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Olbermann special comment: Sect'y Rice: "Use the Google!" [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 11:39 PM on February 26, 2007.


Schooling Rice on her idiotic Saddam/Hitler comparison
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Here's what inspired the latest Olbermann mutilation of that vintage rightwing admixture of incompetence and treachery...

On the Sunday Morning Interview Show of Broken-Record on Fox, Dr. Rice spoke a paragraph, which if it had been included in a remedial history paper at the weakest high school in the nation, would've gotten the writer an "F" - maybe an expulsion. If Congress were now to revise the Iraq authorization, she said, out loud, with an adult present, "…It would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed to change then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that, so that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown."

The Secretary's resume reads that she has a Masters' Degree and a Ph.D in Political Science. The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot.

Dr. Rice spoke 42 words. She may have made more mistakes in them, than did the President in his State of the Union Address in 2003.

Video, upper right. Transcript after the jump...

Finally, as promised, a Special Comment on the remarks yesterday by Secretary of State Rice.

We already know about her suggestion that the President could just ignore whatever Congressional Democrats do about Iraq. Just ignore Congress.

We know how that game always turns out. Ask President Nixon. Ask President Andrew Johnson. Or ask Vice President Cheney, who utterly contradicted Secretary Rice today, when he warned Mr. Musharraf of Pakistan about what those mean Congressional Democrats could do to his foreign aid. All of this, par for the course.

But about what the Secretary said regarding the prospect of Congress, revising or repealing the 2002 authorization of the war in Iraq: Here we go again!

From springs spent trying to link Saddam Hussein to 9/11, to summers of cynically manipulated intelligence through autumns of false patriotism, to winters of war, we have had more than four years of every cheap trick and every degree of calculated cynicism from this Administration, filled with three-card monte players. But the longer Dr. Rice and these other pickpockets of a nation's goodness have walked among us, waving flags and slandering opponents and making true enemies -- foreign and domestic -- all hat and no cattle all the while, the overriding truth of their occupancy of our highest offices of state, has only gradually become clear.

As they asked in that Avis Commercial: "Ever get the feeling some people just stopped trying?" Secretary Rumsfeld thought he could equate those who doubted him, with Nazi appeasers, without reminding anybody that the actual, historical Nazi appeasers in this country in the 1930's, were the Republicans. Vice President Cheney thought he could talk as if he and he alone knew the 'truth' about Iraq and 9/11, without anyone ever noticing that even the rest of the Administration officially disagreed with him. But Secretary of State Rice may have now taken the cake.

On the Sunday Morning Interview Show of Broken-Record on Fox, Dr. Rice spoke a paragraph, which if it had been included in a remedial history paper at the weakest high school in the nation, would've gotten the writer an "F" - maybe an expulsion. If Congress were now to revise the Iraq authorization, she said, out loud, with an adult present, "…It would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed to change then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that, so that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown."

The Secretary's resume reads that she has a Masters' Degree and a Ph.D in Political Science. The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot.

Dr. Rice spoke 42 words. She may have made more mistakes in them, than did the President in his State of the Union Address in 2003.

There is, obviously, no mistaking Saddam Hussein for a human being. But nor is there any mistaking him for Adolf Hitler. Invoking the German dictator who subjugated Europe; who tried to exterminate the Jews; who sought to overtake the world -- is not just in the poorest of taste but in its hyperbole, it insults not merely the victims of the Third Reich, but those in this country who fought it. And defeated it. Saddam Hussein was not Adolf Hitler.

And George W. Bush is not Franklin D. Roosevelt -- nor Dwight D. Eisenhower. He isn't even George H.W. Bush, who fought in that war. However, even through the clouds of deliberately-spread fear, and even under the weight of a thousand exaggerations of the five years past, one can just barely make out how a battle against international terrorism in 2007 could be compared -- by some -- to the Second World War.

The analogy is weak, and it instantly begs the question of why those of "The Greatest Generation" focused on Hitler and Hirohito but our leaders seem to have ignored their vague parallels of today to instead concentrate on the Mussolinis of modern terrorism. But in some, small, "you didn't fail, Junior, but you may need to go to summer school" kind of way, you can just make out that comparison.

But Secretary Rice, overthrowing Saddam Hussein was akin to overthrowing Adolf Hitler? Are you kidding?

Did you want to provoke the world's laughter? And, please, Madame Secretary, if you are going to make that most implausible, subjective, dubious, ridiculous comparison… If you want to be as far off the mark about the Second World War as, say, the pathetic Holocaust-denier from Iran, Ahmadinejad… At least get the easily verifiable facts right -- the facts whose home through history lie in your own department.

"The resolution that allowed the United States to" overthrow Hitler? On the 11th of December, 1941, at 8 o'clock in the morning, two of Hitler's diplomats walked up to the State Department -- your office, Secretary Rice -- and ninety minutes later they were handing a declaration of war to the Chief of the Department's European Division. The Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor four days earlier and the Germans simply piled on. Your predecessors, Dr. Rice, didn't spend a year making up phony evidence and mistaking German balloon-inflating trucks for mobile germ warfare labs.

They didn't pretend the world was ending because a tin-pot tyrant couldn't hand over the chemical weapons, it turned out he'd destroyed a decade earlier. The Germans walked up to the front door of our State Department and said "we're at war." It was in all the papers!

And when that war ended, more than three horrible years later, our troops, and the Russians, were in Berlin. And we stayed, as an occupying force, well in the 1950's. As an occupying force, Madam Secretary! If you want to compare what we did to Hitler and in Germany, to what we did to Saddam and in Iraq, I'm afraid you're going to have to buy the whole analogy.

We were an occupying force in Germany, Dr. Rice, and by your logic, we're now an occupying force in Iraq. And if that's the way you see it, you damn well better come out and tell the American people so. (Save your breath telling it to the Iraqis -- most of them already buy that part of the comparison). "It would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed to change then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that, so that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown." We already have a subjectively false comparison between Hitler and Saddam.

We already have a historically false comparison between Germany and Iraq. We already have blissful ignorance by our Secretary of State about how this country got into the war against Hitler. But then there's this part about changing "the resolution" about Iraq, that it would be as ridiculous in the Secretary's eyes, as saying that after Hitler was defeated, we needed to go back to Congress to "deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown." Oh, good grief, Secretary Rice, that's exactly what we did do! We went back to Congress to deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after Hitler was overthrown! It was called the Marshall Plan.

Marshall!

General George Catlett Marshall!

Secretary of State!

The job you have now!

C'mon!

Twelve billion, 400 thousand dollars to stabilize all of Europe economically -- to keep the next enemies of freedom, the Russians, out, and democracy, in! And how do you suppose that happened? The President of the United States went back to Congress, and asked it for a new authorization, and for the money. And do you have any idea, Madame Secretary, who opposed him when he did that? The Republicans!

'We've spent enough money in Europe,' said Senator Taft of Ohio. 'We've spent enough of our resources,' said former President Hoover. It's time to pull out of there!

As they stand up, we'll stand down! This administration has long thought otherwise, but you can't cherry-pick life -- whether life in 2007, or life in the history page marked 1945. You can't keep the facts that fit your prejudices, and throw out the ones that destroy your theories. And if you're going to try to do that; if you still want to fool some people into thinking that Saddam was Hitler, and once we gave FDR that blank check in Germany he was no longer subject to the laws of Congress or gravity or physics, at least, stop humiliating us. Get your facts straight.

Use….. the Google!

You've been on Fox News Sunday, Secretary Rice. That network has got another show premiering tomorrow night. You could go on that one, too.

It might be a better fit.

It's called "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?"

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Wow!
Posted by: HeroesAll on Feb 27, 2007 3:07 AM   
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I wish we had an Olbermann. I wish we could clone him and send him out into the street in multitudinous numbers, to make it clear to the doofus brigade that the US administration (and the Australian lackeys) are completely fucking lying.

No. Lovely as that thought is, I know that the doofus brigade wouldn't even understand him. The sentences were too long. Some of the words were too difficult. The concepts, well, waaaayyy over their heads. And, of course, there was no Britney, so who'd care?

I'm ashamed of my species.

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» RE: Wow! Posted by: sethmo
I'm proud to be the same species as Mr. Olbermann
Posted by: dobka on Feb 27, 2007 7:46 AM   
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Thanks for wickedly sharp comparisons, thanks for speaking the truth to power, and amen.

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The guy's riding high
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 27, 2007 8:41 AM   
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I just hope he keeps the great content and doesn't get TOO theatrical/histrionic. I'm worried he seems to be getting into himself a bit, but then.... he's doing great and is rightfully disdainful and pissed at all these losers in the Administration.

What I'm hoping is that he'll take up the Iran debacle forthcoming, or has he??? This is a cosmic nightmare in the making.

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» RE: The guy's riding high Posted by: tap17x
frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Feb 27, 2007 8:56 AM   
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Ms. Rice is just another Bush Bobblehead. GWB does not tolerate ANY disagreement. Hence, he has surrounded himself with bobbleheads! And Saddam was no Hitler!!!!

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» Saddam was no Hitler? Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: Saddam was no Hitler? Posted by: Ian MacLeod
You know...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 27, 2007 9:17 AM   
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Every voter should have to see that, honestly. Yes, of course Olberman is somewhat biased (as is ALL mainstream media), but it is undeniable that Rice was on a softball network giving us all a snowjob... something that might sound good.. if you don't actually know the history behind it or think too much about it... you know.. those traits that have been encouraged in the populace in the US for a nice long time by politicians.

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I Just Love...
Posted by: djnoll on Feb 27, 2007 10:27 AM   
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Imagining BushCo with Ms. Rice in attendance watching this and turning several shades of purple and everyone blaming her for once again making this administration look incredibly stupid! Oh, to be a fly on the wall! It has been a well docmunted fact that Rice is nothing more than a token in the Bush administration who acts like a harpy at the gates when anyone wants to get through to this idiot president with the truth. I have a Master's in Public Policy and I understand political science and history. Quite frankly, her analogy is all wrong because the comparison is between Bush and Hitler!

Fact: Hitler, without provocation, invaded and occupied Poland and most of Europe. Bush invaded and occupied Iraq based on lies and without provocation.

Fact: People who did not agree with Hitler in his Administration died. In the BushCo company they are forced to resign or are sent to prison.

Fact: People Hitler decided were enemies of the Aryan Nation disappeared into concentration camps and the front. Here it is secret prisons around the world and Gitmo.

Fact: Hitler suspended the German Constitution and dissolved their Parliament, declaring martial law, after they gave him the right to issue executive orders. Bush has pushed through laws on a weak or complicit Congress that have systematically dismantled Constitutional Rights and has issued executive orders that have violated the rights of citizens of this country.

Fact: Hitler used the Reichstag fire set by one extremist to justify his actions. Bush used 9/11.

Fact: Hitler established a paramilitary force prior to becoming Chancellor of Germany that later became the core for the Gestapo. Bush had Homeland Security set up and hires private mercenary groups.

Fact: Both men believed that they had a Divine Destiny to rule their nations unopposed.

The list goes on. Olbermann, you have again shown what idiots and incompetents were elected to this nation's highest office. Congratulations, and keep up the good work!

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Old Comment on Ms. Rice
Posted by: brainvib on Feb 27, 2007 10:27 AM   
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I heard this several years ago, I'm sure you did too.
How to tell if Ms. Rice is lying?
See if her lips are moving.

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» RE: Old Comment on Ms. Rice Posted by: Fishbone Soldier
» RE: Old Comment on Ms. Rice gap... Posted by: blitzmesser
» Rice gets mad Posted by: kackermann
Go Olbermann!
Posted by: l_m_n on Feb 27, 2007 11:15 AM   
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Olbermann was on fire with that one! He was tickled pink to have been given Rice's outrageous statement to work with, he could hardly keep the grin off his face. Maybe he was smirking about the punch line at the end... "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?"

In Rice's case, the answer is a very loud NO!

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The real question is..........
Posted by: tap17x on Feb 27, 2007 2:22 PM   
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............not whether Saddam was another Hitler, but whether Bush, given the chance, would be another Hitler. Bush already has convincing stand-ins for Goebbels (Rice) and Goering (Cheney). And Gonzalez is a weak substitute for Himmler. Continuing the analogy, Fox "News" tries to fill the role of Julius Streicher, Nazi propagandist.

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Hermann Göring said it best:
Posted by: ErHoff on Feb 27, 2007 7:52 PM   
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Where Rice can only excel in non sense and non sequiturs when it comes to things she has not a grasp, like the Third Reich history, maybe America needs to consider the words of Hermann Göring: "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Terrorism is not the problem the administration and the press want you to think it is.

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Fantastic...thank you Mr. Olberman!
Posted by: blitzmesser on Feb 28, 2007 9:15 AM   
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Great, fantastic, superb! Thank you for pointing out Rice's ignorance and stupidity so clearly.

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Fantastic...thank you Mr. Olbermann! Correction.
Posted by: blitzmesser on Feb 28, 2007 9:23 AM   
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Sorry for the previous message that is missing an "n" in your name.

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Another Wow
Posted by: andrushka on Feb 28, 2007 11:22 AM   
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Terrific. Keith you gave me goose pimples. WE WANT MORE of your sharp-as-scalpel comments, please, you have so much material you can use!

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What A Hoot!
Posted by: %100gayamerican on Feb 28, 2007 12:10 PM   
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Dismal... Pathetic... But VERY funny in a squalid sort of way. I mean, I might as well laugh. I can't walk around with my face buried in my hands all of the time.

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Dr. Rice?
Posted by: daloaders on Feb 28, 2007 8:01 PM   
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I guess Dr. Rice forgot about the way Europe was stabilized after the war.

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