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About that "Republican revolt" over kangaroo courts and the Geneva Conventions

Posted by Joshua Holland at 1:10 PM on September 15, 2006.


Before getting too excited about GOP "moderates" taking on the preznit, take a look at their draft.

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Normal people, people opposed to torture and illegal detentions, seem pretty jazzed that Republican Sens McCain, Warner and Graham are finally standing up for the rule of law and against the president.

And it is certainly a good thing that a measure obviously designed to trap Dems into, as the righty blogs are putting it, "defending terrorists' rights," is being opposed by elder GOP statesmen like Warner and McCain, not to mention the ever-popular Colin Powell.

But it would be nice if reporters would dig a bit deeper before declaring that these Republican stalwarts are fighting for the rule of law and the highest of American ideals.

That's the narrative: Bush wants to water down the Geneva conventions and wide leeway to prosecute suspects in what are effectively kangaroo courts, and he's facing a "revolt" in his party over the issue. But consider the bill that Warner, McCain and Graham are supporting. Here's a PDF, and here's the highlights courtesy of Obsidian wings:


  • It would eliminate the right of any alien who is in US custody outside the US, or who "has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant", to file for habeas corpus.


  • It would eliminate the right of any such alien to take any legal action against "the United States or its agents" concerning the conditions of his or her detention, other than to appeal the results of Civilian Status Review Commissions or military tribunals.


  • Both of these provisions apply to all cases pending when the bill becomes law, which means that any of the cases currently wending their way through the legal system that haven't been resolved by that time become moot.


  • It changes the definition of war crimes: currently, any conduct that violates Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions counts as a war crime; the draft bill changes this to "a grave breach of common Article 3".


  • And it makes this paragraph from the Detainee Treatment Act applicable to any prosecution for war crimes involving violations of Common Article 3 after 9/11/2001:
"In any civil action or criminal prosecution against an officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent of the United States Government who is a United States person, arising out of the officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent's engaging in specific operational practices, that involve detention and interrogation of aliens who the President or his designees have determined are believed to be engaged in or associated with international terrorist activity that poses a serious, continuing threat to the United States, its interests, or its allies, and that were officially authorized and determined to be lawful at the time that they were conducted, it shall be a defense that such officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent did not know that the practices were unlawful and a person of ordinary sense and understanding would not know the practices were unlawful. Good faith reliance on advice of counsel should be an important factor, among others, to consider in assessing whether a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the practices to be unlawful."
Hilzoy at Obsidian Wings adds that this means: "if the government's lawyers said it was legal, and if a normal person would not have known that it wasn't legal, then the government and its agents can't be prosecuted for it."

This is, in short, a terrible bill. It's an improvement over the House bill favored by the administration, yes, but a terrible bill nonetheless. (The House bill, drafted by Duncan Hunter (R-CA), would allow evidence obtained by "coercive interrogations" to be admitted into military tribunals or "civilian status review commissions," and would deny defendants the right to challenge it if doing so impacted "national security.")

Let's all just understand that both bills redefine war crimes under article three of the Geneva Conventions, both start us down a slippery slope towards something quite ugly and both will, in Colin Powell's words, cause the world to "doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism."

Digg!

Joshua Holland is a staff writer at Alternet and a regular contributor to The Gadflyer.


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Josh, lay off the kangaroos, wouldja!
Posted by: HeroesAll on Sep 15, 2006 5:32 PM   
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Antipodean sensitivities aside, this issue really is more serious than most folks will think. The framing by Bush - the constant reiterations of "We have to have this or the programme will not go ahead" makes it sound like the entire anti-terrorism intelligence programme is being held hostage by this pending legislation. That's extremely naughty behaviour for a Prez, and I hope someone calls him on it.

Then there's the wrinkles as elucidated in your article, Josh. And the real scalpel in the sandwich is that most people either won't even bother to read the details, won't understand them, or won't think they matter. Of such moves is the slide into fascism made.

Interesting, though, the way Bush tries to turn everything into simple declaratives. A sly bit of legislation sidling around torture becomes the absolutely vital underpinning of the war on turr'r. Saddam Hussein is back as a buddy of al Qaeda, off and on during that press conference. And Bush is a good, honest, West Texan boy who wouldn't ever try to question the patriotism of anyone who opposes his legislation, no sirree.

Bletch. Excuse me, I feel I'm about to yunt.

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Any bets?
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 15, 2006 5:47 PM   
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If we could just lend Bush's lawyers to Sadam Hussein they'd spin him a coat of gold and get him off quicker than you can say O.J. But I expect a guilty verdict the last week in October.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiaitve.

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rationale?
Posted by: brad on Sep 15, 2006 5:59 PM   
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I am not sure if I am looking for something that dosn't exist (saskwatch may be easier to find than neocon reason), but what is the rationale behind getting torture legalized knowing that the vast majority of intelligence experts state that the info is unreliable? Is it to cover acts that have aready happened and save his own skin from the firing squad? Or, perhaps a political bait to show how weak dems won't water board? Is it so they can torture and get the fake intel they need to push invasions, like they did for Iraq? What?

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» RE: rationale? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: rationale? Posted by: sapatatanka
defining the battlefield
Posted by: donegill on Sep 16, 2006 5:51 AM   
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my guess is that president bush may, himself, have firm views on the issues raised in this internecine mess. i am concerned, though, that those around him cackle while we bay after the bait as if the substance of this issue made any difference at all. are we for or against bush? it cannot matter for his own account. does it keep as the sole issue before an electorate at t minus 8 weeks to elections the "war on terror " issue? absolutely. if i assume that GOP pols have only one trick and it to to side with or against the white house on the issue, they all win in their own little fiefdoms regardless of how they come down. it is machiavellian and, as long as we continue to push back, he and his handlers have defined the battlefield beautifully.

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We are the targets
Posted by: eurvater on Sep 16, 2006 6:41 AM   
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It is generally agreed by experts in interrogation that decent treatment of captives is more likely to glean useful information than draconian torture and abuse. If these methods are counter-productive to information gathering, why does the Bush regime insist on the need to rewrite international and domestic law to enable its torture regime? To be sure, they are trying to immunize themselves against prosecution. But beyond that, we are the real targets: scare the hell out of Americans who dissent. Make secret detentions, torture, disappearance a realistic possibility for all of us. They have enabled such activities in their own backyard by client regimes all over Latin America. Why not use the tactic here? Haul people off of planes because they appear on a "watch list," let them disappear into the black hole of our new justice system. Our middle eastern populations has been subjected to such treatment continuously since 9/11. Now its our turn. We are the real targets.

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» RE: We are the targets Posted by: mdruss42
Seen this movie before
Posted by: diogenes on Sep 16, 2006 11:06 AM   
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They must think we're all a bunch of complete morons, that we can't see what they're doing. So, for the benefit of those who still don't get it, what they do is start a diversionary argument, such as legalizing torture and providing an escape clause for the Chief War Criminal and all the other war criminals who were forced to obey his orders, in order to sneak in the back door a law that accomplishes the same thing, only not quite so blatantly.
It's the same thing they try to do when they want to sneak discrimination into the Constitution; you know, English language only, anti-same sex marriage, anti-desecration of the flag.
The U.S. Constitution is just fine the way it is. So, too, is the Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. We need a means of bringing these bastards to justice, and changes will prevent that.

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Ordinary Day
Posted by: robmikejas on Sep 16, 2006 1:41 PM   
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Today is an ordinary day, by any measure of 2006 reality. We are ruled by a man who cloaks himself in righteous indignation when the world doesn't spin according to his vision. We walk out into a morass of corporate abuse...of workers and consumers (one and the same). The constitution is weakened and threatened to be amended to shape our country into an intolerant, meanspirited place to call home. An Ordinary Day.

An Ordinary Day in the devolution of America in the time of George (Mr. Cheerleader) W. ( Mr. Business Failure) Bush ( Mr. War Criminal).

We live in Biblical times...times of great challenge and open threats to our Democracy. No rational man can fail to see that these are not Ordinary Times, even on an ordinary day.

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mdrus42
Posted by: mdruss42 on Sep 16, 2006 11:52 PM   
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Josuha, anyone in the world with an IQ above oysterhood has to doubt our motives in our war on terrorism.....since the head terrorists are long allies of the jokers who are our leaders.....so.

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