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The Real Iraq by UK's Channel 4 [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:38 AM on February 19, 2007.


48 Minute doc explores the truth on the ground...

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Posted by: tke919 on Feb 19, 2007 9:38 AM   
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Wrong thread. I'm a moron -- maybe a mod can delete this one and the other one above it.

**crawls back under rock**

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Small correction
Posted by: moflard on Feb 19, 2007 10:28 AM   
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The reporter is Jon Snow from Channel 4, not the BBC.

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We're so disconnected from the war in Iraq because...
Posted by: lessbread on Feb 19, 2007 6:32 PM   
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... the corporate news media wants it that way.

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Propoganda
Posted by: Melvin on Feb 19, 2007 9:59 PM   
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Last weekend I listened to a programme on Canadian radio; the CBC. The programme was about "spin" by the media.
The top & bottom of it was that most of the media have NO training in dealing with the military but the military is well versed in the wants of the media. To put it mildly; the media ; particularly the "embeded" ones are suckers.They are fed & accept a bunch of military propoganda !!

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» RE: Propoganda Posted by: andrewstromotich
Managing the message
Posted by: algodees on Feb 19, 2007 11:08 PM   
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seems to be the main job of the military press liasons. If the people knew all that was happening in any war they would stop their leaders from pursuing such policies. Although it seems that we have to take any reporting with a grain of salt the bloggers and other amateur journalists in Iraq are doing a great service for all of us. Let's hope they can keep up the good work.

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America chooses to be as the 3 monkeys - deaf - dumb - blind
Posted by: pfm on Feb 20, 2007 9:04 AM   
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this video should be shown on every TV channel in America, in every school, in every movie theater, uncut, unedited.........American mass media is own, control manipulated by "corporate" owners beholding to GWB and his administration .... who do not want any form of truth to become known by the "sheep" they lead. it is a tragedy. and "we" - that's you and me are to blame. only when "we" choose to demand only the truth and full disclosure from all politicians will the tide change.

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WHY ARE WE SO DISCONNECTED
Posted by: andrewstromotich on Feb 20, 2007 10:45 AM   
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simple, because we are supposed to be. noone seems to want to allow the iraqis to tell their own story: this is the hidden iraq.
when i was in london to film a committee meeting at the house of commons about the realities of occupation in iraq, i met up with amn iraqi journalist who was working with me on my iraqivoice.tv project. she is a well connected journalist who has travelled to many hot zones in west iraq (was in both sieges of falluja for example), and had some meetings with channel 4 about doing some work. they DEMANDED that she use the term INSURGENT to describe fighters amongst other things, and the relationship broke down...
noone wants to allow the iraqis to tell their own story. I had 4 cameras in iraq in the hands of iraqis for the purposes of telling their own stories, but were any outlets interested in showing what was being produced? not one. it nearly bankrupted me and i had to stop not becuase of anything other than no-one wanted to air it (not even alternet).
I now have a firend who is going back to iraq to get his wife. the story is very typical of how even a small detail can destroy the life of a refugee (she cannot leave because her passport starts with a G and not an A, and the canadian gov't will only take A passports, so he must go to bagdad to change her passport as her family is too scared to send her to bagdad). No one wants to show it or hear about it. They only want stories narrated by white westerners. that is why we have no idea about the real story and never will until we allow them to tell their own stories.
if you are interested, these are links to stories i helped my iraqi friends create:
radio:
http://www.dropframe.ca/radio/051006.mp3
http://www.dropframe.ca/radio/051006pt2.mp3
http://www.dropframe.ca/radio/060906.mp3
video:
http://www.dropframe.ca/movies/rana_wpf.html
http://www.dropframe.ca/movies/nermin_wpf.html
http://www.dropframe.ca/video/051006.html

http://www.dropframe.ca/movies/whisperings_intro.html

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It's There for anyone to see.
Posted by: ronr on Feb 20, 2007 2:29 PM   
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Like in Viet-Nam, the US forces "control" precisely the ground they are standing on and nothing else. And as in Viet-Nam, everyone native to Iraq is "the enemy"; people to be regarded with fear and suspicion. Every door broken down by the soldiers' search and destroy missions creates a new group of lifelong enemies. The few Iraquis inside the Green Zone who are paid by and work for the Americans are considered traitors to their own people.

In the meantime, thousand of pounds of $100 dollar bills, shipped in on pallets to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq, have been "lost". Thousands upon thousand of lives have been destroyed, and the US is not an inch closer to "victory" in Iraq than when the war was begun. Halliburton, Lockheed-Martin, General Electric, CACI et. al are making a fortune. The bills will come in later, long after GW Bush has retired from the presidency in comfort, just as he did after running all his gift companies obtained from his Daddy into the ground before becoming Gov. of Texas. No wonder he has a permanent smirk on his face.

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» RE: It's There for anyone to see. Posted by: andrewstromotich