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Subway groping arrests on the rise

Posted by Deanna Zandt at 8:44 AM on June 27, 2006.


Is harassment really just "accepted subway culture?"

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The New York Times is reporting that the NYPD announced an increase in the numbers of arrests for subway groping and flashing -- 13 in total for the last week. As the Times points out, whenever a story like this gets published, the women who ride public transportation daily (especially subways) all over the world nod in unison, remember their own experiences.

The Times asks the question:

What is the right way to react to a humiliating, but not life-threatening, situation? Should you announce to an entire car of strangers that you have just been violated?

Most of the time, the women said, they seethe inwardly but say nothing.

What is the right answer, here? A friend of mine once stood up after a man groped her breast three times on the subway, and announced to everyone on the car that he'd done it. For the next few stops, she warned every woman who tried to sit in her former seat that the man was a groper and dangerous, until the man finally got up and left the train. But not every situation calls for that approach, especially if you're alone on the train or in an otherwise more precarious position.

The Times also covers some of the prevention methods that women entail, and points to this story of the old internalized "If I'd just done XYZ, he wouldn't have done that to me" broken record that we all seem to have running in our heads:

Jenna Caccaro, 22, a fashion student who lives in Brooklyn, said she was first flashed on the subway when she was 15. She thought it might have been because she was wearing her Catholic school uniform. “I thought that maybe I’d done something to attract him,” she said, “but my family reassured me he was just a sleaze.”

Jill at Feministe responds:

And this is the problem with encouraging these sorts of defense mechanisms in women. Obviously everyone needs to do what they need to do to survive and get through their day, and we should all try and take necessary safety precautions. But suggesting that if only women would dress a certain way / wouldn’t go to certain places / wouldn’t engage in certain activities, sexual assault wouldn’t occur is victim-blaming at its worst, and only succeeds in making individual women feel guilty for events which they had no part in causing.

This is a big pet peeve of mine, too, because it doesn't address the culture that creates and allows the assault to happen. This can't be simply a case of "boys will be boys," can it? It seems that men should get pretty upset when that's used as a defense of egregious, offensive sexual behavior since it tends to reduce them to drooling machines with no self-control or even self-determination. And that certainly doesn't sound like the guys I know at all. Do men defend their sexuality as more diverse than this?

On an uplifting note, a group of (mostly) women have taken the cue of a New Yorker who took a picture of a flasher on the subway with her cameraphone, and the flasher was subsequently arrested and convicted. They've created a website where people can report harassment publicly with their cameras and turn the tables on the harassers -- it's called Holla Back New York City.

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Deanna Zandt is a contributing editor at AlterNet.


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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 27, 2006 9:10 AM   
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"it's called Holla Back New York City. "

Well, I know I always felt violated by that Gwen Steffani song.

But all kidding aside... how are these guys not getting the snot beat out of them by guys on the subway when women do stand up and say something when this happens on a train???

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It isn't new
Posted by: Jesse on Jun 27, 2006 9:15 AM   
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Has there really been an increase in flashing and groping or is it just that we had a bad week? (That is, is the problem any worse now than perviously, or are more people reporting and maybe there is also a natural spike that over time is less significant).

Not that it excuses the behavior, but in a a city of 8 million people where, say, one in 10,000 men is likely to do something like that, that's 800 guys on any given day that you have. If the cops had 13 incidences in a week, in a subway system of 700 stations and millions of commuters, that's not all that bad, especially since offenders tend to repeat.

I think personally the method of attracting loads of attention and screaming or calling the guy out seems best, especially on a crowded car.

As to why men do it, I don't know. Some people are just jerks and sleazes. I'd say to women everywhere, just don't tolerate this and scream bloody murder. (I did like the idea of the woman taking the guy's picture with the cell phone -- that was a hoot. Who would have thought the technolgy could be so useful?)

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» RE: It isn't new Posted by: jem
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Jun 27, 2006 9:58 AM   
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are a traditional means of retaliation, but I guess I'm showing my age here. The camera is much cleverer, if you have one.

The issue about defensive measures and "blaming the victim" is a familiar one: there's a fine line between helping and appearing to blame. I think the legitimate questions are : "what can I do to prevent this - that I'm willing to do?"; and "What do I do when it happens anyway?"

The latter is probably more important, as I can't imagine many preventive measures that aren't an unacceptable burden. An armored suit you put on just for the subway? But there's nothing wrong with alerting women (or men) to basic safety measures.

Silly question about the bystanders intervening - this was NEW YORK. Would have been appropriate for a man to take the danger seat, though.

Flashers are mentally ill, gropers are just thieves, and indeed most men see them as disgusting. Generally, we expect the police to make that point for us, but intervening at the time, lacking cops, would be appropriate.

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