A two-week vacation from the airwaves is not the appropriate response by MSNBC and CBS radio. Imus and his on-air colleagues have a history of spewing racist and sexist comments on a program that hosts major political figures and his networks seem to think a slap on the wrist and a wink and a nod is going to end this mess.

His frequent on-air guests are already tapping him -- they're not running for cover -- they are already looking at how to salvage their outlet. Boston Globe columnist Tom Oliphant appeared on the April 9 edition of Imus in the Morning and said: "Good morning, Mr. Imus, and solidarity forever, by the way." And then this exchange occurred. (via Media Matters).

OLIPHANT: This guy -- David Carr, who writes a pretty good media column on Mondays --

IMUS: Right.

OLIPHANT: -- calls up, and the first question he asks me is, "Are you thinking about not appearing on Imus?" And for once in my life, I answered a direct question with a direct answer. I said, "No, I'm not." And he says, "Well, why not?" And I said, "Because, being the world's most boring person, I had taken the trouble to go all the way though this episode from about two minutes before you said what you said last Wednesday, and then all the way through the statement you made spontaneously on Thursday and then the more prepared one you made on Friday, and I said that's it. That took care of it as far as I'm concerned."

And -- but it was a cute little trick to see if your constituency would falter, and I was very happy to say no.

IMUS: Well, I appreciate that. I don't think your loyalty is misguided…

…OLIPHANT: But to me, that only means that those of us who, through an accident, were scheduled, who know better, have a moral obligation to stand up and say to you, "Solidarity forever, pal."

And Newsweek's Howard Fineman doesn't want to deprive Imus of his outlet either. He's his bro', man:

FINEMAN: Just before I came on the show, I was coming upstairs and my cell phone rang, and it was some listener who called me out of the blue. I'd never heard of the guy before. I'd never heard his name. He called me and he said, "Are you going to go on the show and finally confront this Imus guy? Are you going to quit enabling him?" And, you know, I thought about that, and I said to the guy, "You know, I'll puzzle that through on the radio." And I would like to continue to enable you to do a lot of the good things you do. Including, you know, talking about stuff happening in the world, which you do a very good job of on this show..

…You know, I don't know what'll happen. I think -- you know, it's a different time, Imus. You know, it's different than it was even a few years ago, politically. I mean, we may, you know -- and the environment, politically, has changed. And some of the stuff that you used to do, you probably can't do anymore.

And what about presidential wannabes? Some  are already welcoming him back in the fold.

Two Republican presidential contenders, Sen. John McCain and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, said they accepted Imus' apology and would return as guests on his program.

…But Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama said Monday, "The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds. With a public platform comes a trust. As far as I'm concerned, he violated that trust."

And Bob Steele, who teaches ethics to journalists at the Poynter Institute, said it is "unwise for journalists to go on his program. It not only condones his behavior but gives a level of credibility to him and his program."

He says Imus does talk "about substantive issues, which is why politicians and journalists go on. But you have to look at the whole picture. You can't just look at one corner and say, 'Yeah, he talks about good issues,' and ignore the serious problems."

This is why Imus has to go. There will be no self-policing. "You probably can't do it anymore." Jesus. I guess Fineman means you can't do it on the air, but in the clubby band of journalists and media figures, this kind of racism and misogyny is still worth a belly laugh among friends. It sounds like neither Oliphant or Fineman would call him out on this in private conversation. They'd chuckle and just say "oh, that's just the I-Man."

After all, they're not the target of the "nappy headed hos" comment, and I doubt there are any decisionmakers of color (or racially aware, non-POC) at MSNBC or CBS who would have telegraphed years ago to Imus that he couldn't continue years of making a living tossing off racist and sexist comments for a profit. This time he wasn't picking on media stars or politicians, he was slurring a women's basketball team. They aren't public political figures; Imus and his clowning colleagues were attacking black women with the worst stereotypes imaginable.

Why cater to the most base elements of society while at the same time offering a program up as a platform for legitimate political discussion?

I must post the comments of Rev. Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, who appeared on Lou Dobbs last night. He said it best:

DOBBS: Michael, this -- this is unusual in that he -- he attacked a women's basketball team at Rutgers during the national finals.

DYSON: Right.

DOBBS: Doesn't whatever process that moves forward have to begin first and foremost with them?

DYSON: There's no question that he has to -- you know, and I heard that he's attempting to reach out to them. But the reality is that what he said about those particular black women is symbolic and representative. Those black women represent women who work at MSNBC, who work at CNN. Black women in corporate America who have, quote, "nappy hair", who wear their hair in a way that is alternative to the mainstream, straightened hair.

So the reality is that nappy hair is as equally lethal as the so-called host statement. Because it's signifying upon the choices that black women make aesthetically and what they look like. That's the deepness of the harm. And all of us have to confront that in every circle in America.

…The reality is behind the scenes, sexism, misogyny and patriarchy are sustained, most especially and most helpfully, in subtle fashion. It's not the calling of the "H" word. At least you know where they're coming from. It's not in hip-hop, where you know I'm calling you a "B" or an "H" because that's explicit. It's the more subtle subordination of women to men's lives that has to be dealt with.

Anyone who says this is just about shock jock joking isn't really thinking about the real problem here. Imus has been rolling stuff like this off of his tongue to millions for years without facing the music, and his sponsors and networks affiliated with him have been content with an apology as long as the money still flows into their coffers.

And I'm not saying that Imus doesn't have the right to say whatever he wants. Imus can go stand out on a street corner and exercise his First Amendment right and shout "nappy headed hos" from sunrise to sunset. That doesn't mean he (and CBS and MSNBC) have to profit by spreading bigotry.

But you know what? The hip-hop community isn't off the hook either. See why after the flip…

***

Over at Too Sense, in an appropriately titled post, "White Supremacy Outsources Its Vocabulary," the misogynistic culture has given license for Imus to think he can get a pass. Sorry, the hip hop treatment of women doesn't get one either.

Hip-hop has granted black men greater access to white women. It has also granted white men greater access to black women; make no mistake, your teenage son, little brother, or husband is tuning into the "booty channel" (also known as Black Entertainment Television) when you're not home. The attitude towards women in mainstream Hip-hop is that women are commodities, an attitude that mimics attitudes towards gender in greater American society, a fact made obvious by any beer commercial.

What has happened here is a subtle, unspoken agreement between black and white men that black women and their minds and bodies are owed as little respect as the minds and bodies of white women. This happens even as overt racism towards black men in the public sphere becomes more and more accessible. This happens because on some level, black men know we cannot be seen as men unless we effectively subjigate, commodify, and exploit black women.

…The sad thing is that Imus' comments represent white appropriation of the black language of self-hatred.

Thank you. These two wrongs don't make a right, and we see the poisonous fruit that has been borne from a tree that some in the community have planted.

Jasmyne Cannick has launched a series of posts that will take this on front and center. Can't Sing That No More.

In light of the Don Imus remarks and Black America's outrage over the white shock jocks use of the words 'nappy-headed hos," on national television in reference to the Rutgers University women's basketball team, I thought now was just as good a time to start a new series called "Can't Sing That No More."

Periodically, I will feature some of America's top songs by African-Americans that use derogatory terms to refer to women and sometimes worse.

As I continue to say, we can't blame whites for calling us out of our names when we ourselves condone it with our hips and our chips.

Today's "Can't Sing That No More" comes from Black America's own steppin' child molester R. Kelly.

Among other things, this song basically says he's a flirt, he's a pimp, your girl is a ho, any girl is a ho, all the girls want him, he's rich and cute and he's going to screw her, even if she's your girl.

And, Jasmyne notes, that recording is Number 3 on the Billboard R&B/Hip Hop Charts.

I'm sorry, as a black woman -- and as a lesbian -- I'm tired of being denigrated by all sorts of elements in the dominant culture and communities of color. Few pay the price for reinforcing and validating institutionalized bigotry. You get the occasional outlandish dolt they can point to and say "that's not me" (Michael Richards, Tim Hardaway -- and some STILL tried to give them a pass), but most of the time it's business as usual. When it comes out in expressions under the guise of "entertainment," that's a clear sign that those feelings and beliefs are internalized.

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Pam Spaulding blogs at Pam's House Blend.


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Are we thought police, now?
Posted by: InfinityDog on Apr 10, 2007 8:43 AM   
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While I consider Imus's remarks despicable and his apology lame, I am uncomfortable with the notion that he should automatically and irrevocably be deprived of his livelihood --- in effect, silenced.

The First Amendment isn't intended merely to protect speech that we think is acceptable. It's even more vital to protect people's right to express ideas that we find reprehensible.

Ideally, the public revulsion at his remarks would result in a sharp and permanent decline in his ratings, and he would be eliminated from the marketplace of ideas by consensus. I realize, however, that there are enough people who concur with the hateful sentiments he expressed that such an outcome is unlikely. But is the best answer to muzzle Imus -- or to push for our own voice and opinions on the air to counter him?

And yes, I am aware that corporate-owned media generally is not friendly to progressive viewpoints, and that simplistic reactionary sentiments are more easily conveyed via talk radio, putting complex and nuanced liberal ideas at a disadvantage. But I get a fearful shiver when, unable to counter a bad idea, we give in to the bullying desire to suppress it instead.

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In The Club- One of the Boys
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 10, 2007 9:13 AM   
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If you have to ask if you are in- you don't get it. Imus gets a pass because he's in the club. He's nothing more than Stern for the middle aged Beltway/Wall Street types and wannabes without the strippers.

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Imus & Crew=Pond-Scum Mentality
Posted by: mrtshw on Apr 10, 2007 9:20 AM   
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Imus is a grossly overpaid bully who is truly repugnant. However he surrounds himself with cretins even more odious;Senator Norm Coleman's racist, zionist crack head cousin, Sid Rosen, the Autistic ' Yes Man', Charles McCord and especially the skinhead racist, homophobe,aryan; Bernard McQuirk! His support crew minus Rob Bartlett and Chris Carlin needs the heave ho! This is Imus' only road to salvation and repentence in my opinion.

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Best hope.
Posted by: CriminallySane on Apr 10, 2007 9:26 AM   
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The best hope is that Imus' numbers drop enough to induce the cancellation of his show. The sad truth is that even the morbidly curious tuning in (and we all know the rubberneckers at highway crashes and train wrecks) keep his audience numbers up.

Change the station, America...

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AND?
Posted by: pacto on Apr 10, 2007 9:29 AM   
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HOW ABOUT THE PRODUCER,ISNT HE JUST AS REPULSIVE AS IMUS? THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN FROM THE POWER SEAT WHERE THEY CAN SPEW THEIR SICKNESS TO THE WORLD-

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I Am The Champion Of Nappy Headed Hoes
Posted by: hole11 on Apr 10, 2007 9:50 AM   
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Always have been. I mean it's more important to spend money on tattoos than on hair care products that would make you look like something you are not.

We need to push this effort to corporate America, the military, and go as far as to have an amendment to the US Constitution that Nappy Headed Hoes will not be discriminated in any way.

So far only Traci Chapman and Whoopi Goldberg has been with me on this courageous journey to change the perceptions that are based on bigotry and racism.

Come on, show your love.

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Death Penalty.
Posted by: Mojoe on Apr 10, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Seriously, wouldn't that prove a point? If we kill him, then people won't say hurtful things anymore.

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Imus is amazingly perceptive...
Posted by: custersbud on Apr 10, 2007 10:05 AM   
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and was simply making an observation, and stating his opinion.To see the likes of Al Sharpton, whose career can be summed up in two words, Tawona Brawley, and the ever-present Jesse Jackson, flitting around the country stirring up support for Imus's firing makes me want to throw up! These two turkeys have made a living from wailing about the plight of the poor, put upon, black man. Neither of them have done one thing that helps the people they supposedly "represent". For CBS and MSNBC to cave into threats of boycotts from Shapton and Jackson's "acolytes" is simply absurd. Imus has done more for the disadvantaged in one day than those calling for his scalp have done in their entire lives. The guy has said he's sorry. Live with it Al, Jesse, et all, and move on. There are real problems you could and should be working!

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Leftist Hypocrisy?
Posted by: on Apr 10, 2007 10:55 AM   
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Remember the Dixie Chicks brouhaha a few years back? Could it be that the same lefties who decried the right-wing morons who wanted to censor and punish the Dixie Chicks are now screaming to censor and punish Don Imus?

Of course, I know what the response will be: "What the Dixie Chicks said was free speech. But Don Imus went over the line."

Who decides where the line is drawn? Us lefties? (And yes, I am very much a lefty.) Isn't it enough that people who don't want to buy Dixie Chicks CDs can opt not to do so, and people who don't want to listen to Don Imus can also exercise the right not to?

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Quit crying like little babies.
Posted by: FightTheGiant on Apr 10, 2007 11:28 AM   
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Was I the only child who mother told him "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Seriously get over it. Words are words. Everyone says things at times that will offend another person. America needs to chill out.

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Who are Don Imus' corporate sponsors/advertisers/stations?
Posted by: Bart Thesc on Apr 10, 2007 12:34 PM   
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This list needs editing and additional info. Please help if you can. These are noted from others' comments on the net.

Station list is from MSNBC and may be incomplete. Frequencies were removed. If you want to listen you can look up the frequency on your own.

It wouldn't hurt to contact any advertisers on any of these stations if you wish to express disapproval. Not just those who advertise on the Imus show. The louder the noise, the better the chance it has of being heard.

CBS - Syndicator
Westwood One - Syndicator
WFAN - originating station
Chrysler
Bigelow Tea
Simon & Schuster
Random House
Mohegan Sun Casino
Infinity Broadcasting (owner WFAN among others)
Mercedes-Benz (WFAN website ad)

Arizona
— Tucson KJLL
— Scottsdale KXAM
California
— Bakersfield KGEO
— Eureka KGOE
— San Francisco KVON
— Santa Barbara KTMS
Colorado
— Aspen-Vail KNFO
— Colorado Springs KKML
— Steamboat Springs KRMR
Connecticut
— New London WSUB
Washington D.C.
— Bethesda, MD WTNT
Florida
— Orlando/Altamonte/Springs WORL
— Sarasota WLSS
— Tallahassee WUTL
— Tampa-Clearwater WTAN
— Zephyrhills WZHR
Georgia
— Atlanta WALR
— Columbus WRCG
Idaho
— Boise KTIK
Indiana
— Ft. Wayne WGL
Iowa
— Sioux City KMNS
Kansas
— Wichita KFH KNSS
Kentucky
— Lexington-Fayette WLXG
Louisiana
— New Orleans WSMB
Maine
— Bangor WWMJ
— Portland WZAN
Maryland
— Ocean City WQMR
Massachusetts
— Boston WTKK
— Pittsfield WBEC
Minnesota
— Duluth WDSM
— Rochester KOLM
Mississippi
— Greenville WGVM
Missouri
— Columbia KSSZ
— Springfield KWTO
Nevada
— Carson City KPTL
New Hampshire
— Claremont WHDQ
— Keene WZBK
— Manchester WNHI
— P'mouth-Dover-Rochester WQSO
New Mexico
— Albuquerque KNML
New York
— Albany-Schenectady WOFX
— Binghamton WENE
— Elmira-Corning WABH WELM WHHO
— Ithaca WPIE
— New York WFAN
— Plattsburgh WEAV AM 960
— Syracuse WHEN
— Utica-Rome WXUR
— Willsboro WXZO
North Carolina
— Greenville/Washington WCZI
— Nags Head WYND
— Raleigh-Durham WRBZ
Ohio
— Middletown/Cincinnati WPFB
Oregon
— Portland KOTK
Pennsylvania
— Braddock WURP
— Erie WFNN
— Hagerstown-Chambersburg WARK WARX
— Milton WMLP
— Oil City WKQW
— Philadelphia WTEL
— Russell WQFX
— Wilkes-Barre/Scranton WARM
— Williamsport WRAK
Rhode Island
— Providence WHJJ
South Carolina
— Charleston WQSC
South Dakota
— Rapid City KTOQ
— Sioux Falls KSOO
Texas
— Rollingwood/Austin KJCE
— El Paso KTSM
Utah
— Salt Lake City KJQS
Vermont
— Barre-Rutland WEXP WXZO
— Brattleboro WKVT
— Burlington WXZO
Virginia
— Blacksburg-Radford WFNR
— Johnson City-Bristol WFHG
— Harrisonburg WKCY
— Norfolk WLRT
— Richmond WHAP WLEE WVNZ
— Roanoke-Lynchburg WGMN WVGM
Washington
— Seattle-Tacoma KRKO
West Virginia
— Charleston WVTS
Wisconsin
— Green Bay WNFL
— LaCrosse WKLJ
— Wausau WRIG

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Sweaty Moon
Posted by: Qevin on Apr 10, 2007 1:12 PM   
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Whence went forgiveness?

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Every day a billion plus muslims get demonized in the US...
Posted by: justaguy on Apr 10, 2007 3:10 PM   
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.....by media, politicians of both major parties, the churches, the zionists, pretty much everyone.

When a muslim dares to stick his head up and point that out, they are smeared, branded and ridiculed.

Brown is the new black it seems.

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WHILE WE ALL GET UPSET ABOUT IMUS "STICKS & STONES" REMARKS
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Apr 10, 2007 7:43 PM   
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George W. Bush was involved with the 911 attacks, refused an honest investigation of the attacks multiplying the pain of all of the family members. Then Bush used HIS ATTACKS ON 911 as an excuse to invade Iraq using bombs that burned the flesh off human beings. He believes im TORTURE and uses it. He spies on private citizens; he has trashed the Constitution and endless other traitorous acts. CAN'T WE FIND THE TIME TO REOPEN THE 911 INVESTIGATION? Or must we become obsessed with Imus "dime a dozen" thoughtless remarks? See www.911truth.org and MUJCA-net

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If
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Apr 11, 2007 5:03 AM   
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you think that what imus said was repulsive... fine. The truth of the matter is people say things like that all the time... people who work in the public eye... Anyone who works in retail or restaurants says things that are far far worse than what IMus said. I think the guys a jerk...but its just words... You cannot let other peoples words affect your life to such an extent.
Instead of focusing on the negative.... do something to change things..

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where is the love
Posted by: fuzypupy on Apr 11, 2007 8:28 AM   
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here is the thing Imus is no better or worse then mark levin, howard stern or other shock jocks but it has to stop being promoted on our public airwaves....HATE AND BIGOTRY SHOULD NEVER BE PROMOTED TO AND BY THE MASSES. IF WE ARE TRUELY THE CHRISTIAN COUNTRY WE SAY WE ARE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR SUPPORT OF HATE. the truth is these shows are ment to stir people up and we as a country need to stop the hate mongering.

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What BushCheneyCo hopes to get out of all of this
Posted by: xbj on Apr 11, 2007 8:45 AM   
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That we'll all still be talking about it when they give the go-ahead to begin nuking Iran...

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Waterman
Posted by: happybear on Apr 11, 2007 9:25 AM   
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Don Imus is, IMHO, disgusting, and I can't imagine anyone listening to him on a regular basis. However, I am obviously one of the few. His popularity is a testament to those who like to hear his form of entertainment. His recent comment in conversation with two others of the same ilk was not out-of-line for him, and not unusual for shock radio. If he had refused to play a hip-hop recording that referred to women the same way, he would have been chastised as racist, as well. But those sort of recording artists are usually "Black" (actually Negro, but that's another politically correct story),and no one would criticize a "Black" man who called his women "nappy headed hos". It seems as though certain activists will take anything and use it simply to their advantage, and they will always find a group of "Politically Correctists" who will be "Outraged" at such comments. When Jesse Jackson called the group of persons in Chicago "those hymies" (or maybe it was New York, who cares) it simply showed that most of these reactionaries are bogotted racists, and will do the politically correct thing only when the reaction is negative enough. It appears that "The Great Right Revernd (whoever) from uppa new yak" (I think they call him Al Sharpton, I call him a liar and fool, he certainly is not a Baptist Preacher) needed the publicity. Let Don Imus continue in his world with his crowd following him, and he and Rush Limburger and Howard Stern and The Great Right Revrend will stop getting the good, but easily influenced young women of Rutgers in such an uproar. The situation was created by big brother Al, and needs not to be repeated again and again for his own self-promotion, and Don Imus doesn't have the character to derserve the attention.

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Get over it!
Posted by: HomerScarborough on Apr 11, 2007 11:01 AM   
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Isn't this really a non-issue now? This horse has been beaten to death already and should have been only a two day news story. With the world starving, people killing each other all over the middle east (and other parts of the world), we are now spending our energy going after a second rate, past his prime, radio personality. He has always been an insensitive ass and so why should we expect him to act otherwise just because it involves young adult black female athletes. His comments were distasteful, yes, but actionable or subject to censor, no. His comments were mean and insulting, but we are all adults and so should just consider the source and get over it.

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