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Debate Analysis: McCain Acted Like a Jerk

Posted by DJK, Brave New Films at 11:44 AM on September 27, 2008.


McCain's demeanor during Friday's debate.

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Those of you who have read my posts in the past know that I can be as wonky and policy-oriented as anyone. But what really struck me most about the first presidential debate was this:

John McCain acted like a jerk.

Not once did McCain look Barack Obama in the eye. That's right — John McCain refused to even look at Obama, a man who is making an historic bid to become the next president of the United States. Say what you will about Obama, but I don't think anyone believes that he does not deserve eye contact once in 90 minutes.

McCain was dismissive and derisive. He treated Obama with disdain and condescension. He was smug, arrogant, and patronizing. He simply refused to take Obama seriously. And he repeatedly smirked, giggled, snickered and mocked.

This isn't a fucking joke. It really isn't.

This is about our lives, and the lives of our families, our children, our grandchildren and everyone we love. The lives of billions of people around the world, and literally all life on this planet. But John McCain grins and snickers as if it were Scary Movie 3, not a country and world that seems to get scarier by the day.

Giggling and smirking and not taking important people and issues seriously — remind you of anyone? McCain's behavior did not make him seem presidential. It made him seem like George W. Bush. Only older. Much older. And old enough to know better.


It was disturbing to witness. Remember, the subject of the debate was foreign policy. If this is the way McCain treats a man who may be the next president of the United States, how would he treat foreign leaders whose countries are increasingly interconnected with ours? Would he also refuse to acknowledge their presence when he is standing right next to them? Would he ridicule their values and treat them like children as they share their thoughts on what makes a nation great?

In contrast Barack Obama was polite and respectful — many would say to a fault. When he thought that McCain was right about something or that they agreed on an issue, he was not afraid to admit it. When he disagreed with McCain, he was firm and direct. And when McCain lied about Obama's positions, Obama was sharp and forceful. But he was never a jerk.

Obama recognizes that he and McCain are in the same tough business, and that it takes more than luck to stay in it for as long as McCain has. So, despite their differences and the way the McCain campaign has treated him, Obama treats McCain with respect. And I respect that. But I have little respect for someone like McCain, who appears incapable of even acknowledging a talented, intelligent, formidable upstart even when he is standing a few feet from him.  

Once again, look at this through the lens of foreign policy. Obama showed that he is someone who can listen and engage, even when he disagrees. Someone who knows that serious people should be taken seriously and not be snickered at or painted as caricatures, even if you think they are fundamentally wrong. Someone who knows that your opponents deserve respect, and that looking them in the eye and acknowledging their presence shows strength and confidence, not weakness.

One commenter on Digg noted that not only was it Obama who crossed the stage after the debate to shake McCain's hand, but he returned with Michelle Obama when Cindy McCain joined her husband onstage. That's what you would call class.

McCain and the Republicans can pretend they won the debate because McCain kept repeating that Obama "didn't understand" the issues and treated Obama like uneducated, "uppity" hired help. But with the way McCain acted during the debate, it was clear that John McCain clearly doesn't understand how to act like a president. And Barack Obama does.

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Tagged as: debate, barack obama, john mccain, 2008 election

Jonathan Kim blogs under the name DJK. He is a Co-Producer at Brave New Films. He co-produces the Fox Attacks series and blogs for the bravenewfilms.org and foxattacks.com websites.


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Posted by: kclaf on Sep 27, 2008 12:32 PM   
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Those are exactly my thoughts on last night's debate. It certainly allowed McCain to show his total disrespect for intelligence, thoughtfulness and dignity. I had to stop watching as I was quite angry with McCain's behavior (very childish) and the complete disrespect of America that he displayed. I was insulted by that and for his lack of understanding of the issues as they were presented. He was definitely upstaged by the knowledgeable Obama, and that I believe is why he kept repeating that nonsensical phrase "he doesn't understand", when it was perfectly clear who understood perfectly.

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» RE: Thank you Posted by: revjmike
You know what he reminded me of...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Sep 27, 2008 2:31 PM   
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In high school there were a few boys who always seemed to think they were better than others... Usually because they had more money that other boys, or girls for that matter. McCain's silent disdainful smirk coupled with his dismissive head wagging was a clear indicator of where he comes from and where thinks he stands with regard to Obama. Not only Obama, but the world as a whole. Little wonder he choose Palin for a running mate, they both seem cut from the same cloth.

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Smug because he knows...
Posted by: kiel on Sep 27, 2008 7:23 PM   
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...no matter how badly he would screw up the country as president, he wouldn't live long enough to have to suffer through the consequences. Just like Reagan before him, old man McSame doesn't care what he says or does, because he knows he'll be long dead before his tragic mistakes bring the country down. Reagan was half-gone before he left office (Alzheimer's Disease), and McSame looks to be on the same path toward dementia.

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? McCain is a jerk..?
Posted by: jim's op/ed on Sep 27, 2008 7:28 PM   
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What we have here is a delusional and snotty excuse for a senator who seems to be out of touch with reality and normal people as well.

He does not play well with the other kids(reaching across the isle).
His lack of knowledge on economics is very telling and he seems very limited on foreign policy but man o man does he talk war.
mmmm...Can you say McBush?

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» RE: ? McCain is a jerk..? Posted by: lywog
So basically..
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 27, 2008 7:45 PM   
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McCain was dismissive and derisive. He treated Obama with disdain and condescension. He was smug, arrogant, and patronizing. He simply refused to take Obama seriously. And he repeatedly smirked, giggled, snickered and mocked.

kinda like how we behave towards Palin then?

Look, Obama did well in the debate and McCain got a few punches in too. McCain came across as confident of his understanding of places like Georgia and Pakistan, and managed to apply some good old fashioned fear, uncertainty, and doubt towards Obama's abilities in those areas. Obama was forced to use a "lifeline" by mentioning Biden. McCain did not mention Palin a single time, and he was wise not to. He's a cranky, crazy old man, but he performed well in my opinion. Don't let the personal bias for "your guy" over-ride what actually happened on the stage.

dboy

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» McCain did so mention Sarah! Posted by: rancespergl
» Are you for real! Posted by: chuckjs
» RE: So basically.. Posted by: Lauren
» Nice comment Dboy! Posted by: chuckjs
» My point is... Posted by: Dboy
» RE: So basically.. Posted by: helenwheels
McStain behaved as I see most Republics
Posted by: Quannah on Sep 27, 2008 10:42 PM   
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behave when in front of the crowds and cameras. It's an air of entitlement, an air of superiority, and an air of inevitability that they all seem to share... McStain believes that, because of his superiority, he is entitled to be the next president... that it is inevitable. And Obama is the only obstacle.

It is this twisted view of himself in the world that made it easy for him to treat Obama with complete and utter disdain, derision and condescension.

I cannot picture a world in which this egomaniacal Ronnie Reagan wannabe is the president of this nation, with Malamute Barbie as Veep. If it happens, it won't be my country anymore.

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CNN, reliable sources (yeah right)
Posted by: Lauren on Sep 28, 2008 7:48 AM   
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Howie K didn't know witches had anything to do with this election. He got two bitches to agree with him, the Wiccain vote is really tiny. Ha ha ha.

Howie Kurtz is in denial. Republican flacks will go along with that forever.

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McCain acted like my 14 year old daughter...
Posted by: chuckjs on Sep 28, 2008 7:52 AM   
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when we are debating an increase in her priveledges due to an increase in age.

But does she ever make the same faces and snide rude remarks whenever I make points she doesn't agree with. And like McCain she won't wait for her turn to point out that I was or was not correct. She just butts in and calls names!

It is childish to the extreme. But it still does not excuse Obama for lying about McCain's statement. He never did say he would not meet with the Prime Minister of Spain. Go back an listen to the interview again. He is so vague and rhetorical he never actually answers the question. He makes himself look weak in foriegn policy since he either does not know who the Prime Minister of Spain is or does not know where Spain is located.

For all you Obama fans out there why wasn't Obama beating McCains head against the wall using this interview to disprove McCains claims of superior foriegn policy experience instead of lying to score a few cheap political points. The foriegn policy angle would have damaged McCain far more than the lie that was told. Jesse Wedel has another great blog entry on here refering to General Clarke creaming McCain on his foreign policy experience. What is Obamas problem with that? Does he want to lose.

It's not media bias that is allowing McCain to poll stronger. It is Obamas reluctance to attack McCains strengths, when he is handed that chance, which is causing that.

Obama may be the best choice of the two candidates but he is far from using the best choice of strategy!

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I can't resist
Posted by: QQOblivion on Sep 28, 2008 7:56 AM   
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Stated: McCain acted like a jerk during the debates.


Well then, he must be going for women's votes!...


Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's okay, rate my post down.

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Indeed, McLame really doesn't respect anyone
Posted by: helenwheels on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM   
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The fact that McLame is cynical and reckless enough to select Ms. Mooseburger as his running mate tells you about all you need to know about how selfish, nasty and condescending this man truly is.

Think about what contempt he must have for the country and its people by selecting Palin. Really. Someone without enough smarts to even get through a soft-ball interview. This is who he thinks its fine to put in the oval office one heartbeat away from the presidency. This bible-thumping, belligerent, know-nothing nut is who McLame thinks is GOOD for this country.

That's part of the cynicism and condescention. The other part is that McLame selected this woman because she is a woman. His response to Hillary's popularity was to select an anti-feminist, anti-woman's rights disaster of a candidate without adequate experience, schooling or intelligence. And that's because McLame thinks all women are the same. This is no different from the bigot who lumps all people of one ethnicity together. It's insulting and wrong.

I think McLame is actually worse than the shrub, and that's saying quite a lot.

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hidden race baiting tactics
Posted by: fisher on Sep 28, 2008 8:28 PM   
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McCain's talking heads are saying that his campaign consciously decided to not look at Obama, i.e., that it was intentional, and presumably done for a purpose. Could the purpose be to activate latent racial bias among southerners?

Maybe, but it is also possible the talking heads are lying as usual to cover up for another McCain goof. Maybe McCain couldn't help himself. Maybe he isn't comfortable in a position of equality with a black man and couldn't force himself to face him.

I noticed that McCain was looking at the podium a lot of the time. Did he have notes there? He might have been ignoring what Obama was saying so he could psych himself up for another emotional plea to love him. McCain rarely responded to Obama except under his breath in a few instances where he seemed to be exploding inside. Instead he invented his own fantasy of what Obama said and then let fly the usual lies.

Anyway, it wasn't McCain's failure to look at Obama that interested me. It was the smirking and grimacing. Does McCain have some kind of nervous condition? I am concerned that he is breaking down. The droopy eye, the periodic slurring, the eccentric and inappropriate behavior and decision making. Maybe McCain is hitting the wall.

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» RE: hidden race baiting tactics Posted by: peacefullaim
Is McCain Faking his 'crippled body'?
Posted by: no-fool on Sep 28, 2008 8:43 PM   
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I couldn't help but notice that when McCain was introducing Palin and her family - his back was all twisted up and one shoulder was six inches higher than the other. Thanks to the wonders of the internet you can go back and look for yourselves. Now, a week later, suddenly he has been miraculously cured! Hey folks, anyone who fakes a disability to get sympathy is a phony. It is my opinion that this guy's 'injuries' have been faked all along, it certainly hasn't hurt his career. Another point I wish everyone would take seriously is a law to make LYING a criminal offence. McCain and Bush would be sitting in a jail cell, along with most of the media and 98% of the government. Was it Mark Twain who said "A Lie can get halfway around the world, while the truth is still getting it's shoes on"? Till next time, Peace and Justice.

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And Obama acted like a 'nice' student debating his teacher!
Posted by: F-Abdolian on Sep 29, 2008 3:30 AM   
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I am not American, so I do not have the love/hate relationship to the candidates, but I was utterly disappointed at Obama's performance.

I was expecing a man who would trash McCain, the idiot who does not even remembers how many houses he has or when was the last time he had sex with his wife :)

But instead, Obama keeps defending himself, trying to 'agree' with McCain and in some really sad cases, even trying the childish act of, oh I have a "bracelet too", mine is shiny and has colors on it kind of reaction.

Sure, McCain lied, again and again an again, but Obama should have called the lies for what they are. But he didn't, instead he really reminded me of a kid trying to show he is as important and 'knowledgeable' as the old man, without insulting the idiot. But, instead he studdered A LOT, was in-coherent and in some cases nervous and 'afraid'.

I really really really hoped to see a strong man crushing McCain in front of millions of TV viewers all over the world, but instead I saw a man who is really afraid of punching an old fool and wants to say polite and 'nice' at all time.

Maybe nice is good when you are growing up and being a student, but 'nice' is not good when you want to show the world that you are the leader of the sole super power on this planet. Specially since you at the same time talk about 'taking on Pakistan' and 'dealing with Iran' at the same time and using the same stupid language and lies that the neo cons are using.

I am sure a lot of people will get mad at these comments, but I am really afraid if Obama does not change his debating techniques, we will have an old fool and a christian-female-Mullah-Omar in charge of your government.

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» Those who follow Posted by: TruthBeTold
What debate did you watch?
Posted by: disfasia on Sep 29, 2008 6:26 AM   
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I totally disagree with this review of the debate. I think the writer spent too much time obsessing over McCain and did not notice Obama who, at each critique from McCain scoffed, laughed or grinned. Both men had the job to look like the other's critiques were untrue and their faces--both of their faces--showed this.

I am quite disappointed by the partisanship here towards Obama. He did not come off well at all in this debate: he could hardly defend his position on anything and went along with the conservative bailout on the economy.

Honestly, McCain and Obama are so similar in their fighting points that it is not surprising that the debate was boring and only reinforces why those with truly progressive ideals interested in changing the political scene ought to vote for Nader...or any other third party candidate for that matter.

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» Hits-of-grasses Posted by: schiffer
X-POLYGAMIST WIFE in ARIZONA
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Sep 29, 2008 6:45 AM   
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McCain acted like a jerk because he is a jerk.

Watch the video:

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McCain is dangerous for this country -
Posted by: Gibsongirl on Sep 29, 2008 7:34 AM   
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First of all, McCain won't say in the debates what his formula is for this country - he knows better than that, because, if he should come right out and say he's going to scuttle Social Security and require each to buy stocks, mutual funds, or whatever for their individual retirement he knows he'd be in deep do-do with the public! But that is his plan, and he further plans to tax Medicare insurance for each individual, plus tax health insurance costs paid by the company for each individual! McCain is definitely against ANY help for the middle class - if you read much about him you'll read this for yourself! He married a very rich woman and he honestly doesn't have a clue what it's like to work for a living! He uses his prison experience as qualifications to be President, but he did not lay in that cell in the Hanoi Hilton thinking about presidential responsibilities - like the other prisoners there he thought about the next time the guards would open the door and when or how he would ever get out of there! I totally understand that - I don't know if I could live through it - but that's not learning about presidential duties and responsibilities! I do not believe he's qualified to be President, and I do not believe his running mate is qualified to be President! His $5,000 surgery on his face makes him look better on that side, but it also shows a lot of vanity on his part! His father and grandfather were admirals in the Navy, and he skated through Annapolis on their reputation - barely making it through - he ranked fifth FROM THE BOTTOM in his class of eight hundred and some! Fifth??? My God! We'd simply give a certificate of attendance to our students who were that low compared to the rest of the graduating class - we'd certainly NEVER promate them to the top job in the district, let alone the top job in the country! We shouldn't vote for someone who's primary selling point is that he suffered greatly in Vietnam - we should vote for intelligence and ability to lead the greatest nation around the globe!!!!!!!!!

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McCain said Horse Shit twice during the debate!
Posted by: F-Abdolian on Sep 29, 2008 8:22 AM   
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This is a nice catch!
I am not sure if it is real or not, since I did not have access to the original video, but it is interesting that no one in the main stream media captured this:

Video of McCain saying Horeshit twice while Obama is talking on Youtube

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Why McC avoided eye contact
Posted by: gregii on Sep 29, 2008 9:11 AM   
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I am surprised that no one in this forum has mentioned this body language tactic.

It is well known that by withholding eye contact you are denying the existence of the other person.

This tactic has a derailing impact on the dialogue of the other person. Teenagers know this instinctively. It is very challenging to construct your responses explaining your abstract ideas in a dialogue with someone who won't look at you or interact with you - hence the parental command heard in so many homes where teenagers reside: "Look at me when I'm talking to you!" Obviously McCain has advisors with teenagers at home.

It is manipulative, intellectually dishonest, immature, and often an effective distraction.

I watched Obama throughout the debate to see what affect it might have on him. I was impressed with his personal stoicism - he hung in there and persisted and constructed his ideas presentably despite lacking an intelligent, intellectually honest, give-and-take debating partner. Yes, I thought at moments he seemed a bit distracted by the ploy. Not nearly so much as I would have been - I would have probably wanted to call attention to it - and identify it for what it was, had this happened to me. Obviously, Barack Obama does not need John McCains's affirmations to know that he is alive and has something worthwhile to say.

In an unanticipated backfire of the strategy, owing to his failure to look at Obama, McCain also deprived himself of what he withheld from Obama - and hurt his own contributions to the debate. He lacked continuity, spontaneity and authenticity. He only seemed authentic when discussing his POW experiences - and his political experiences from two decades ago. But one must consider the practice he has had discussing these in front of audiences the last two years, unable and unwilling as he is to discuss the substantive issues of this campaign.

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That's right!
Posted by: sheena2u on Sep 29, 2008 1:02 PM   
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Senator Obama is a gentleman, an educated man, and a nice person. Senator Obama knew what he was talking about, and he had so much confidence in himself, and his position, that he was secure enough to stick to answering the questions, and to let McCain's absurd attacks, and childish behavior go "un-noticed."

At the end, Barack and Michelle crossed the stage, and Michelle extended her hand first to Cindy McCain who just stood there like a lump, and it was Barack who graciously extended his hand to the McCains. In every possible way it was the Obamas who looked regal, well-bred, and Presidential, and it was the McCains who looked pompous, stiff, and clueless.

People may claim that McCain prevailed because "he got in so many jabs," and Lehrer repeatedly let him have the last word, but I say that means nothing. He may have repeatedly said "Senator Obama does not understand..." and "Senator Obama is naive..." but those slurs did not resonate with anyone other than die-hard McCain fans. The rest of us know that making an unsubstantiated, arrogant, patronizing claim does not make it so - and it particularly loses steam when the person is right there, and obviously knows what they are talking about and can articulate it calmly and eloquently.

McCain made himself look like the fool that he is. He mis-pronounced an important leader's name, ranted about irrelevant rubbish like the height of Koreans, and he continually wasted time by going on at length with claims and accusations that Obama had just successfully countered and refuted.

McCain was rude, ignorant, and extremely childish by making all sorts of facial gymnastics, and fidgeting erratically, while Senator Obama was talking. I don't know how Senator Obama managed to remain so calm, so patient, and so much in-control in the face of such shenanigans and such obtuseness and redundancy from McCain, but Senator Obama deserves the highest respect and kudos for pulling it off with style and grace.

McCain looked down, and then acted like he had just woken up from a nap, and couldn't wait to share the joke, and then started nearly jumping. His behavior was completely bizarre! McCain stood and stared, and made self-conscious mocking faces, and looked several times as though he was trying to make something out on the horizon....perhaps the calvary coming to save him? In any case, the facial tics and the smirks, and the drama-queen facial and bodily gymnastics were all done at the same time that Senator Obama was talking and making a significant point, and it was in the extreme of childishness, disrespect, and loutish behavior on McCain's part!

Obama comported himself like a statesman, a great and humble man, and an honorable President. Obama often looked at McCain, and behaved like a reasonable, mature, and respectable leader. McCain behaved like a spoiled, nasty little childish troll who was suffering from grandiose ideas of himself as superior, entitled, and "qualified."

McCain made corny and insulting jokes about KGB, tall Koreans, and being ready to rule on day one without "on the job training." He had the poor judgment to call Senator Obama "inflexible" when it is McCain himself is the king of stiffs . There was nothing whatsoever Presidential about McCain. He was rude, redundant, devoid of common courtesy, and a total bonehead.

Senator Obama won that debate hands-down on the basis of substance, style, and grace. If Senator Obama can handle a temperamental, arrogant, drama-queen like McCain, he deserves to be our next President because he will deal with world leaders with the same respect, patience, and calm assertiveness, and that will increase America's security, re-establish our prestige in the world, and it would enhance world peace and prosperity.

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