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Hagel Fumes in Senate: "I don't think we've EVER had a coherent strategy in Iraq" [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 12:57 PM on January 24, 2007.


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UPDATE: In addition to the Feingold speech, discussed below (second video), Chuck Hagel unleashed on his colleagues, challenging Bush (first video): "I would even challenge the administration today to show us the plan that the president talked about the other night. There is no plan.... There is no strategy. This is a ping-pong game with American lives."

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Wisconsin Democrat Russ Feingold tells his colleagues that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee didn't rise to the occasion before the Iraq War, voting for the "bizarre" response to 9/11 that was the invasion of Iraq and, more importantly, that their toothless plans to oppose Bush's continuation of Iraq are equally irresponsible.

Important point: Congress DOES have the Constitutional power and right to use "the power of the purse" to stop the war on Iraq.

The committee went on to reject the Dodd Bill -- the one with teeth, not the one that simply tells Bush that some in the Congress disagree with him -- which says that "prior to sending any more troops -- the 20,000 the president wants to put into Iraq, 17,000 of them into Baghdad, a city of 6 million people -- it would require a prior authorization by the Congress."

Fortunately, with each passing bill, the pro-teeth coalition is "surging" while the pro-gums caucus fades...

Here are the votes:

YES:

Dodd - Aye
Kerry - Aye
Feingold - Aye
Boxer - Aye
Obama - Aye
Menedez - Aye

NO:

Biden - No
Cardin - No
Nelson - No
Casey - No
Webb - No
Lugar - no
Hagel - No
Coleman - No
Sununnu - No
Corker - No
Voinovich - No
Murkowski - No
DeMint - No
Issacson - No
Vitter - No

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Tagged as: iraq, democrats, senate

Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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It's a shame he's not running for prez
Posted by: timebomb734 on Jan 24, 2007 12:22 PM   
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Yay Feingold!

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Great, but...
Posted by: Wacre on Jan 24, 2007 12:52 PM   
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so sad that it has taken so long to develop momentum toward getting our troops out of there. And even now, after so many colossal blunders on the part of our president, there are still those that can't commit to the cutting of funding.

And as much as I believe everyone deserves a chance to learn, I don't think invading another nation is one of those situations. Bush has for too long disregarded the sage advice of those better versed (read: Those that have actually fought in a conflict) than he is.

Unfortunately, it is our soldiers, not the President and his cronies that have to pay the ultimate price; though isn't that the way it is with war in general?

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Time has come to reclaim our country.
Posted by: Floradora on Jan 24, 2007 4:36 PM   
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It is both tragic and pathetic that corruption in our government has reached such an appalling level and yet there have been less than a handful of people who are in a position to call for and implement change that have been willing to speak out and take a stand. So far it has been up to the people to yell and scream for their attention. Now that it has become impossible for anyone to pretend they don't see what is going on and to admit the truth about the direction of this administration, we need to encourage them to do their job, to implement change and put the brakes on this war before it is too late... too late to save face and too late to save our constitution and get back to where we once were as a nation.

I am only one of hundreds of thousands of Americans who have been disappointed in the way our government has been run. What happened to the investigations of 9/11 that we were promised by democrats running for office in the last election? We are still waiting. But it never materialized. Maybe those elected officials pretended not to see what was going on, or they were afraid of becoming a republican attack victim with concern for their careers, or out of sheer apathy, set it aside in the name of "non-partisanship". But that is not what we voted for. Many of us asked for and expected a real criminal investigation into 9/11. And we didn't mean another pretend investigation conducted by a few good 'ol boys like the original 9/11 commission. I mean how can anyone expect to believe an investigation of the crime of the century when any real science and physics were rejected, names and organizations are omitted and the most vital of the physical evidence got cut up and shipped off overseas as scrap??

Wake up America. YOU - ME- WE were lied to by the Bush administration. Never in history has an investigation been so obviously a cover up since the investigation into the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Not again. Never again! We don't need any more magic bullets.

Make no mistake, 9/11 was an inside job, and a false flag operation to win support by American citizens for a war that was intended to gain American control of the middle east and it's oil fields one country at a time, starting with Iraq. And when they could no longer pretend that Saddam Husein was responsible for the attack, since we were already there, they simply changed their tune and spoke of our obligation to bring freedom to the people of Iraq who are suffering under Saddam's cruel dictatorship. Well, if America was really worried about spreading freedom and protecting human rights, where was the support for the people of Africa where millions of innocent people were slaughtered? Was America there to spread freedom and democracy? No, American government simply gnored the genocide... after all, they have no oil in Africa.

America was not and has not done the right thing for much too long and I am angry and ashamed that my country can behave this badly. The Bush administration has betrayed us all as well as the principals America was founded on. I love America, and I am grateful to live in a free country where I have the right and duty to speak out against bad government.

So please, let us thank and encourage our representatives who have begun to speak out loud and clear, calling for action to end the dangerous, fool hardy and self-serving behavior of the Bush administration. American assets (such as the military) are not private tools to bring a new world order into power. People are dying and it has to stop and nothing is being accomplished. It is time for this (war) to stop and for Americans to take America back.

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Webb votes no?
Posted by: unitedstatesofstupidity on Jan 25, 2007 12:38 AM   
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Interesting, I don't know too much about the guy other than his response to the SOTU speech, but based on that I would have figured he'd support this.

Obama voted yes at least.. Maybe he's not a complete tool.

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Maddibee
Posted by: Maddibee on Jan 25, 2007 5:28 AM   
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Here's a person who is PRESIDENTIAL IN THOUGHT, SPEECH, AND ACTION. How many long years has it been since we have heard words of TRUTH instead of RUBBISH and SHAMEFUL PROMISES and BLATANT THREATS from a person in our U.S. Congress. Hooray for Senator Feingold. Run, man, Run -- for President, that is.

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Two-faced
Posted by: Arvy on Jan 25, 2007 8:21 AM   
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"The vice president doesn't know what he's talking about," Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Fox News last Sunday. "He has yet to be right one single time on Iraq. Name me one single time he's been right. It's about time we stop listening to that ideological rhetoric."

Note the last sentence: “It’s about time we stop listening…”

So, it’s “about time”? Is that because most of the heavy work in Iraq has already been done?

I think, given that the Democratic and Republican parties are basically just alternative managers of the same (corporate) system then it’s reasonable to assume that both parties have their collective eye on the control of Iraqi oil.
And Iranian oil.
And African… etc.

If you take the American system as a whole, then one hand (dems) realise that the other hand (repubs) are going to make a grab for foreign resources in a gung-ho, unilateralist, agressive, illegal way. This suits the dems as the repubs become the scape-goat, so by the time the dems get back into the white house they find themselves in control of Iraqi oil without any of the blame or dirt attached to themselves.

In short, America “wins” (if you define winning as stealing!).

There are no good guys or bad guys, just national interests. Is this national interest morally justified? If not, then change the whole system (I know, it’s easy to say!). I don’t think a change of party will make much difference; maybe only in style.

I hope I’m wrong but how many times have we pinned hopes on a new government only to see them morph into their opposite once they get into power?

We’ve already been warned that the Cold Wa…sorry, the “War on Terror” will last another 50 years. A statement recently parroted by a cabinet minister here in the UK, John Reid (a kind of ‘Rumsfeld-lite’), someone who used to be a socialist. We (pinko-liberals) danced when Thatcher was put out of power, followed a few years later by her government. Tony Blair promised that his government would be “whiter-than-white” as a contrast to the previous Conservative sleaze-bags but ask most people in the UK today and you’ll find that he’s seen as being sleazier than they ever were!

I am beginning to feel that Anarchy is the way forward since it offers order without government / power systems; (yes, that’s the classic definition of anarchy - not the new one which defines it as smashing the windows of a McDonalds!) Remeber: Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Jan 25, 2007 10:33 AM   
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Bush and his BobbleHeads wouldn't know what strategy is even if it bit them in their collective asses!

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Biden, Hagel & Webb vote NO!
Posted by: psudadgrad on Jan 25, 2007 3:40 PM   
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These guys are all talk. When the time comes to act, they become politicians. Chicken shits! Feingold backs up his words with action. He says he can be more productive as a Senator? I'd love to see President Feingold.

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PRESIDENT?
Posted by: cyn999 on Jan 26, 2007 12:39 PM   
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FEINGOLD FOR PRESIDENT '08!

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Feingold not for president now, but keep supporting him
Posted by: jamessuffern on Jan 28, 2007 11:20 AM   
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It's true, Feingold has announced that he won't be running for president--proof of that is here: http://www.runrussrun.com

But we can continue to support him and hopefully 5 years from today we could be in the midst of his first presidential campaign.

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