We're fighting them there.. where they weren't before.. so we don't have to fight them here.. where they have to get past all the security we COULD have put in place had we not wasted billions on Iraq and sent so many of our national guard- who are often police and firefighters and other "first-responders"- to serve, be disabled, or die there.

We're fighting them there, because we got tired of fighting them where they were... because that wasn't sexy enough and didn't accomplish all of our goals and justify all our theories about what great military leaders all the chickenhawks and draft dodgers in the white house really are.

We're fighting them there... because we believe they are stupid enough to flock to the area just to fight our military and die... rather than infiltrate a nation with its defenses down or non-existent and attack far softer targets there.

Thanks, W.arcriminal
Thanks, W.orthless
Thanks, W.ingnut
Thanks, W.orst President EVER
.. and your little Rove, too.

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slight misrepresentation

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I agree with the part of what this guys said. But as always, these so called expers are looking at only one side of the story.
US right wingers are livelihood is to have an external enemy. Without an external enemiy, you can not justify the 400 billion budget of the pentagon where part of your country is in a worse situation than the poor neighbourhoods of Indian cities.

The political elite of the US needs to have these guys on the run, so they can justify the money spend on the military, to bring dumb American kids into joining the military and to be able to make even more money by their own no-bid contracts.

That was the main reason they didn't remove Saddam in 1991, because they knew having Saddam in power could save the US economy, billions and more billions of dollars was spent by the stupid Arab nations into buying high-tech US and UK military producs since they were afraid of Saddam. Now, they have to spend billions and billions of dollars on American, British, Australian and Italian security companies to come in and help them "safe-guard" their nation.

This is all about money, no one case for people, American, Iraqis, Afghanis or Arabs. Most of these guys don't give a rats ass about them. So if Al-Qaida suddenly becomes smart, and managed to make a bomb, and finds a way to smuggle it into the US, and blow it up, it will be another boom for the flagg sale and patriotic producs and signing up for the military to go and "kick some ass".

/Farhad

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"This administration is scared of anything that moves."

Funny, and I thought all of this muscle-flexing and chest-beating we've been doing abroad was to prove that we're not scared of anything.

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What's this I see? Oh, it's Keith Olbermann giving us a dose of Fox-ish fear-mongering.

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People forget that a non-state actor like Al Qaeda doesn't need to develop nukes on their own (a virtual impossibility). They just have to buy nuclear suitcases on the black market and hire unemployed Russian scientists to maintain them.

Read maverick journalist Paul Williams ("Osama's Revenge," "The Al Qaeda Connection"). If you need someone more respectable, try Harvard's Graham Allison ("Nuclear Terrorism") for more. (The latter's articles can be found on the Web too.)

Bitter pill to swallow, no doubt about it.

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It is amazing to me how many former BushCo employees seem to have found a voice over the last few years. These are the guys who could not or would not speak truth to Power or become whistleblowers while getting a paycheck, but now come forward? Well, better late than never. In a way it is only slightly reassuring that what I have been saying for over 6 years now to anyone who wasted their time listening to me, is now being said by people who had more access to information than I did. At least I do not feel like quite the Cassandra any longer, but it still does not really change a thing.

Unless the American people stand up and say Enough to that Nazi Maniac in the White House and his handlers, this is not only likely to happen, it is just a question of how soon and where. (My guess: the time of the Democratic National convention in that city) We have allowed our borders to remain open and unprotected sufficiently so that anyone can cross them. The sad fact is that the people who might deliver such a device are probably already here and virtually invisible. They will wait until they know which way the political wind is blowing here in late 2008 before they act, I suspect, so that not only does Al Quaeda make its point, but they can keep Bush in power as a focal point to the Muslims who follow their fanatical teachings of jihad.

We need our generals and our admirals and those who know the truth now to speak out and the American people need them to step up and act to stop this madness. No American wants to fight another citizen, but it will soon be too late to prevent such a revolution, and if we do not change the path now, we will lose a large city to nuclear disaster, large sections of this nation to nuclear fallout, and our freedom to military insanity led by the madman now in office, because that is what serves both Bin Laden and Bush well.

This man is no fool, and if he is ignored like Cassandra, our Troy will fall. Not to a Trojan Horse, but to a suitcase carried by a terrorist under the guise of an illegal immigrant. Now do you understand why illegal immigration enforcement is so important!?!

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CIA man Scheuer has said some VERY interesting things over the years.

He made the case for a bin laden / saddam link in his book Imperial Hubris (before the illegal invasion of Iraq by Bush -- WHEN IT MATTERED).

Then, he was brought back into CIA, looked at 20,000 documents to find that link -- and changed his mind. He came up with no link at all.

He admits this however. This is from Scheuer's wikipedia page.

Scheuer has said that Clinton had 10 clear "opportunities" to kill or capture bin Laden, but Clinton and Richard Clarke and Sandy Berger would never give approval (probably true).

Scheuer has also said that Bush had NO chance to kill bin Laden before 9-11, which is FALSE:

20. March 7, 2001: "The Russian Permanent Mission at the United Nations secretly submits “an unprecedentedly detailed report” to the UN Security Council about bin Laden, his whereabouts, details of his al-Qaeda network, Afghan drug running, and Taliban connections to Pakistan and the ISI. The report provides “a listing of all bin Laden’s bases, his government contacts and foreign advisers,” and enough information to potentially locate and kill him. It is said to contain an “astonishing degree of information.” The US fails to use the information in any noticable manner. Alex Standish, the editor of the highly respected Jane’s Intelligence Review, concludes that the attacks of 9/11 were less of an American intelligence failure than the result of “a political decision not to act against bin Laden.” [Jane's Intelligence Review, 10/5/2001; Times of India, 10/8/2001]

Scheuer clearly wants more war and more killing vis a vis the "war on terror." But, he's not a reliable source of information. "Once CIA, always CIA."

The other night on the BBC hit piece, Scheuer said of 9/11:

"You can't have an intelligence failure when you have information and you refuse to act on it, and that's what Americans should understand."

He then tries to make excuses for WHY they "refuse" to act on it. These excuses are hollow. Given the political decisions to back off and not go after bin Laden that he himself has documented, this REFUSAL IS KEY EVIDENCE. This is high treason, waging war against the American people by proxy forces who are -- at the least -- allowed to follow through on terroirst attacks.

Every American should be screaming for impeachment and REAL investigation of 9-11.

Fat, lazy apathetic fucks.


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http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

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