He belongs on Fox(Faux)"News" because nothing he says is of any value or validity.

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would that be criticised? Yet, oddly, its 'ok' for another race to join a church dedicated to 'one race' and excludes others? Wasn't a big criticism of the Mormons based on the fact that, until the 70's, they considered blacks as animals and would not allow them to join? Remember the whole controversy over the racist "Christian Identity" movement? Remember the ongoing controversy of certain Jewish sects that seem to have racist overtones. Remember the criticism of certain militant sects of Islam that consider everyone else infidels and kaffirs? Yet, its ok for Barack Hussiem Obama, or any black, to join an equally racist church?

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god help us.

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OMG!!!! OMG!!!! OMG!!!!

What about the "Army" in "Salvation Army?!!?"

Let's not forget to get hysterical about that.

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I'm really sick of butheads who, resenting all things 60s, turn around and claim that now, thanks to civil rights, all is equal. So, if it doesn't present a suitable patina of assimilation, any attempt by people of color to do for themselves can be fairly treated as an affront to sensible whiteness.

Carlson's comments are not clever observation tinged with ironic rhetoric. They're just stupid.

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You may remember this representative from MN from the lingering hand on shoulder episode after the SOTU or her "hot for god" statements. She was also featured by that preacher, Mac Hammond, with the stunt plane from his church.

Well Michelle Bachman's church is Wisconsin Evangelic Lutheran Synod (WELS). WELS is the most conservative on role of women in the church of the Lutheran faiths in the US with ECLA most liberal and Missouri Synod conservative but not as much as WELS.

Now from the WELS doctrinal statements we have this statement on the antichrist:

Luther left no doubt where he stood concerning the Papacy when he wrote, “This teaching [of the supremacy of the pope] shows forcefully that the Pope is the very Antichrist, who has exalted himself above, and opposed himself against Christ, because he will not permit Christians to be saved without his power, which, nevertheless, is nothing, and is neither ordained nor commanded by God. This is, properly speaking, to exalt himself above all that is called God. . . . The Pope, however, prohibits this faith, saying that to be saved a person must obey him” (Smalcald Articles, II, IV, 10-12)

Later on they write:

It was in this setting, then, that the "Statement on the Antichrist" was drafted. The Joint Doctrinal Committees of the Synodical Conference adopted this statement on October 15, 1958, and reported this to the Lutheran Synodical Conference Convention in 1960. The "Statement on the Antichrist" was adopted by the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod at its convention in Saginaw, Michigan, in 1959, without a dissenting vote. The Missouri Synod, however, never formally adopted it.

In conclusion, we quote a statement from an essay written in 1957 which puts this doctrine into proper perspective:


This teaching that the Papacy is the Antichrist is not a fundamental article of faith. . . . It is not an article on which saving faith rests, with which Christianity stands or falls. We cannot and do not deny the Christianity of a person who cannot see the truth that the Pope is the Antichrist.

Yet it is an important article and should not be side-stepped or slighted. It is clearly revealed in the divine word, and there is nothing needless and useless in the Bible; God wants us to know about the Antichrist. . . . This article is clearly expressed in the Lutheran Confessions; whoever denies it does not stand in one faith with his fathers; he is not a confessional Lutheran. A Lutheran preacher should know, believe, and teach this article or frankly confess that he no longer subscribes to the Confessions of the Lutheran Church. If we value the saving doctrine of the vicarious atonement through the blood of Jesus Christ, the God-man, in these latter days of the world, we shall do well to keep the facts concerning the Antichrist well in mind (“The Scriptural Doctrine of the Antichrist,” Our Great Heritage, Vol. 3, pp. 601,602).

So maybe Tucker should go after the anti Catholic Repbulican Congresswoman from the 6th District of Minnesota too!

I don't think she is anti-Catholic, but her church's doctrine seems to be. She is clearly a nutty lady, you can't live in MN and not know this (fortunately I have a decent Muslim as my Rep.).

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Clearly Tucker is one of those christian bigots who does not notice the beam which is in his own eye.
With Tsuckers like that, how will people ever be able to understand that Jaweh, Jehovah and Allah are the same God and how are we able to avoid stupid wars like the one we are engaged in today?
I guess that Abu-al-Ala al-Marri, Syrian philosopher/poet from the 10th century was right after all when he said; The people of the world can be divided into two kinds: One with brains who hold no religion, The other with religion and no brain.
Pake Beer

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Considering Obama has only just announced his candidacy and there are many obstacles in his path before a nomination let alone a Presidency it's indicative how alarmed the GOP mouthpieces are about their own party's lack of suitable candidate(s) that the rumour mill is grinding out "secret Islamist", "black /white flip-flopper" "suspicious middle name" BS against him.

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I am a member of the United Church of Christ and I declare Tucker Carlson a damned liar.

The UCC is part of the Congregationalist Church, the oldest organized church in the U.S. It ordained the first woman minister in U.S. history and is the best example of an inclusive, tolerant, loving, caring, mission-oriented, and peace-loving church. We think of ourselves as liberals for the most part and believe that the pursuit of peace is the best policy both here at home and in the wider world.

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How can that guy be allowed to have a show? This is obnoxious. If he has nothing intelligent to say, he should shut up or better be shut up.

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Look folks, this is merely an early salvo fired at Obama by Karl Rove's operatives in the corporate-controlled media. If this upsets you, you're in for a long campaign, as Rove undoubtedly has a laundry list of smears, lies and deceptions that will be thrown at the wall in the hope that something will eventually stick.

Good thing the mainstream media is so "liberal", huh?

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If I had not heard this from Tucker Carlton's own lips and said in apparent seriousness, I'd have thought it a crude misquote. When a far right public figure has to resort to this kind of nonsensical charge, you can be sure he can't find anything real to sink his teeth into.

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In spite of his "charisma," Obama's just too centrist to elicit genuine passion in the thinking voter.

However, the article about him in the latest Rolling Stone makes me look at him in a slightly more positive light. It's the surprising, politics-be-damned story of his relationship to his church.

Excerpt:
"Obama writes in his autobiography that on the day he chose this church, he felt the spirit of black memory and history moving through Wright [his church's minister], and 'felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams.'"

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....is that the chances are excellent Tucker will continue to rant and rave about the UCC, which walks the walk and talks the talk in terms of the teachings of Jesus, but I have never, ever heard any rant from him about what Christian fundamentalist leaders teach their congregations. Long story extremely short, we can begin with the image of God as a testosterone-laden 'man' in the cosmos and end with the absolutist belief in fundamentalist is, as Mary Daly stated I think in reference to Catholicism: "If God is man, then man is God".

That is the beginning and end of their theology and all else flows from it. And folks, that is soooooo evident today in every single policy in this administration.

When facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross..............Sinclair Lewis

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..and it's time for the left majority to start screaming at the media about such crap. He always has disparaging remarks everytime he mentions Democratics, and from the tone of his voice, you'd think the word itself was profanity. He has been an unapolagetic shill for the right wing every since he was given a platform to vent his smart-ass frat boy smears. Call, write, e-mail every time you hear crap like that from any pundit who has a soap-box to spread their lies.

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Tucker Carlson belongs to The Falls Church, a schismatic Episcopal congregation that has just left the Episcopal Church of the USA and allied itself with the Anglican Church of Nigeria. The issue? The homophobes and misogynists of The Falls Church can't abide the ordination of either Gene Robinson (an openly gay male) as Bishop of New Hampshire or Katherine Jefforts Story (a female) as the Presiding Bishop of ECUSA. Toss another stone, Tucker (but duck as you aim ain't that great).

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Tucker Carlson obviously doesn't know what the HELL he talks about. This is on top of the idea that Obama is an Al Queda agent. The right wing has no intellectual ammunition to speak of, so they go for the slanderous, "Swift Boat" approach.

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Tucker Carlson and all the rest of boys wanting to be man.... should step aside and let those with class take the chair. He is such a dep-s--t. A spoiled little boy .... shouldn't his voice be changing soon. His attitude reflects all that of the Bush administration.... that we have had to endure for the last six years. He is part of that deceased politics that we must, and will, do away with. The Fox family would love him!... and to think that PBS was forced (by boy Bush) to make room for him.... DAMN CORUPT POLITICS!!!!!!

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Why does anyone give a crap about Tucker Carlson? He reminds me of a little high school nerd hanger-on who tries to be cool, but who will never get laid. Joseph Bologna's character in "My Favorite Year" said it well: "you little Jiminy Cricket, pest bastard." Except the guy who played the pest bastard in that movie was a lot more interesting – hell, when it comes to Carlson, ANYBODY would be more interesting. I do miss the only thing, though, that made Fu...uh...Tucker slightly worth watching: his bow tie. I was always waiting for it to suddenly start spinning. Now, the only things he spins are lies.

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when a white Republican man - the most racist, sexist, elitist group in the country - lectures a minority about being "Christian enough?" It never ceases to amaze me that Tucker and his ilk can go on TV and lie with a straight face. To be so venal that you'll trade your integrity for money and attention, and yet a major network pays that idiot to tell his lies. You'd almost think the network was owned by white Republican men... oh, wait...

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Listening to Tucker Carlson about theology is like listening to George Bush about leadership. Carlson is fortunate indeed that there is no criminal penalty for impersonating intelligent life

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Tucker Carlson, spoiled brat rich kid of Richard Carlson, whose best accomplishment to date is his dead-on impersonation of Maxwell Smart ( The Late Don Adams ); both Smart's voice and certainly his IQ! He works for MSNBC which is appropriately also the home of fellow boy sopranos. Chris Matthews and Pat Buchanan. BTW, has anybody else noticed Pat and Bay Buchanan never appear together? I've long suspected Bay is Pat's cross-dresser alter ego . They certainly look alike!

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...a Christian...then he would be more objective and I could vote for him...I am sorry Tucker's report is wrong...again...surprise!

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for pointing this out, but oh well, I know I'm not and it's central to this issue- Barrack Obama is not even "black".

I'll write in narrow-minded illogical American PC racialist terms so people who have never experienced "racial" conceptions outside of America can follow.

His mother is "white", so he's genetically half "white", whatever that means. He was raised by his "white" mother and her family (in Kansas!), so it's very safe to assume that he is culturally mostly "white".
Only in America are conceptions of "race" so illogical and emotion-laden that they can be distorted to this level of bizarreness without question. Nicole Ritchie claiming to be black is more believable.
Before anyone whips out the racist card, let me point out that you don't know my "racial" pedigree and secondly, imagine how hard it would be for someone who looks more white than black and who was even raised by black parents to claim blackness (e.g Nicole Rithchie) (I'm tired of putting the quote marks the next to almost meaningless race terms).

I came back to America after a good amount of world travel off the beaten path and when I did, the ideas of what race is here looked so bizarre to me that I can hardly believe it's for real.

I suggest spending some time in Brazil and trying to talk to people with your extremely limited provincial ideas of "black" and "white". It'll make your head spin.

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DISCLAIMER:
It is not my intent to attack anyone or post off-topic material here. I am teaching and sharing of my black culture regardless of how it is interpreted.. However, I feel that I should be able

to support my argument in this case to stress the reasoning for Tucker Carlson's aledged attack on

Barack Obama's church creed. This is a little out of the ordinary theme of things literally, but so is

Black culture in a seemingly free society. I am providing evidence to support my comment that

Tucker Carlson has followed the normal tradition in America of "Minimizing"(c) and/or stealing anything of substance from black origins. He has only followed suit in his attack on Barack Obama's church's "Black Values System."

This Below is a classic example taken from my own experience with 'Yahoo Answers" furnished only as evidence that has succeeded in setting a prescedence:

Subject: What was the specific violation that warranted this sanction?
To: answers-abuse@cc.yahoo-inc.com

Yahoo! Answers Team

Was my violation the inadvertent use of an email address to share lengthy statistical data in favor of

my argument, or other? If so, please accept my sincere apology? God Bless!

Sincerely,

-identity obscured (geo_spacial (outreachmin))

===incld message below
Hello geo_spacial (outreachmin)
You have posted content to Yahoo! Answers in violation of our Community Guidelines. As a result,

your content has been deleted.
Question: Why is it that the social injustices done to "American" blacks is most often "Minimized" in any discussion?
Question Details: Racial Biases At The Canadian Border Directed At Blacks? In my opinion and scientific research the Yahoo Queried Best Answer chosen for my original question treads along the following given path: As a social science researcher of human geography, more specific: The Social Injustices In U.S.A. To Descendants of the Atlantic Middle-Passage Campaign for Economic Benefit to Majority White European Benefactors, I've coined the word "MINIMIZED." This is what is said and done whenever the subject of social injustices to "American" blacks is brought to the forefront of any discussion and/or conversation. If you care to know what the statistical reasoning is for such audacious behavior is, please feel free to IM me. wpatters@x.xxxxxxxxxx.edu

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