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McCain-Palin Rally Attendees Say Incredible, Ridiculous Things

Posted by Seth Colter Walls, Huffington Post at 12:42 PM on October 10, 2008.


File this one under the "give 'em enough rope" column.

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File this one under the "give 'em enough rope" column. A pro-Obama blogger in Ohio caught McCain-Palin supporters as they streamed into a rally and asked some of the most salient questions of the day. Like, "is Obama a terrorist?" Check out the responses.



UPDATE: Another video filmed outside a McCain event in Pennsylvania:






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how illuminating...
Posted by: babs on Oct 10, 2008 1:13 PM   
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and disgusting.

Uneducated, overwhelmingly white, proud-to-be-stupid hicks - John McCain and Sarah Palin's base.

the Idiocracy is alive and well - don't let them get away with it.

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» RE: how illuminating... Posted by: ohb0b
» RE: how illuminating... Posted by: Bibsisis
» It's time.... Posted by: EJW
» RE: It's time.... Posted by: Malamute
» RE: It's time.... Posted by: Bibsisis
not a bad job, but lets get more professional
Posted by: andrewstromotich on Oct 10, 2008 1:41 PM   
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of exposing the ignorance and fear/anger (as they go hand in hand-first create fear and then harness the anger), especially with than blonde lunatic, but and here's the but i always add and get so much crap for on this site...
but, the videographer/citizen journalist showed a little disdain and annoyance with the subjects it wasa asking to participate in his project (to make a video), which leads to extremist response, or at least agitated response.

this is a form of journalism that fox has perfected and that the indipendent media is starting to emulate,which is so disappointing.

all this interview did was show its viewing public, that the republican supporting pop is dim witted, uninformed and reactionary (tell me something i don't know, huh?)...

if the journalist stayed on task instead of trying to create a sensational, knee jerk reaction, it would have been interesting... he got one good response ( a good response is an honest illuminating response).
the interviewee said she thought she knew more about Palin than Obama because of the character developing stories she has been inundated with recently by MSM. I'm sure this is true, but the interviewer told her he reject that as not being valid.
she just told him why she thinks she knows PALIN best, and he said he thought she was incorrect.
this was the only interesting, illuminating part of the interview, and the interviewer was not professional enough to accept it, and build on it, instead he threw up a montage of silliness that reduce this to nothing really significant.
u got close bro, citizen journalism is tuff, and its even harder to remove your own bias to present a truth (that the media is what is responsible for building the palin and obama myth)...

peace
andrew stromotich
www.dropframestudios.com

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Ignorance and stupidity at the core
Posted by: RosieRivetor on Oct 10, 2008 1:52 PM   
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First let me say how sorry I am to those educated and intelligent people in OH and PA that have to live among these idiots. Perosnally, I don't know how you can stand it. That being said, how do these morons feed themselves? I know that the right to vote is guaranteed regardless of education and intelligence but really, you have to take a test to be a citizen of this country, maybe you should have to pass that same test to register before every election. I'm pretty sure Blondie wouldn't pass! Because lets face it, when uninformed, judgemental and down right stupid people like those featured in this video go to the polls each time, they are unequiped to make a thoughtful decision. I'm not saying that there are not people in the world who are making a thoughtful decision to vote for McSame and Ginger because I know a few wealthy people who are voting their wallets despite everything going on right now. But that does not apply to Mindy and her neighbors.

Oh, and if Terrorists do attack again the US, I would bet with my life, it's not going to be anywhere near bum-suck Ohio. So eat another cruller Mindy cause your little neck of nowhere is safe.

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» Oh Come On... Posted by: aonghus36
The 2nd clip was better than the first.
Posted by: Lauren on Oct 10, 2008 2:05 PM   
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Look at the media bigwig battle stirring up over who to blame.

Bill Kristol is the one who pushed for Palin as VP, and won over Karl Rove who wanted Romney and McCain who wanted Lieberman.

David Brooks is totally trashing the decision. I never was much of a fan of David's but compared to truly evil men like Karl Rove and Bill Kristol, he is a saint.

I find it very interesting to to see how they all are breaking out into their various factions and buddy teams.

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Blonde Bitch
Posted by: JSquercia on Oct 10, 2008 2:55 PM   
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I don't how they didn't just punch that loud mouthed Blonde Bitch who constantly inserted herself into the picture .

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» RE: Blonde Bitch Posted by: Bibsisis
» RE: Blonde drunk? Posted by: Lauren
Final Solution
Posted by: QQOblivion on Oct 10, 2008 3:58 PM   
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Speaking of McCain and Palin riling up the crowds.
Hey, you know who else riled up crowds, also getting them to blame scapegoats for their problems? Think back 7 decades...

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» RE: Final Solution Posted by: chuckjs
» RE: Final Solution Posted by: djnoll
Amateur journalism...
Posted by: Obijuan on Oct 10, 2008 4:06 PM   
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...but still very revealing.

Frankly, I am terrified.

obi

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sad to see
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 10, 2008 4:14 PM   
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what meth can do to a person.

jdfu!

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I'm speechless
Posted by: Acme_Rocket on Oct 10, 2008 4:40 PM   
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I don't have the words to describe this. I know I'm too hopeful that this footage would make the national media, but still it's amazing people like this exist.
From their perspective it must have a lot to do with trust. They trust John McCain and Sarah Palin so much, that if they told them the moon landing was faked they'd all believe them. Not one of the people in that video seemed to be capable of thinking outside the Republican talking points.
I'm not even angry, just shocked and I feel sorry for them. Not so much for having beliefs completely opposite my own, but that it would seem no matter what I could tell them or evidence I showed them I could never change their minds. If this isn't brainwashing, I don't know what is.

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» RE: I'm speechless Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: I'm speechless Posted by: Acme_Rocket
» RE: I'm speechless Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: I'm speechless Posted by: djnoll
Wow, Racism and Hate and STUPIDITY Alive and Well
Posted by: thinks4herself2008 on Oct 10, 2008 4:40 PM   
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Sad to see that based on a person's name or the color of his skin people would rather vote for the white woman because she seems familiar. They obviously don't know Palin's record at all or what she and McCain plan to do to our country. These people are dangerous because of their ignorance.

http://crabbyshangout2008.blogspot.com/

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Morons
Posted by: rclord on Oct 10, 2008 6:02 PM   
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It is difficult for them to offend me; their statements are so mindbogglingly absurd. I can't understand how anyone would listen to them.

But then I remember that lots of people in this country do, and it's not so funny any more.

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» Public Education... Posted by: EJW
Ugly Americans
Posted by: Rosasharn on Oct 10, 2008 6:26 PM   
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These videos show how REALLY, REALLY stupid people become lemmings by listening, I'm taking a guess, to way, WAY too much Limbaugh. It's embarassing that these morons are Americans. I didn't know people from Pennyslvania were that bigoted, that DUMB, and really, extremely UGLY. It also appears that their physical condition also matches the ugliness of their souls. How very sad for all of them and especially sad for all their children. I've never heard such stupidity in my life! Astonishing!

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» Pennyslvania Posted by: kepstein7777
throw those fine citizens
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Oct 10, 2008 7:41 PM   
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a sheet & some lighter fuel & I think there would be a shortage of black churches within short order.


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wait, I have seen these 'value voters' before
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 10, 2008 7:58 PM   
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I know, these people were in the audience in
Borat's 'Threw the Jew down the well' - ROFL

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» Yeah, Except... Posted by: grumble-bum
Other videos attached to this one
Posted by: eaajdjholton on Oct 10, 2008 9:42 PM   
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show even more scary things in my opinion.
(After the video is over click through the videos that appear at the bottom of the window)

In the 1980's (God I'm dating myself!) I was a community organizer/activist--couldn't get more liberal! I attended a conference in Chicago where there were 1500 people just like me--we were courted by all the democratic candidates for president (it was an election year--anyone remember Pat Schroder?). Anyway--that year the conference was nothing more than a HUGE rally--it was energizing and wonderful (sigh--nostalgia.......)! To get to the point.......a few of those other videos are of McCain rallys--even though we were all activists (read rabid liberals!) and we got to hear Jesse Jackson and Pat Schroder back to back (Wow--and I do mean WOW!!!!!) the reaction from our crowd of 1500 was NOTHING like that of the McCain rally! All I can equate the reaction of McCain's audience to is a pro wrestling event--I can totally see those people out for blood!

I'm concerned that even if Obama wins our country will have been so fractured by the hate filled rhetoric and the divisiveness of the campaign that nothing will be able to be accomplished. As our country becomes more and more divided into camps titled "right" and "left" I truly fear for the future that we are setting up for our children to inherit. I have four of my own that I worry about..........

Videos like these make me feel like quoting Rodney King...............

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» RE: God I'm dating myself! Posted by: Lauren
Strange change since 9/11.
Posted by: chuckjs on Oct 11, 2008 3:47 AM   
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Seems to me that these idiots have changed their opinion quite a bit since 2001. The chants of USA USA USA are the same as shortly after 9/11 except now they are directed at American citizens. Sick bastards!

I remember a nation joined together in grief and support. At that time "everyone was American"

Now not even other Americans are "American"

I cannot imagine the level of non education it would take for an American citizen to believe that there is a terrorist actually running for President and not locked up in Guantanamo!

Discrimination is alive and well in America too where the new "black" is the "muslim". Just listen to the bigots accuse Obama of being one or even worse an Arab which is overt racism.

You need to lock up these hateful violent anti american losers. They are the terrorists because they are terrifying the other citizens with their threats of violence. So goddamn stupid they can't even see they are the problem. Idiots!

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» RE: Strange change since 9/11. Posted by: pjnaltykins
» There was no real unity after 9/11. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
Dang!
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 11, 2008 5:07 AM   
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Did they escape from the trailer park again?

This is why we need to build electric fences around those things.

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» RE: Dang! Posted by: PrinceRobert
» RE: Dang! Posted by: Fetchcat
» RE: Dang! Posted by: Lauren
» To be honest... Posted by: kepstein7777
Devolution
Posted by: DeaconJ on Oct 11, 2008 6:51 AM   
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Clear Channel and Rupert Murdoch Media have succeeded in stupifying a cross section of the public. This can only be by design to bring down America to a 3rd world status.

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» RE: Devolution Posted by: rhinojos
Say it at your Rallies....We'll Be saying in a Courtroom
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 11, 2008 7:15 AM   
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So Mac's zealots are Working on another 'Bridge to Nowhere', We are building one From the Economic meltDown right to Mac's Front Door! From Keating to Enron to Phil Gramm as his 'economic advisor' Our Construction is near completed, and it will rest when the Words 'Treason' and 'Terrorist' are spoken at McCains Sentencing hearing.
These terms have no real direction nor strength when spewed by the Koolaid Drinking Mac supports...but they will have when incorporated into the foundation of a case of 40 yrs of Unamerican Activites which hav eled Us not only to the economic insecurity & threa twe face, but also to th eprecipating factors (deregulation and an Illegal Invasion)
Oh Johnny boy the attempt to tap down the full impact of those Words by Repetition, will fail. It not only has made it easier for US to allow them to Roll off our tongues, and you may feel their real impact.
Call Obama a terrorist because of a tangental association, and we'll use it regarding Mac's Aid and Comfort to those '80's 'Afghani Freedom Fighters'.Call Obama a 'Traitor' and we will point to PHIL GRAMM and the Destruction he & Mac have caused to the Very Founation of our Country- Our Economic Security!
So Keep going McCainites, You just make it easier for Me to utter those Unthinkable Acts of betrayal against McCain. I don't want to just destroy Mac's run for the WH, I want to Destroy his falsified record and Ultimately his Legacy in the History Books!

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LOL
Posted by: tRANIS on Oct 11, 2008 7:34 AM   
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OMg. Refuse his questions unless they are in writing.
Wow.

/suspension of disbelief

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» obviously ReichWingers believe Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
If you don't like the country WHEN Obama becaomes President
Posted by: aalif ba ta tha on Oct 11, 2008 7:54 AM   
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then leave.

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Wow! It almost makes me ashamed to admit ...
Posted by: wildbill on Oct 11, 2008 8:51 AM   
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...that I'm a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant myself! Where did so much hatred, fear, ignorance, and bigotry come from, in people who have been pretty much on top of the world all their lives?

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» Almost?????. Posted by: EJW
» Maybe it came from your Protestantism. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
» RE: how the hell? Posted by: Lauren
Amerikan'ts!!
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 9:30 AM   
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Just sent a email with this video attached to someone who one accused me of misunderstanding people like those in the videos and insisted they were merely salt of the earth!

Amerikan'ts like these are the reason I sold everything I had in Amerika at a loss and moved to the opposite side of the planet!

I'd rather die than ever return to Amerika and have to live next to and listen to Amerikan'ts!

My only disappointment is Amerika hasn't collapsed under its considerable BS yet!

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» RE: Let us not lose hope Posted by: PakiBoy
» RE: Let us not lose hope Posted by: bosunj
» RE: In our monetary system, money is debt Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» Rather cowardly.... Posted by: EJW
» RE: ather cowardly.... Posted by: bosunj
» RE: Rather cowardly.... Posted by: bosunj
» Cowardly indeed. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
» RE: Cowardly indeed. Posted by: bosunj
the same hate speech can be heard in liberal MA
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Oct 11, 2008 10:11 AM   
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Just turn on the local right-wing radio station 96.9FM.

Severin, Graham et al are spewing the sam bigotry.

Many of my co-workers (especially those from NH) are McCain-Palin supporters.

I'm in high-tech so all of these McCain supporters are college educated with post graduate degrees.

Bigotry among a significant white population is as American as apple pie.

DISCLAIMER: I'm biracial (white Jewish mother and Indian father).

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shameful
Posted by: pjnaltykins on Oct 11, 2008 10:11 AM   
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I shouldn't be surprised, but still am. Look at these nutjobs on parade....

This is all very, very dangerous. They should be ashamed of themselves. These people sound like they're going to a KLAN rally!

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» RE: shameful Posted by: pjnaltykins
Time to invoke Fairness Doctrine and ban the spread of hate speach on public airwaves
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Oct 11, 2008 10:15 AM   
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These idiots are kept ignorant by the right wing media on a steady diet of lies and bigotry.

It is time that Fairness Doctrine is revived and public ariwaves to provide balanced and objective news and analysis.

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Its probably all Barack Obamas fault that these
Posted by: chabuka on Oct 11, 2008 10:20 AM   
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people are so stupid...right!? You couldn't tell that they had attended school in in a communist or a fascist country, they speak the American English very well, with little foreign accent

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You know what's fuuny?
Posted by: pjnaltykins on Oct 11, 2008 10:25 AM   
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Well not funny... but very interesting indeed. Democrats (aka Liberals, ooo) can get arrested for having peaceful demonstrations (remember the RNC), citing the enemy combatants crap, but these fringe lunatics can spew hatred, calls to kill, etc., and no one even escorts them out, much less tasers or teargasses them. WTF!

Very interesting. These people are the REAL "enemy combatants". Why are they not being harrassed and contained by police?

This tacet approval is getting very very creepy. This is sounding an awful lot like the lead-up to Nazi occupation.

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» RE: You know what's fuuny? Posted by: bosunj
this is how Karma works
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 11, 2008 10:25 AM   
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even if Obama is elected, his administration will be hampered by republicans in the Congress by frivolous investigation and obstrction.

And these people will almost certainly try to go after Obama's life.

This is how karma works America: you have been electing war-criminals for generations who have destroyed countries that did no harm to you. Now your own actions are destroying you.

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» RE: this is how Karma works Posted by: pjnaltykins
» Investigation and obstruction Posted by: kepstein7777
This has to be staged - nobody is that STUPID!
Posted by: falseflagusa on Oct 11, 2008 10:26 AM   
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As much as I love free-lance video, this has to be staged somehow, nobody is THAT stupid, not even Strongville Ohio residents. Please tell me this isn't true, somebody, anybody?

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You can find ignorant nutter butters in every crowd
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Oct 11, 2008 10:44 AM   
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If some of the lead voices on the right didn't refer to Obama as a terrorist or try to make that connection again and again their sheeple supporters wouldn't think of him as a terrorist.

People are scared right now for their economic future thanks to the massive fear mongering by our leaders and the media sparked off by Bush who ironically has called for less fear mongering even though he has been the main source of it.

They want leaders to line up behind to follow because they do not know what is going on.

People are dumb and as much as I hate to admit it Nick Rockefeller was probably right when he said that only a few people can live truly free lives, the people at large need to be led.

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Wow. What a contrast to Obama Rally
Posted by: rhibowman on Oct 11, 2008 10:54 AM   
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A few weeks ago I stood in a line for an Obama rally in Charlotte, NC, and commented several times about how peaceful the line was-- especially considering that we knew we wouldn't get in; the venue was full but the line, still more than a mile long, stood quietly outside in a show of support. I blogged about the day here (photo included).

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scobra
Posted by: scobra on Oct 11, 2008 11:41 AM   
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a bunch of fat stupid americans who know next to nothing about anything.

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The McCalinites
Posted by: Mikediane on Oct 11, 2008 2:13 PM   
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are all riled up. It's like going back to the 60's: get a job, get a haircut. The bush Group has done an excellent job of terrorizing these idiots who now are terrifying in their obscene stupidity. And there seems to be alot of them! No wonder the Group has Scarah dropping "g's" and you betchaing every thing to death. I saw a video of her debating for the governorship and there was none of that.

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The McStalin and Mooselini crowd
Posted by: shanaza on Oct 11, 2008 3:14 PM   
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are enough to scare the crap out of me. It is very depressing. Did I hear it wrong or did someone at the McCain event say "kike" ... it certainly sounds like it.

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Truly terrifying
Posted by: Glasgow Smile on Oct 11, 2008 3:23 PM   
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McCain is so desperate to achieve his dream of elitist white privilege that he is willing to sink to the tactics of planting seeds of hatred in this ignorant mass's collective pea-sized brain.

All of these people seem to be in fear of losing their status as the privileged white majority to some xenophobic "other" who's coming in the form of an educated African American man.

The brownshirts are coming out of the woodwork. Watching this feels like seeing a Nazi rally aftermath. I have never felt so deeply ashamed of people like this in this country. Being so ignorant that they would buy into this empty rhetoric is really tragic.

I just watched a film about the "democracy" of ancient Athens, how it was basically rule by the elitist free male citizens of Athens who controlled women and a vast slave population. They destroyed their city by continually voting for more imperialist wars to plunder other city-states. Obviously the lessons of history have been lost.

"They Thought They Were Free" indeed.

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» RE: Truth verifying Posted by: Lauren
Just like Goebbels said...
Posted by: QuestionAuthority on Oct 11, 2008 3:31 PM   
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He said that if lies are said often enough and loud enough, they become the truth for the hearers. It was the technique of the "Big Lie." I think we can safely say that Savage, Limbaugh, et. al., have done a good job of spreading their lies and hate.

I fear for the future of this country. I expect that if Obama is elected (in spite of all the above, including the electronic and manual vote tampering that undoubtedly will occur), the Republicans will spend his entire term obstructing everything that he tries to do. Then they will run against him, claiming that he is "ineffective."

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Americanism
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 3:46 PM   
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Americanism is defined as: narcissism, greed, hyper-individualism, consumerism, capitalism, corporatism, faux democracy, media whoredom, asphyxiation of the Left, Christian fundamentalism, Mammon worship, moral retardation, militarism, imperialism, celebrity worship, wars on drugs and terrorism, prison industrial complex, mean-spiritedness, self-absorption, American exceptionalism, bullying, anti-intellectualism and the abandonment of many uninsured and homeless in the wealthiest nation on earth.

Congratulations! You made it!!

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» RE: Americanism Posted by: Lauren
Capitalism
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 3:53 PM   
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Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.
~ John Maynard Keynes

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"Christian Nation"
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 3:54 PM   
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In the "Christian" nation of the United States, cursed are the peacemakers, for they insult our egos and wound our pride. Blessed are the warmakers, for they spice up our picnics and our parades and our talk radio. For peace, we will rely instead on nuclear missiles that could kill millions in a flash, and even name them "The Peacekeeper [MX] missile". May God Bless Our Military. May God Bless Our Prosperity and Our Wealth. May God Bless Our Kingdom and Our Power and Our Glory. And may God Save Us from Christians like Jimmy Carter and shower us with Christians like George W. Bush.

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Democracy
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 3:56 PM   
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Monarchy degenerates into tyranny, aristocracy into oligarchy, and democracy into savage violence and chaos.
~ Polybius

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Modern Conservative
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 4:09 PM   
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The modern conservative is engaged in one man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
~ John K. Galbraith

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Nationalism
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 4:10 PM   
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The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
~ George Orwell

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Racketeer for Capitalism
Posted by: bosunj on Oct 11, 2008 4:14 PM   
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I spent thirty-three years in the marines, most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.
~ General Smedley Butler, Marine

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There are just as many...
Posted by: Tim Chadron on Oct 11, 2008 4:37 PM   
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people who represent the left just as poorly, as these clowns represent the right. Ignorance knows no party. In fact, the vast majority of people in this country are woefully ignorant of their government, no matter their party affiliation.

I agree that many on the right are poisoned by the likes of O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, but many on the left are poisoned by apathy, the MSM babble, and other such nefarious sources.

Looking at this race, what I believe is this. We don't really know Jack about either of these guys. We never will either until there are real publicly funded debates that include 3rd party candidates. (for one example) Each side right now is doing what they think they need to do to win, and neither is saying much in the way of being substantive at all.

FInally, I think this type of video has no place in any serious news outlet. The questions asked were poor, the way they were presented was worse yet, and the answers reflect poorly on all of us, progressive or conservative. It is purely sensationalized "journalism" at its worst.

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» RE: There are just as many... Posted by: helenahanbasquet
This video is hubristic base rallying.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Oct 11, 2008 5:24 PM   
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It's just an effort to rile up the progressive base by appealing to their hatred of lower-class whites.

Most likely Obama will win, but you have to be careful with these kinds of tactics.

Also, these kinds of tactics maintain the status quo of overlordship by corporations and business leaders. No truly socialist agenda can come to fruition without the support of working-class whites, who are the majority in this country. In fifty years, this may not be the case, but without overhauling our economic and political systems soon, this country will be wrecked long before fifty years pass.

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» ...beg your pardon? Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
» RE: very serious psychosis Posted by: bosunj
The Long & Winding Road
Posted by: bessie on Oct 11, 2008 7:46 PM   
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Looking back at history - it was a lot worse. When I was young, I remembered seeing signs for "colored people" in the South and wondering what that meant. People with crayons? Back then, too, it wasn't unusual for any white person to loudly declare their racism as a badge of honor. Later, I was called a lot of names because I went to an integrated school. It's still awful & heartbreaking to see people consumed with their hatred, fear, and stupidity. But society, the majority, is moving on beyond a lot of the restrictions of the past. In MHO, education is key and that's a real problem as most schools are poorly staffed , boring, and out of date. I'd like to think that a lot of these people would rather have options that don't include being so filled with hatred and stupidity. That being said, I have a real problem with national figures who deliberately feed this hatred. And of course, these are the very national figures who never offer anything else like health insurance, improvement in education, scholarships, or decent paying jobs for their followers. What's interesting now, with all of our economic problems, is how the ties between the rich corporate leaders and their racist, ignorant followers will be broken.

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Obama win vs. McCain win
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 11, 2008 10:18 PM   
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If Obama wins, may be, just may be, he will turn back on his Wall St sponsors and usher in a new New Deal era.

On the other hand, if McCain wins, Grover Norquist's dream of drowning the Federal goverment to death through debt will finally come true.

The basic protections of Social Security, Medicare-Medicaid, right to privacy (including abortion), regulation of various industries, would be all found only in history books.

Mostly likely, Obama win will simply delay the destruction of the Evil Empire while a McCain win will expedite the destruction.

I'm rooting for McCain:)

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The last card, they are saving it for later, black theology vs invisibility
Posted by: Lauren on Oct 12, 2008 7:39 AM   
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I thought perhaps it was the Reverend's message to the press that stirred them up.

He is very defensive in his manner which is off putting, talking about something a lot of reporters did not want to hear.

He had a standing ovation from the crowd before he started speaking. I guess they were his friends because the real press was not so pleased. He was defensive over being attacked.

Why was the press so defensive?

Was it from a guilty conscience over misleading the American people or was it from defending a world view based on denying other people's basic reality?

By the time the press conference was over they were ready to eat him alive. And they did.

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Holy Crap some of my fellow white people are stupid
Posted by: DrSteve on Oct 12, 2008 10:42 PM   
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The not so bright racist wing of the republican party is having a fit because it really looks like Obama might win this thing.Get ready for four more years of these fools. The republican Party is reaping what it has sowed....a generation after the Southern Strategy and they have become the last refuge for these dinosaurs. I left the party in the 80's when their fiscal irresponsibility along with their disdain for working and poor folks along with the rise of the religious wingnuts power grip on the party made it impossible for moderates to belong. We now see a party that breeds overt racism, modern day McCarthyism, and practically revels in prideful ignorance. America is becoming more diverse by the day ...a good thing.... and the GOP is presenting its most ugly underbelly in response.I find it phenomenal in these videos just how deeply stupid these people are. Hey if you are a conservative and disagree with Obama on policy, etc thats cool....that's what the process is all about. But these people are morons cranked up on melon head Hannity/drug addict Limbaugh radio rants.

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Depths of stupidity
Posted by: ghoster on Oct 13, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Well this shows that the USA ain't number one for nothing. This crowd of knuckle dragging slack jawed mouth breathers actually are americans. Well no one is perfect except them, perfectly ignorant. Damn this really makes me fear for america when these folks are let loose. Like one poster said, put electric fences around the trailer parks if that is where these clowns reside. No offense to trailer parks they are necessary I reckon.

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