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Robertson unhinged over new female Bishop [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 11:21 AM on November 2, 2006.


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Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) is terrified. The Episcopal Church has elected a new Presiding Bishop, Katharine Jefferts-Schori, the first woman in over half a millennium of chief Bishops.

For its part, CBN can't even bring itself to use the Church's language, claiming that she'll be "installed" as the head of the Episcopal Church, as opposed to the way it appears on their website: "She was elected June 18 by her colleagues in the House of Bishops from among seven nominees. The House of Deputies confirmed her election the same day."

"Appalled is too weak a word to describe this thing," giggles Robertson.

Their problem, he says, is not that she's a woman, even though he does have a little woman problem, calling feminism a "socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." The problem, rather, is that she does not exclude gays from any services (including marriage) and because she believes that Jesus Christ is not the only path to God. Or, put another way, that 4-5 billion inhabitants of Earth still have a shot at heaven. Jefferts-Schori has said: "if we insist that we know the one way to God, we've put God in a very small box."

Here's the really interesting coincidence: Robertson uses a clunky flying analogy to critique Jefferts-Schori's acceptance of different paths to God. He says,

"I'm a pilot, I"m not a very good pilot, and i haven't flown a plane in a long time. But I wanna tell you something. When I'm coming in to land, there's like a 50-foot runway. And I'd better be on that runway're i'm gonna kill myself and the passengers with me.
You don't want all the ways to the control tower, you want one way; you want the main runway or if there's a side runway, you want that one.** But there is one way, the Bible says there's only one way to God; He is the Way, the Truth and the Life; no man comes to the Father but by Him.
He then goes on to claim that the Episcopalian Church has denied it's raison d'etre (French traitor!!)...

Well, Marion, er Pat, coincidence has it that the Episcopal Church's new Bishop is not only a liberal, pluralist woman, but she's also an accomplished scientist and pilot. And this pilot knows the way to a God that bestows love, as opposed to your terror, bigotry and division. A God that even loves you and your comically stupid metaphors.

**I can't bear to leave this be. Is he joking? I mean, is there some side runway to Jesus? Does Jesus know this?

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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robertson.. sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Nov 2, 2006 11:43 AM   
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unhinged over this???!!! Robertson's hinge has been letting his door swing in the wind long before this. This has only loosened it more

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» RE: robertson.. sickofsleaze Posted by: willymack
No one is surprised....
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 2, 2006 11:48 AM   
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C'mon... Pat Robertson grousing about any and everything that differs even slightly from his idea of orthodoxy (and does he even represent any actual church or sect?) is a bit like John Waters loving anything horribly tacky. Its just not a surprise... its the media equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel.

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Episcopals
Posted by: fanny666 on Nov 2, 2006 11:58 AM   
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I grew up Episcopal- although even as a kid I didn't buy into much of religion- looking back now it struck me that they focused on the GOOD parts of the Bible...

New Testament, teaching of Jesus- how he LIVED rather than obsessing over how he died... and it seems that it's a sort of unstated knowledge that the Bible (which says "King James Version" right on the cover) did not fall out of the sky, in English, and into our Hotel rooms.

One of the biggest sources of Christian-based religious intolerance, in my view, is the notion that the Bible is completely and literally the Word Of God.

Gays are an abomination, but so is eating shellfish or touching the skin of a dead pig! So why do these stone-throwing Christians protest AIDS funerals, but not Red Lobster resturants or football games?

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» LOVE Posted by: axjxhx
» A question for you, if I may Posted by: HeroesAll
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THE REV ROSS
Posted by: Rosshb on Nov 2, 2006 1:25 PM   
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POOR OLD PAT HAS FLOWN TOO MANY TRIPS TO HIS MINES IN AFRICA AT HIGH ALTITUDES WITHOUT OXYGEN AND HAS A HARD TIME WITH REALITY. HE WANTS TO KILL LEADERS OF OTHER COUNTRIES. CALL DOWN HURRICANES ON FLORIDA. JESUS TAUGHT US TO LOVE OUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU

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» RE: THE REV ROSS Posted by: Dak
What is it to him?
Posted by: charemor on Nov 2, 2006 1:58 PM   
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This constipated looking half wit isn't even Episcopalian so what does it matter to him if they elect a woman or not?

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The Side Runway
Posted by: picaresque on Nov 2, 2006 2:15 PM   
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The Side Runway to Jesus is to get yourself big fistfuls of money, and a bully pulpit where you can share any of your half-assed misinformed opinions between pledge drives and advertisements for Age Defying Shakes. It's rarely used, but those who do use it have a special place in Jesus' heart.

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» RE: The Side Runway Posted by: zipper696
I have had it with ALL Christianity.
Posted by: Ellie1 on Nov 2, 2006 3:15 PM   
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Seems to me that all Christian churches today are full of hypocrits, liars, and thieves and pass off heinous criminals like George Bush as "God fearing followers". Not only is our government corrupted by liars, so are many our churches. This country is going to H-ll in a hand basket, as the saying goes.

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Pleeeeeeeeeease Pat
Posted by: rollo on Nov 2, 2006 3:40 PM   
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push that control stick all the forward and hit that fuckin' runway hard

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» RE: Pleeeeeeeeeease Pat Posted by: cottontail
Bad Pilotage
Posted by: thehousedog on Nov 2, 2006 5:47 PM   
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Federal Aviation Regulations decree that the pilot in command must have all information about the conditions at both the place of departure and arrival and at all places in between prior to commencing a journey on board an aircraft. This includes the information about the runways, their length, condition, and alternatives.

It would really make me worried, and probably crap in my pants, to know that I had a pilot like the Rev. Pat Roberson on board to take me to a destination where he did not know (a) that the destination runway was only 50 feet long, or (b), he did not know that there were any other runways at the destination.

But I digress, since we're talking about a destination where probably nobody has ever been and certainly has never come back from.

In any case, the pilot analogy is hilarious, but i do think that Pat owes us all a favor - let us know next time he's flying so we can all stay on the ground.

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I was raised an Episcopal.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Nov 2, 2006 7:56 PM   
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And that is why I am an atheist today. Thanks be to the Episcopal Church for giving me the tools to choose.

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kenny453
Posted by: kenny453 on Nov 2, 2006 8:16 PM   
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The comedian Lewis Black has a funny bit about the old testament being for the jews, and the christians are supposed to follow the new one. and of course the book that has two versions of the ten commandments, and punishments for lots of other minor transgressions, yet seems to condone war, slavery, and genocide, just seems at odds with Christ's teachings. There is a great website, Episcopal Bishop John Spong, it's got hundreds of essays of his on this and many other relevant topics, He has a couple of books out too, and reading his stuff reminds you that many, if not most members of christian churches are offended, and embarrased by the likes on Robertson.

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Love & Compassion
Posted by: sekitadel on Nov 2, 2006 8:26 PM   
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...But there is one way, the Bible says there's only one way to God; He [Jesus] is the Way, the Truth and the Life; no man comes to the Father but by Him.

If Jesus taught (mostly, from my understanding) Love, then the Way must be through Love, the Truth must be Love and Life must be lived with/in Love (ditto all these with Compassion).

Looks like someone didn't get it.

(And I'm not even Christian)

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If this wasn't so important...
Posted by: Plenum on Nov 3, 2006 3:56 AM   
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Because what these fools like Robertson say is so important to millions of people who can't sort faith out for themselves, it BECOMES an important issue.

But for me, deep down inside and I suppose, unfortunately, the whole thing is a big, big yawnnnn.... It's become a Seinfeld-like situation - all about nuthin'.

Poor Christian's faith are being whipped around like rag in a hurricane, but can't see through their own faith to recognize that it is their faith-filled leaders who give the entire Christian church a poor name.

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Relativists unite!
Posted by: auggiedaddy on Nov 3, 2006 6:19 AM   
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I can't stand Pat and his ilk - TV hucksters profiteering from fire and brimstone. Having said that, he is dead right in this case. The Bible does not equivocate - it claims that the words in it were "breathed into the mouths" of the disciples that recorded them. The God (the 3 in 1) described therein is omnipotent and is entirely capable of guiding the hands of the men who transcribed the texts for the King James version. The incredible accuracy of the KJV was confirmed with the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls in the forties.

The great shift in thinking in the modern world was from the classical theory of absolutism to the doctrine of relativism as promulgated by the likes of Kant, Hegel and Kierkegard. The Bible and the words of Christ are not a salad bar - you cannot logically take what you like and leave what you don't - it is pure relativistic, non-logical reasoning to do so. The beauty of what America was - was freedom FROM religion as much as freedom of religion. The entire path to salvation according to Jesus is based on the individual's FREE WILL to choose to believe. If you choose not to believe, that is your inalienable right and you have all my respect. Do not hide behind wishy-washy self-delusion to water down the clear and implicit words of Christ! I deplore the genocidal W administration and the Israeli government and the psychotic fruits that consider themselves to be "Christians" and support these mass murderers. However that does not deter my faith and trust in Christ, and actually confirms what the Bible teaches about man's sinful hypocritical nature. Peace to all.

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Sorry I have to agree!!!!!
Posted by: deapp on Nov 3, 2006 7:47 AM   
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You can call me anything you want and I'm far from being a Pat Lick A** but I got to agree with him on this one. Everyone have their own spiritual belief systems. You can believe in any god or devil you want in this country or believe in non. Christianity have rules that are well defined and then there are those that are not well defined and can be debated. That's a good thing but the bible tells Christians to do so among other Christians not with non Christians. Pat was within his own little Christian environment when he made those statements. Only his viewers would understand those statements. Disgruntled Christians, non Christians, Aesthesis, Satanist,Taoist nor Buddhist would understand fully the belief system of Christianity neither would Christians understand fully the their belief systems. To understand any belief system you must understand it's Spiritual, Cultural and Historical foundation, beyond that it becomes absolutes that conflict with your societal norms. The Poli-Christian Conservative Right is not a Christian organization but a cult. Christianity maybe a religion you don't agree with but most people doing Jesus day thought He was a nut. Christianity is a discipline (disciples) and not a practice neither is it a political tool. It should be a way of life for those that believe it. Can Pat operate apart from his cultic beliefs in Poli-Christian ideology?

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puhsleaze
Posted by: hangman on Nov 3, 2006 10:07 AM   
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puhlease, its the sleaze Pat Robertson who is saying these bizzare asinine things about the world and others. the man is a senile,crazy lunatic based on the things that come out of his mouth.

I am Catholic and I kinda love the fact that a woman is in the position she is in as a bishop.

Heck, if there is a God, it must be a woman and she must be scratching her head and and wondering what fools these mortal men be with all their twisted views on life and religion. Men like Robertson have some serious problems with control and greed for money and power over others lives while he (Patty boy) uses God for his selfish goals .

I wouldn't waste too much time on Patty boy and his rants about others, rather pay better attention to the lovely woman who is now in a position to spread love and respect with positive light on things.

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give preacher pat his meds now
Posted by: larry278 on Nov 3, 2006 4:52 PM   
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The Episcopal church has survived Protestant, Puritan zealots, RC reactionaries, ultra-liberal laity, clergy & bishops & still exists. Preacher Pat is too much of a fundy to fit in the low church, much too full of himself to be in the broad church & lacks the humility to be in the high church. The Episcopalian movement has a great crisis involving the essence & corpus of Anglican faith. They are engaging in a serious internal conflict which means that they have no time to listen to a prattling twit of the ilk of Preacher Pat. Preacher Pat will have to be content with the fleeting attention of the MSM & be prepared to be ignored by 12 hrs from now save by the sheep of his flock as he sheers them & instead of fattening his flock for the slaughter starves of their sustanance to finance his gradiose schemses which come to nothing save well earned contempt.
Latch on to some fundie mega-churches, Preacher Pat, they may fund you between times you can come up with absurd, self-serving publicity stunts & the lean times you must endure when the MSM tires of your pathetic old publicity stunts.

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Robertson unhinged??
Posted by: Doubtom on Nov 4, 2006 12:24 AM   
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Talk about stating the obvious--this clown was unhinged a long time ago. Nothing is more amusing than hearing one looney calling another looney a looney. To watch this idiot grimace as if in pain, when he prays out loud (for the world to see) is to watch an example of functioning insanity.

Robertson's religion puts such a heavy emphasis on making money, and working diamond mines so it's understandable that he would find other religions which only dwell on charity and such, as being outside the bounds of religious propriety.

There's never been a shortage of con men but most are satisfied to run their own con without criticizing others. It's not smart to call attention to the flaws in other con games when you're running one yourself.

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Nothing new; nothing changed
Posted by: bookwoman on Nov 5, 2006 8:50 AM   
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Twenty years ago, Pat Robertson described the Episcopal Church of the US as the spawn of the devil. I don't know what we were doing back then, maybe feeding the poor or something else of which he didn't approve. At any rate, there are just some people whose approval we don't need.

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