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Media skeptical of Bush Admin lying about Iran [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:10 AM on February 6, 2007.


Fool the press once, shame on you... fool them twice...
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It's 4 years and a day since Colin Powell gave his "damning" and almost entirely false speech to the UN that put the final nail in the coffin of what is now over 3,000 American soldiers and over a half million Iraqis.

The press lapped it up, coming as it did from the administration's most skeptical cabinet-member and resident "centrist."

As Iraq devolves into a chaos (the long-awaited 2007 National Intelligence Estimate uses the term "Civil War" to describe parts of Iraq) and the administration marches toward war on Iran, the press has yawned and stretched and tried to come to life. To paraphrase Dolly Parton.

The following is the transcript of the video to the right, featuring two reporters tired of being jerked around by a duplicitous White House. They simply don't trust them. No pumping fists here... just a "finally you're doing your job."

Hat tip to Editor & Publisher for finding this exchange.

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Q Steve, in 2002 and 2003, in the run-up to the Iraq war, the administration made statements that were obviously not borne by facts subsequently. And it later came out that caveats from the intelligence community, caveats from Energy Department analysts, those were left out of public statements of Vice President Cheney, the President, others in the administration. Now when it comes to Iran, you've been saying for months that Iran is a key driver of violence in Iraq. You've said there is evidence tying Iran to attacks in Iraq. You've said that you'd make that evidence public. That supposed to be made public on the 31st.

MR. HADLEY: Right.

Q It wasn't.

MR. HADLEY: That's correct.

Q Now you have this report saying it contributes in some way, so does Syria, so do other factors, but it is not, in and of itself, causing the violence, nor would the violence stop if Iranian influence stopped.

MR. HADLEY: I didn't read it that way...

Q You see it on the second --

MR. HADLEY: "Iraq's neighbors influence and are influenced by events within Iraq. But the involvement of these outside -- is not likely to be a major driver of violence or the prospect for stability because of the self-sustaining character of Iraq's internal sectarian dynamics."

We need to get control of that. Now, to the extent Iraqi support -- sorry, Iranian support is going to extremist groups that are participating in that sectarian violence, it is obviously a factor. And as we talked about it more broadly, they are, of course, a disruptive factor in the region.

The reason we put the intelligence briefing on hold was really two reasons. One, we thought we'd better get the NIE out so people could see the full context, which you now can. And secondly, quite frankly, we want to make sure that if we put out intelligence, the intelligence community and MNFI can stand behind it, because we are sensitive to try and put out the facts as accurately as we can.

Q When will that be, that briefing?

MR. HADLEY: When this process gets done, the briefing will be -- will come out.I don't think there's a timetable on this point since it's slipped a couple times. We want to get the work done so that we can get people a firm date and that we won't have to change.

Q Even though it was already scheduled and officials in Baghdad gave a date, they gave a time, and in some cases, they gave a place?

MR. HADLEY: Correct.

Q And now it's been pushed back. Can we conclude anything from that other than people looked at the intelligence that was set to offered and said, this is not good enough?

MR. HADLEY: No, I wouldn't --

Q Does that mean there was a willingness to overstate it?

MR. HADLEY: The truth is, quite frankly, we thought the briefing overstated. And we sent it back to get it narrowed and focused on the facts. And that's not a criticism of anybody. It was, in some sense, an attempt to do and address some of the issues in the NIE in a briefing on intelligence of Iranian activity in Iraq. And we thought, hey, why are we doing this? Let's get the NIE out, the coordinated intelligence judgment of the intelligence community. And then with that as context, get a briefing that is focused on and one that we're confident everyone can stand behind.

Q Mr. Hadley, given the track record on weapons of mass destruction, and recent events that have alleged that intelligence has been cherry-picked and pulled selectively, how can the public be assured that intelligence is driving the policy and not the other way around, that it's being tailored to what the President and the Vice President want the policy to be?

MR. HADLEY: By putting out things like this, the coordinated judgment of the intelligence community, so you can see the intelligence on which the policy was based.

Q How can we be assured that this wasn't written for that purpose?

MR. HADLEY: Well, you can talk to the intelligence community. This came from the NIC -- the National Intelligence Council. And it came out of that process. It was not a result of a policy process. It was a result of the intelligence process. And there was no effort to put a policy spin on that by the White House. This is a thing we got roughly a day or two before you.

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Fool them TWICE???
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 6, 2007 8:37 AM   
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The media has been "fooled" (read: lapping up the lies the Bush admin spews without EVER calling them on them or letting their viewers no clearly that these things are simply not true) many many times... not twice... and they are still being "fooled" over and over.

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» RE: Fool them TWICE??? Posted by: willymack
I can not believe this!
Posted by: farhada on Feb 6, 2007 8:48 AM   
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The American reporters are growing balls? They actually dare to ask questions about "issues" rather than BS comments?

This is unbelievable, maybe the pressure from people finally made them realize that the pieces hanging between their leggs was something usefull!

Just a shame that 100s of thousands of Iraqi have lost their lives before they dare to question the lies and half-truths of this criminal gang,
/Farhad Abdolian
My Blog

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» RE: I can not believe this! Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver
joysea
Posted by: joysea on Feb 6, 2007 9:02 AM   
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I cannot see any reason we could/should believe anything the Bush dministration is saying now. Even though it's possible that they are telling the truth this time, I've already lost trust in them all. War in general makes no sense to me anymore.

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I can only find one network to trust anymore
Posted by: Ellie1 on Feb 6, 2007 9:07 AM   
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I used to trust National Public Radio, until I heard Juan Williams interviewing Bush on that station. Talk about an a-- kisser. It was disgraceful, and I have sent several e-mails to NPR informing them that their present attitude will certainly affect my pledge.

Th only station I now trust is Air America Radio, which thank heavens will stay on the air.

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» PACIFICA radio Posted by: fifthworld
The truth about the War in Iraq
Posted by: motamanx on Feb 6, 2007 9:09 AM   
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The truth about the War in Iraq is that we needed to secure the leases to their oil. All else is baloney. Unfortunately, it is baloney that has been eaten by the press all these years and regurgitated as "policy."

The war is about oil. There is no other way to put it. Shame on the press for not asking more questions of this administration which has a malign intent, and which steadfastly refuses to speak the truth.

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Filling the Vacuum
Posted by: ccluelessfl60 on Feb 6, 2007 9:14 AM   
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If this were a seven year old responding to the question " did you break the window?" we would all know he did it. If you are lying you have to hum and haw a lot which is what Hadley is doing. A real no brain er. Of course Iran is at least selling arms to Iraq insurgents. We gave them the go ahead by letting this crap drag on without a plan. Iran is filling the vacuum we left.

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NPR is merely a shadow of its once-bold self
Posted by: Blueprelude on Feb 6, 2007 9:52 AM   
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I agree with Ellie1. I stopped listening to NPR during the Iraq war because it seemed its drive-time shows were just as blindered in its reporting as the normal media. The substance-starved reports were just longer form! NPR also insisted in using conservative think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation most of the time for its talking head expertise on an issue. So much for balance! NPR now stands for National Privileged Radio.

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» NPR was once bold? Posted by: lessbread
Bush and Cheney...
Posted by: bob t on Feb 6, 2007 9:58 AM   
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... have been lying from the beginning and everything they have said since has been nothing more than endless lying. Bush and Cheney should be executed for TREASON against America. Wow that will bring the FBI knocking on my door or 'tossing' my house while I'm out. And all their BS about the liberal media is more lies because the media is totally controlled by Republicans who have been threatened by Bush/Cheney and rewarded by them and Michael Powell at the FCC by allowing ever more media consolidation if they keep repeating the Bush/Cheney mantra du jour. Finally just maybe the reporters are beginning to question... Reporters let loose will question everything but they have been muzzled by their bosses who are greedy for ever more media consolidation. When the rethugs are out of power 'we the people' have to DEMAND the MSM monopoly be broken up. Also it would be great if Rupert Murdoch were stripped of his paid for citizenship and sent back to Australia where he will be welcomed by his good friend and the enemy of american democracy, John Howard.

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Well, you can talk to the intelligence community.
Posted by: lessbread on Feb 6, 2007 1:11 PM   
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Would that be the intelligence community hand picked by Dick Cheney? Intelligence Community to Congress: “The dog ate my national intelligence estimate” Back in July, I reported that, in spite of pressure from CIA analysts, intelligence czar John Negroponte was blocking a new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq.

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Hadley acts and looks like a BushClone
Posted by: blitzmesser on Feb 6, 2007 2:15 PM   
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His command of language is similar to that of Bush. He hesitates, simplifies, and does not know how to answer. He is on the defensive because he knows he is selling BS.
When he shows the paper as evidence of the validity of the report, which no one of the press has seen, the reporter should have asked to have a look at it.

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Feb 6, 2007 2:23 PM   
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NPR is just like most of PBS - corporate flacks!! The "P" is no longer for Public - it's "P as in "PR." Thank the little Jewish carpenter for Air America!!

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Simple question
Posted by: herbal on Feb 7, 2007 8:26 AM   
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The obvious question that the last question approaches is this: Did this claim about Iran involvement originate as an hypothesis; then the intelligence agencies were asked to substantiate that claim?

Obviously in the Bush Administration, intelligence is not used to influence policy but simply to spin the policy generated by the underlying Fascist philosophy.

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hasdashito
Posted by: hadashito on Feb 7, 2007 8:28 AM   
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Fool the press once, shame on you. Fool them the second time, shame on them. Fool them the third time, shame on them. Fool them the fourth time, shame on them. Fool them the fifth time, shame on them. Foool them the sixth time, shame on them. Fool them the - - oh, well, forget it - - it's become evident, all along, that someone has been fooling shameless fools.

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BRAVO TO THE "PRESS"
Posted by: pfm on Feb 7, 2007 8:47 AM   
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I commend the "press" for finally beginning to ask some of the myriad of "hard" questions of the Bush Administration. Keep it up, you have a long way to go to regain my respect, but I do salute the initial baby steps you are taking.

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Gary
Posted by: garyjminter on Feb 7, 2007 12:05 PM   
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Sadly, there are so many mistakes, so many selfish, dishonest, short-sighted decisions that have been made for so many decades....

It is morally wrong, and also strategically wrong, to invade a nation to seize its resources. It's that simple. By doing so, we have become international gangsters, robbers, pirates....

The USA is continuing the British Empire's colonialist policies, which worked well for several hundred years, partly because the British, like the Romans, usually left their "colonies" alone in most ways, and often preferred to use diplomacy, trade, and barter as incentives, rather than military force. Both the Romans and the British were rather "benign" imperialists, unlike the Spanish and the French and the Nazi Germans and Imperial Japanese, so their empires lasted much longer and were more stable....they at least had "consent of the governed", at least a large part of the upper-class, educated, "governed."

I agree we should do everything possible to develop energy sources other than oil, including nuclear power, ethanol, hydrogen, etc....probably we should let gasoline prices go up to market levels, so those who choose to drive gas-gusslers can pay the price for their choice! If gas were 5$ per gallon, there wouldn't be so many SUVs and Hummer stretch limos cruising all over the USA!

In my opinion, it is not right to kill people to get cheaper oil and natural gas.

Gary

Gary James Minter
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scuse me
Posted by: Musk on Feb 7, 2007 9:45 PM   
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I just watched Hadley and then I threw up a little in my mouth.

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» RE: scuse me Posted by: robdashu
Gary J Minter
Posted by: garyjminter on Feb 8, 2007 12:50 PM   
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It is too easy to let the major media off the hook by saying they were "mislead" by the faulty intelligence of Tony Blair, George Bush, Condi Rice, and others....

If many of us who don't have the privilege of being a political, government, or media insider, of having friends in the CIA, or MI5, or other "intelligence" agencies, could easily know that the illegal US-British invasion of Iraq was not only a mistake, but a lie and a sham, why couldn't the brilliant reporters and editors of the New York Times, Washington Post, London Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX (perhaps I shouldn't use the word "brilliant" so often!), figure this out?

They are not that stupid. They were subjected to pressure from their corporate bosses to support Bush, to be "patriotic,", to support Israel and US oil companies at all costs....

In some ways, the corporate-owned news media are a bigger problem than the politicians, who come and go like the wind...
we can vote for a new President and a new Congress, but how do we get fair-minded, honest, and objective owners, editors, and reporters in our news media?

The US news media have consistently failed to give a fair shake to third and fourth-party "alternative" voices like Ralph Nader and the Libertarians and Greens, even right-wingers like Pat Buchanan and eccentric billionaires like Ross Perot (who was right about many things, especially the "giant sucking sound" of American jobs being lost to Mexico, China, India, and other developing nations)

Ralph Nader is not crazy, Ross Perot may be a little eccentric but at least he is basically honest and patriotic, Pat Buchanan, though I disagree with some of his racist panderings, is a brilliant and basically sincere man who told the truth as he saw it....and us poor Libertarians, and the Greens, never get any press coverage at all!

I distrust the leadership of both the Republican and Democratic parties, because they are almost totally corrupted and in the pockets of big money, whether it's the oil companies and defense contractors, the pharmaceutical industry, the trial lawyers, the AMA, the AHA....choose your poison!

These groups have a right to express their views, too, and they are not all evil people trying to steal our birthright...but they are basically very selfish, and too powerful, special-interest groups, and the politicians are too weak, too gullible, too naive, too greedy, too power-hungry, too pathetic to stand up to them.

That's why we need an honest, independent news media...but we don't have it in the USA any more, if indeed we ever did...

Gary

Gary James Minter
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www.healthchina.org

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