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Ralph Nader, An Unreasonable Man

Posted by Deanna Zandt at 7:24 AM on February 1, 2007.


Deanna Zandt: A new documentary gets down to the bone on the life and times of America's consumer advocate...
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Mention Ralph's name in any variety of progressive circles and you'll often get an earful about the 2000 elections. You'll hear about how, sure, the person you're talking to voted for him, but somehow, Nader is effectively responsible for the war and every other sorry state the country is in, because he spoiled the election. Forty years of activism doesn't come up so much in that conversation, does it?

A new documentary aims to shed some light on a man who has managed to be vilified from just about every political angle: An Unreasonable Man premiered in New York City last night. Three sold-out showings on opening night must mean something... people must be curious to get a glimpse at the what's behind the curtains of the crusader.

The audience gets more than a glimpse, for sure. Starting out with Election 2000 rants from people who seem rather, er, unreasonably upset still, the film moves quickly into the history of the modern consumer movement. What's shocking about watching that history, though, is that it's incredibly funny (find out which automaker hired women to try and seduce Ralph into scandalous affairs), and an excellent reminder that, as Mark Green notes towards the end of the film, little of the man's life is about ego, as he is so often criticized now. Plus, journalist James Ridgeway often steals the show with his very candid political commentary.

I spoke with Nader briefly after the film, and asked him if he'd ever experienced burnout from all the activism and attacks he's endured. "Burn-what?" he said, looking at me quizzically. And he wasn't being funny, either. "Burnout," I laughed. "How do you deal with it?"

"Oh, burnout," he said. "No, I've never had it. I mean, what's the alternative to activism? Surrender. That's not an option, you know?"

Deni Frand, former director of People for the American Way New York, noted after the film that one of the most crucial points of the film for her was to see where Nader comes from-- how his family is, and the community he grew up in. "And to watch the collapse of the Democrats in the 1980s-- people forget that twenty-year block of time, and just how sad it was," she said. It certainly paints a poignant picture when you see a large room full of Democratic candidates, in their early-80s garb, courting hundreds of potential corporate donors in a feeding frenzy to "catch up" to the Republicans.

If there's anything to criticize about the film, it's the lack of young voices throughout the film-- organizer Jason Kafoury is the only person under 40 to appear (besides some anti-Nader activists that have a few words here and there). It would have been fantastic to see how Nader's populist message is affecting youth activism and culture, and the influence that he's had. At the end Q&A session after the screening, he did offer advice to younger activists: Every town in America has councils and committees where you can get involved. Go and be part of it, and see what you're made of.

As for the 2000 elections-- that's better left to the film. All angles are pursued as to Ralph's influence on the election, and the viewer is left to make their own decision on how it all fell out. I certainly came away with the feeling that he didn't deserve what the Democrats did to him, smearing him for their crappy campaign and Republican-lite candidate. Particularly intriguing to watch, too, were the celebrities who withdrew their support from him.

All-in-all, it's a film that accomplishes quite a bit-- documenting the history of the consumer advocacy movement, providing insight to the character and caricature of Ralph Nader, and above all, it lets us each answer the question it poses: How do you define a legacy?

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Posted by: Russ Wellen on Feb 1, 2007 7:46 AM   
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I still remember what a sensation Ralph Nader made when he came out with problems about the Corvairs in Unsafe at Any Speed.

How far he's fallen in the eyes of the public, now that whistleblowers are seen as obstacles to both economic progress and national security.

People who blame 2000 on Nader forget how unpalatable a candidate Gore was at the time. I would have voted for him like I did Kerry in 2004, but my stomach wouldn't let me.

Of course, since then, Gore has become a hero to progressives. Nader deserves at least as much.

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» Give Me A Freakin Break! Posted by: neptune
If only Gore hadn't ruined it for Nader
Posted by: DCostello2 on Feb 1, 2007 8:07 AM   
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Everyone blames Nader for Gore's loss - as if. What can be said, though, is that Gore, or those who voted for him, is responsible for Nader's loss.

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Nader Still in the Crosshairs By MICKEY Z.
Posted by: rwa on Feb 1, 2007 8:13 AM   
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I was at the gym, walking by a television tuned to one of the many insipid morning chat shows...but that's not what stopped me dead in my tracks. What got my attention was the guest: Ralph Nader. I watched the host begin the interview with yet another rehash/accusation/question about the 2000 election. You know the drill by now: Nader spoiled it for Gore, ruined his own legacy, blah, blah, blah. It's been repeated so often that most Americans accept it all as fact.

After having read New York magazine the night before, that first question was all I could stomach. You see, David Edelstein, the magazine's film critic, just reviewed An Unreasonable Man, a new documentary about Nader. The self-important Edelstein spoke of receiving an invitation to see the film and meet Nader afterwards. "I wrote (that) I couldn't make it," said Edelstein, "but to leave my seat vacant in the name of the Iraqi and American dead."

Left unsaid, of course, is his belief that Nader cost Al Gore the election and that Gore would never have invaded Iraq. While neither point can ever be fully proven true or false, I do have a question for Edelstein: If Al Gore cares so much about the Iraqi dead, why didn't he speak out against the murderous sanctions when he was vice president? A half-million dead Iraqi children and Gore did not say one fuckin' word in public to condemn it.

I'm also wondering if, during the Clinton-Gore years, Edelstein peppered his film reviews with similar self-righteous political statements. How about when Clinton bombed Iraq in response to an alleged plot to assassinate Bush the Elder and ended up killing Leila Attar, that country's best-known female artist?

What did the millionaire morning chat show hosts and the haughty New York magazine film critic say about that? Better question: Were they even aware it happened?

"What we have with Edelstein is the typical liberal phenomena: blame Nader instead of facing the facts," says Joshua Frank, author of Left Out: How Liberals Help Re-elect George W. Bush. "The reason Nader even made any headway in 2000 was due to his ability to tap into the mounting anti-globalization movement that was launched in Seattle one year earlier. Progressive, and even radical voters saw Nader as their chance to hold the neoliberals' feet to the fire."

Also in his "review," Edelstein declares Nader to be "obviously nuts" for making the assertion that there wasn't "a dime's bit of difference" between Bush and Gore. This statement is presented as an article of faith as Edelstein offers no evidence. Why should he when probably 99.9% of his readers agree with him?

"Nobody can say Gore wasn't a neoliberal," says Frank. "He supported NAFTA, pushed WTO/China legislation-Al Gore was a proud New Democrat for many years and that was only part of it. Under Clinton/Gore environmentalists got the Salvage Rider and the derailment of Kyoto. The working poor got welfare reform. Labor got free trade. And Iraqi kids got deadly sanctions. Those are the reasons Nader had such a powerful campaign in 2000. I think if liberals can't face that, they are the ones who are 'nuts'."

Take-home message: If all those Gore voters had pulled the lever for Ralph, we all would've been spared both the Bush administration and the Nader witch-hunt...plus, David Edelstein could to stick to writing about film.

http://www.counterpunch.org/mickeyz01312007.html

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Gas Hogs at Any Speed
Posted by: Spyder on Feb 1, 2007 8:23 AM   
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I have been a fan of Nader since his book was released, too. It is worth mentioning that the two leading populist crusaders in America both first came to our attention by going after problems with General Motors. If Michael Moore had run in 2000, we would feel the anguish about him instead. Allow me to mention Dennis Kucinich and Ross Perot in this comment, too. We all know what these guys have in common. They have each tried to offer us genuine progressive change when America so desperately needed it; however, we also know there are entirely too many yahoos out there who will vote for God & Country, no matter how insane the concept may seem at the time. What's the matter with Kansas, anyone? Right now we need to get the SUV madness under control! We need all the crusaders we can muster. Ralph made one poor choice in a long career of muckraking. The timing was a lot more than just unfortunate. America still needs a sea change, but we are never going to get it until we turn this monstrous cruise ship of selfish, moronic voters around. If you want to do something about the problem, don't let Fox News throw Hillary in the briar patch. They desperately want her to be the Democratic candidate! Don't you see? It's time for Gore and/or Edwards. Obama is the wild card. Hillary has no intention of turning the corporate cruise ship in a new direction.

Oink! Oink!

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» The Dims are Dead Posted by: rwa
Can't we simply ...
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Feb 1, 2007 9:06 AM   
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... blame 2000 on Joe Lieberman? I see no reason in the world not to.

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Who cares...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 1, 2007 9:22 AM   
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Who cares... He is just more statist scum.

www.greenanarchy.org

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Pass it on
Posted by: Stop bush now on Feb 1, 2007 10:45 AM   
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On October 24th, 2006, Ralph Nader gave a speech on the campus of USC...you can listen to it here:
http://uprisingradio.org/home/?p=1113

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Don't forget Florida
Posted by: lessbread on Feb 1, 2007 2:35 PM   
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Gore wasn't up to playing hard ball with the recount in Florida. Had he pressed for a recount of the entire state instead of just four counties, he would have won. Setting that aside, the true blame for W belongs to the Supreme Court.

Smart people have claimed that because Bush took the popular vote in 2004, the entire country is responsible for his presidency now (for example Chalmer Johnson), but that argument overlooks the notion that Bush would not have been in a position to win in 2004 had he not been selected in 2000.

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Al Gore
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Feb 1, 2007 6:37 PM   
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The true definition of the term snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.. If there was ever a Presidential election choke like the 2004 New York Yankees choke... it was Al Gore Since we are sort of talking baseball I would like to remind all New York Yankees fans that the Yankees Did what no other team in the history of major league baseball did... Lost four games in a row after being up three games to none.. going into the eight inning with a lead... Yeah Babby!!!!!!!What a great day for the world of baseball!...But I digress.

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The fact has always been that Gore didn't lose because of Nader
Posted by: sofun on Feb 2, 2007 6:48 AM   
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The 2000 exit polls tell the real story. See the Exit Polls link http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/.

- The vast majority of Nader voters wouldn't have voted in a 2-candidate election.

- Most Nader voters didn't vote at all, or didn't vote Dem or Rep in 1996

- Most Nader voters had no party affiliation

- As many Nader voters were optimistic about the results of a Gore win as were pessimistic

It's time to put to bed the idea that Nader "stole" votes from Gore that he deserved. If Ralph hadn't run, most of his voters wouldn't have voted at all or would have voted for another 3rd candidate. To say that the Dems would have gotten all his votes is simply a myth that needs to be put to bed.

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NADER! If I need any crap I'll squeeze your head
Posted by: xbj on Feb 2, 2007 7:43 AM   
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I don't care what you did for consumers... in 2000 you made it possible for Bush to steal the Presidency from Gore, and Poppy Bush and Bastard War Pig crew WOULDN'T HAVE DARED to EVEN TRY to pull 9-11 with Gore in office... he'd have had every last one of them hunted down like animals, tried, and hung on the Plaza.

And don't think Gore doesn't know they did it either, but he wisely realizes that global crisis trumps nationalism every time. And HE can see the forest for the trees.

Unlike you, Nader, possibly THE single most selfish asshole that ever ran for President in America's long history.

NADER!! Every bit of precious innocent blood spilled in BushCo's endless war is ON YOUR HANDS and ON YOUR HEAD. NO amount of money you spend, NO positive press, NO STUPID MOVIE, NO 40 CENTURIES of consumer activism can ever BEGIN to make up for what you selfishly did, NOT FOR AMERICA, but FOR YOUR EGO.

Die Nader die. Or at least JUST GO AWAY. If BushCo manage to bring China down on America's heads over Iran, YOU TAKE YOUR FAIR SHARE OF THE BLAME.

Anyone with a shred of human decency and conscience SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS FILM.

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Gary J Minter
Posted by: garyjminter on Feb 2, 2007 8:21 AM   
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Ralph Nader has been treated poorly and unjustly by many Democrats and especially by the establishment news media, who lack the courage to offend their corporate advertisers...or to give fair coverage to a man like Nader who opposed the US-British invasion of a sovereign nation which never attacked the USA or killed a single US citizen (until, of course, US troops invaded their country, killed many human beings, and captured their President, who was tried and hanged in a shabby, disrespectful manner....)

Although Saddam Hussein was a murdering tyrant, a brutal killer who gassed the Kurds and killed his political rivals, he was America's good buddy during the 1980's, when he was dong all these things with total support from Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and many others in the U.S. government.

How would we like it if foreign troops bombed Washington, D.C., captured George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Don Rumsfeld, put them on trial for war crimes, and hanged them in a tiny, dirty jail cell?

If the good Democrats like Hilary Clinton, Al Gore, John Edwards, John Kerry, and most others in Congress had listeed to Ralph Nader, we wouldn't be in this mess in Iraq now. Nader was right, they were dead wrong. They should be ashamed of themselves for supporting a lie, an unjust and illegal invasion of another country.

The major US news media should also be ashamed of themselves for failing to allow Ralph Nader, and other responsible third party candidates, to participate in at least one of the Presidential TV debates, so the American public could hear their views, instead of only the pro-neocon propaganda on FOX and the extremely pro-Israel, anti-Arab, anti-Muslim views of the New York Times and other news sources.

Although I used to be President of the Young Democrats in Roanoke, Virginia many years ago, and supported Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and most other Democratic candidates, I felt that the Democratic Party, like the Republican Party, has become dominated by corporate money, and its leaders had forgotten about the regular folks here in the good Ol' USA, and about our tradition of Liberty, and government "of, by, and for the people..."

So I became a Libertarian! I even ran for Congress as a Libertarian in 2002 on an anti-war platform, firmly opposing George W. Bush and friends' planned invasion of Iraq.

But too many of my good Libertarian friends forgot their principles, too, and too many of them supported Bush's invasion of a sovereign nation, Iraq....so I voted absentee from Beijing, where I work now as a teacher, for Ralph Nader, about the only candidate who has shown any true character, honesty, or courage in recent years....and I'll vote for Ralph again, if he runs again!

Sometimes it's better to stand up for your principles and for the truth, than to win an election....

Gary J. Minter
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Nader Didn't Help Elect Bush in 2000 It Was Massive Election Fraud
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Feb 2, 2007 12:30 PM   
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I wish folks would stop blaming Nader for putting Bush in the presidency in 2000 - if Nader had not run for office, Florida election fraud would STILL have put Bush fraudulently into the White House. Anyone still remember hundreds of thousands of black voters tossed off the Florida Voters Registrations polls? They were told they couldn't vote because they had no valid mailing address and they were convicted felons - NOT. It was all election fraud. Then there was Kathleen Harris, Florida Registrar of Voters who simulataneously worked full time as Florida Chair of the Elect Bush Committee - HUGE conflict of interest that the Democrat Party deliberately chose to ignore and do nothing about.

After the 2004 election fraud in Ohio - blacks being tossed off Registrar of Voters list by a black man who was Ohio Registar of Voters - Ken Blackwell..........go figure, he must have the same great big heaping case of Plantation Mentality that Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell have? In black Democrat precincts in Ohio - voting poll places did not get enough voting machines, ballots and people were forced to stand in line to vote for up to 6 hours. By deliberately understaffing black democrat neighborhood voting sites - bush re-elected himself fraudulently

And AGAIN the Democrat Party certified that frauduelent election as valid. Only Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Boxer, Barbara Lee, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, John Conyers, Harry Reid fought like tigers on January 6, 2005 when the leadership of the Democrat Party told them "shut up and stop being cry babies - bush is our president and we should support him." It is all in the www.congressionalrecord.gov in the first week in January 2005 transcripts - Congress/Senate has to ratify elections as valid - and the Democrats helped get bush elected in 2000 and 2004.

I'm fed up with Nader STILL being blamed for putting bush in office - I'm glad he ran just because he raised issues NONE of the other candidates were talking about.

Al Gore and Kerry are the legally elected Presidents and Bush should be impeached and put in prison for life for genocide, war crimes against humanity, abolishing Habeus Corpus, illegal wire taps, corrupt no-bid contracts worth hundreds of billions given to his golfing buddy corporate mafia dirt-bag friends.........the list goes on for grounds for impeachment and I keep wondering WHY IS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SO COMPLACENT AND APATHETIC? Why wasn't bush impeached way back when the Downing Street Memo got leaked? Taking America into a four year war that cost 3,200 lives of our soldiers, 650,000 dead civilian Iraquis, 2 million refugees who left Iraq, and the 3,000 Iraquis who leave the country daily...............no WMD - if that isn't grounds for impeachment what is......oh yeah, and don't forget Bush's legalization of institutionalized sexual torture at Abu Ghirab - it is STILL going on in Guantanamo Prison on a daily basis for the last five years. The ONLY changes made at Guantanamo after the Abu Ghirab scandal broke is they don't make prisoners wear those black hoods. Sex torture still goes on at Guantanamo and Congress, Senate and the American public is largely SILENT. Give me Ralph Nader any day - a great, lone voice in the wilderness - who gets marginalized with stupid cracks about him allegiedly wearing "rumpled suits".
Plus I wish the media would quit calling him "humourless and dour" and carping about his "rumpled suits"......He is always neatly dressed and incredibly funny and an amusing public speaker. I've seen him speak in person many times and he is neither humourless grump nor wearing rumpled suits.

Nader was arrested when he tried to sit in the audience during Presidential debates.......I heard he was going to sue but what ever happened to his lawsuit?

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If Nader had pulled out of the campaign, Gore would have won
Posted by: xbj on Feb 3, 2007 2:35 AM   
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And that's the bottom line here. If Nader had really given a damn about America at all, he would have pulled out. Politicians with a greater sense of civic duty do it in primaries all the time.

No, Nader is nothing but a penultimate selfish asshole who torpedoed America just as sure as Bush did, by insuring him his office by siphoning off votes of misled, HIGHLY UNREALISTIC idealists.

And nothing will ever change that basic fact. Not his past, not his record, nor anything he does from now until America is black glass.

Nader will always be the penultimate spoiler that led to the end of America and its conversion to Nazi Amerika. That's his place in history... suck it up.

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Spoilers...
Posted by: bassman on Feb 4, 2007 10:09 AM   
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Think how bad this country would be if Perot hadn't been the spoiler and siphonned off votes from Bush Sr. I'll never forget this question Perot answered:
Q: What would you do about the Drug War?
A: I don't know, but I promise it won't be pretty.
Scarry stuff!

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Black folk FEEL a HUGE difference between bush and gore
Posted by: barbosa on Feb 6, 2007 5:55 PM   
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It might not mean much to you, but to me and to countless other young Black men and women that I know (and many more that I have never met) who are dead or sitting in a jail cell right now, there is a HUGE difference between Bush and Gore. Many of us would have done just about anything to avoid a Bush presidency. Unfortunately, too many of us don't believe that our vote counts and therefore too many of us did not vote. Even still, I hope that potential Nader voters will think long and hard before voting for him again. If we want a third party (and we do), why not start one from the ground up? Filling local legislatures and other state and federal political and legal instituations with like-minded third party candidates prior to attempting a presidential election might be one of the keys to making a third party into a viable alternative to the Democratic party and the republicans.

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