What kind of a system do we have that enables a exceptionally incapable person to hold office, flaunt the constitution, attack countries without provocation - yet is elected twice (regardless of FL/OH arguments).

So what is this terrorist ideology that Bush knows so well, while stating that it's important to listen to them. He certainly has not described that ideology and, any vague descriptions I've heard bear no resemblence to what any terrorist has published - at least what I've seen in the foreign media.

He is incapable of putting together a rational argument. What trash.

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I am not sure if I am looking for something that dosn't exist (saskwatch may be easier to find than neocon reason), but what is the rationale behind getting torture legalized knowing that the vast majority of intelligence experts state that the info is unreliable? Is it to cover acts that have aready happened and save his own skin from the firing squad? Or, perhaps a political bait to show how weak dems won't water board? Is it so they can torture and get the fake intel they need to push invasions, like they did for Iraq? What?

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Why do we continue to allow our country to be disgraced ? The Constitution, Geneva Convention, Supreme Court all mean nothing to the president. I'm tired of his religion and ideology crap. He lied us into Iraq and now tells us about a war for civilization. He has no interest in our well being or safety. And doesn't give a rat's a--about our military. He is detached from all reality and we are paying a high price to have a nutcase in charge. Thanks, ANNA

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Time is running out??? What does THAT mean?????????

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Bush wants clarity so that the professionals (professional what?) will know what is "legal." What about what is moral? I mean it is he and his cronies who like to use that word so much.

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If it takes more than 3 seconds to absorb, the average American moves on. There are blond teachers to watch on the TV. We don't read. It may be argued that this is a result of the dumbed-down culture, or whatever, but I'm here. And you're here. Let's go. Hey, I know, let's git'er done.

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While watching the remnants of the "Today" show on my Nordic Track, this "special report" cuts in and I get to see our President in the Rose Garden. Never have I seen a public figure so animated, full of crap and dumb as sin. It is astounding that this man is our President. I think anybody watching his performance would have to agree that he has a serious mental condition, and I am not a mental health professional. Our President needs help and it's somewhat disturbing to think he is a "commander" in chief! His attitude demonstrates that he does not care, his body language indicates he could give less than a sh*t, and his inability to articulate a clearly coherent thought about what he is really speaking to, all this "moral clarity" stuff is just legal mumbo-jumbo so that he and his neo-con cronies can continue to wreck this country and the world. Poor little Georgie - not getting his way either as the "decider" or as President - now has to be mean and end his "programs" because he's miffed. Disgusting.

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What a shocking display of mental instability and sick projection. This unbalanced man-child fronts the most despicable cabal of twisted sociopaths the world has ever seen. When this flailing imbecile talks about "they're comin' again" he means the next phoney Al Qaeda synthetic terror attack that his boys are going to pull on us. It's as transparent to me as the idiotic attempt to convince us that he read Camus.

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Colin Powell's actual remarks would be nice.

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I was appalled at the President's behavior and his incoherence during today's press conference. It's time for the media to confront and report the fact that this man is mentally unstable. But, Dear God, that would leave us with Cheney...

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Holy crap, cowboy George has lost his saddle !

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I take away a different impression of this press conference. I think the president is telling it like it is. There right now is a profound threat alert out for a late September catastrophic attack on the US. It is why Bush is worried. He knows this threat and that it is credible. The security services are racing against time to stop it, and they need the legislation to stay in place.

A seperate discussion of the rights or wrongs of Iraq is for another day.

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Fear, fear, smoke 'n mirr'... There IS no war on terror, and we are not vulnerable to "catastrophic attacks". What, more remote control planes crashing into buildings? It is over-the-top fear-mongering rhetoric and it is very transparent bullshit to advance the REAL catastrophe, empire everywhere and the police state at home. WAKE UP!!!!!

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Whats he mean by that ? Didn't anyone think to ask ?
Run for your lives, George knows something !!

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Americans will die again in a false flag attack before the election.
Can you say marshall law?

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I'm sorry but I just don't agree that Bush was unstable or unraveling before our eyes there. I saw nothing different than I've seen since day one. Just twisted propagandistic language, talking points designed to further a fear based political agenda. It has been nonsensical, inhumane, unreasoned, illogical from the beginning.

However, what makes this and many other recent interviews, and press conferences with Bush and Chenney and Rice and others SEEM different is that the questions coming from reporters are now more direct, more challenging, more difficult to justify and more and more of the American public no longer trusts these insane answers.

The admission of the NSA spying, the admission of secret CIA prisons and extraordinary rendition and "alternative interrogation techniques" are now OPEN lies. Anyone with half a memory left can see that there is nothing in this White House that can be trusted. The corruption and scandal of the ruling Republican party hacks is now impossible to ignore as the indictments pile up.

Americans, even Republican ones, distrust government spying, secret detention centers, CIA misdeeds, torture, deceit. And more and more Republicans are falling off the all Bush all the time bandwagon.

There is a wind change in press coverage (albiet a small one), there is a wind change in public perception, but it all seems too little, too late. Six years of this lunacy is more than enough. One day of it was too much.

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One need not ridicule individuals in this. The issue at hand is the most important.

The President is correct in saying that any government's first priority is to care for its subjects. That is the reason for a state. The state furthermore has the privilege to make it's own laws. He is also probably right in stating that another terrorist attack will likely occur. Whether these attacks will come from the outside, or from within the USA (which is actually the rule more than the exception) is another story.

The problems are twofold with the bills in question. The first problem is domestic, that of how far a government and its agencies should be allowed to impose itself on the mostly legal activities of its citizens, with or withour their knowledge. There is a line where, if crossed, the means used to avoid terrorism actually brings more harm and fear than terrorism itself. And there is no such thing as a foolproof system, neither when it comes to avoid or deterr attack, or when it comes to the possibility of misuse. The knowledge collected is there, and knowledge available is always tempting in future unknown scenarios to use for different purposes than those intended when the knowledge was amassed. This is the purely national aspect, as it is directed at the nations own citizens.

The other problem is what made me chose the heading I did. The nationalization of international law that is suggested by putting interpretations into law is very, very troublesome. The intentions might be the best, but the consequences are likely to be both grave and far reaching. Being the superpower it is, the US actions in this respect makes for precedence for the entire world.

The President refers to the terrorists, but they are, frankly, the least concern on this issue. If a powerful state redefines international law - not only in arguments but cemented in national law - who is to stop any other state to do the same?

First, those very definitions and clarifications made into law in the US is likely to be followed dilligently by others when interrogating their "suspected terrorists" whether those be Chechnyan civilians by Russia, Tibetians by China, Karan's by those splendid guys in Burma, or .... Western nationals by Iran secret police - an organisation feared under the Shah, and probably not less powerful or eager to please today. "We're not torturing our detainees, just interrogating them".

But worse, if the US makes presedence on the state's right to make national law regulate international law, why should others not follow up on that? Why not "clarify" other "vague" issues in the conventions? And why wait on the US to do it?

The US, whether it likes it or not, has a special responsibility derived from its status in the world, to act with caution. If this bill is accepted, there might be a short term gain, but the long term consequences are to be feared by both the US and the rest of the world.

The rules for international affairs might not be the best, but they are all we have. No nation should unilaterally be allowed to change them.

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I viewed the unraveling on Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Quite a display only missing the frothing at the mouth. However, I later watched ABC's evening news. The event was highly edited and did not show Bush in high dudgeon. Had I not seen the fuller version, I'd have never guessed that he'd come apart at the seams.

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What should be focused on his psychotic response (his behavior in another environment would be called "combative" and antipsychotic drugs would be prescribed ) is:

Why this extreme response??? There is always a dirty motive behind everything Rove, I mean, Bush does and says and it is interesting to speculate on what it really is. (you know how we start to speculate what the real news is on days that the media is hawking crap, start to scratch your head and look at the death numbers in Iraq). The American Red Cross has or is, interviewing the 14 detainees brought last week to Qitmo/ It is assumed that inhumane torture was used on them, markedly water boarding, which is a huge and unquestionnable violation of the Geneva Convention. Bush is trying to get his "clarification": )can you believe the audacity of these con men) to be retroactive so he isnt tried as a war criminal, which he is. He has killed tens of thousands, far surrpassing Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden. Bush is perceived in the rest of the sane world as the worlds biggest threat to peace and the worlds most henous war criminal. Lets start talking Nazis here.

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What should be focused on his psychotic response (his behavior in another environment would be called "combative" and antipsychotic drugs would be prescribed ) is:

Why this extreme response??? There is always a dirty motive behind everything Rove, I mean, Bush does and says and it is interesting to speculate on what it really is. (you know how we start to speculate what the real news is on days that the media is hawking crap, start to scratch your head and look at the death numbers in Iraq). The American Red Cross has or is, interviewing the 14 detainees brought last week to Qitmo/ It is assumed that inhumane torture was used on them, markedly water boarding, which is a huge and unquestionnable violation of the Geneva Convention. Bush is trying to get his "clarification": )can you believe the audacity of these con men) to be retroactive so he isnt tried as a war criminal, which he is. He has killed tens of thousands, far surrpassing Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden. Bush is perceived in the rest of the sane world as the worlds biggest threat to peace and the worlds most henous war criminal. Lets start talking Nazis here.

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Jan, you are completely correct! The reason for the urgency is to cover all their collective azzes with immunity from being tried as war criminals!

Why would any of the Evil Cabal care about legality? They've broken laws with arrogant impunity for years, right? Most of the laws they've ignored have been our own domestic laws ( NSA, etc.) so they have Chief Weasel Gonzalez and their very own handpicked Supreme Court to get them out of it.

This is different in that they all had prior knowledge and knowingly gave their consent. They are NAILED in the eyes of the World Court and they realize it.

That's why all the "urgency".

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I watched this press conference several times and the impression I got is that Bush is terrified, himself. He knows if the Dems win a majority in either the House or the Senate his ass is cooked.He has had free ride while the Republicans are in charge and their is a very strong possibilty he may not have that after Nov. He is terrified he will have to answer for is crimes.The only thing George cares about is his own ass .He has proven that through out his life. He may be the first president to go to jail. Nixon came close,but if the sh-t hits the fan resignation may not be an option.So like the school yard bully he is running scared and is not sure who to kick first.

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scared shitless, because he knows if he can't keep the American people fearful that the bogey man is coming, that the powers that be, are going to throw him to the wolves. That's why he's unraveling and nothing else. He see's his days numbered. I wouldn't be surprised if he had skid marks in his pants everyday.

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Bush is a dry drunk, period, and consequently, a mindless twerp.
If Rove should go to jail (Mrs. Wilson)...refer to previous sentence.

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The world is exponentially less safe than prior to the George's stolen elections. Their desire and still is, was to control the world's oil market. Further, the Military industrial Complex has raked in billions, perhaps trillions on needless junk like the F-117, which is shortly to be junked, the B-2 Bomber which made 36 hour round trips from Whiteman AFB with pilots high on amphetamines to drop ONE load of ordinance, always at night over a country that has no air defense. It is the Middle Eastern Oil they crave and selling off all of Iraq's assets, and flooding what remains of the Iraqi market with cheap chinese goods inflated for American profits, driving what's left of the Iraqi work force into abject poverty or death. As long as the Bush Crime Family and associates remain in power, and alive, this debauchery will never stop.

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that bro is one crazy mo fo

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AND WE ARE BEING "LED" BY A DRUG ADDICT WITH HIS FINGER ON THE "BUTTON!"

COMFORTING THOUGHT, ISN'T IT?

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I have this paranoid feeling that this bastard bunch will topple the whole apple cart at a politically strategic moment just to save their lying asses. It's always been so coincidently timed that there seems to always be a need to fill those non-news gaps in the daily "need to know.." what exciting thing is going to change for the good of humanity or what stress will we need to endure next to keep our economy growing to no where!

How is it no one has even tried to....get rid this guy?
Stop focusing on Bush! Just focus on his support drones. Get rid of the Rove, Chenney, Rummy and Wolfy. With out a foundation he'll fall flat on his ass. I mean if you look at the NeoCon group as individuals they are all maniacal psychotics. Except for Condi! She's just a Bush shill, same as the Attorney General. You can't think that those bigots really believe in democratic equinimity. Man, soap operas have nothing on this bunch of thesbians. How long can this show go on? It's a typical time bomb plot. I just wish I knew how it's going to blow, as we all know it has to. The suspense is killing me.
I have to go get more popcorn!

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Bush wouldn't have to get clarity on this Common Article III if he weren't constantly under attack by liberals and Democrats. GW's just trying to cover the bases. If we're going to invoke Common Article III with the underlying insinuation that we aren't currently following that convention, then we definitely need clarification.

We haven't been torturing anyone by my standards and by a lot of other's standards, yet the Bush haters are trying to milk this bull for everything they can. Well, you know what you get when you try to milk a bull?

President Bush doesn't answer questions very well, and this press conference is no exception. But he is right to ask for a more clearly defined protocal other than "There will be no outrages upon human dignity."

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bushole said he found out about the explosives in WTC by torturing some Arab

do you believe him? some dems are still pushing the 19 box cutting arabs myth because they're a bunch of god damned bigots who don't care about the genocide against arabs. these creeps are the ones who take money from AIPAC.

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