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RFK Jr. seeking litigation in Ohio election fraud

Posted by Deanna Zandt at 7:24 AM on June 20, 2006.


Plans to be announced soon, while Republican candidates are the foxes watching the henhouse in Ohio.

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In an interview in PR Week yesterday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced that he is seeking litigation, to be formerly announced and explained soon, in the case of the Ohio election fraud.

PRWeek: Is there a next step?
Kennedy: I’ve been meeting with attorneys… to devise a litigation strategy. And I would say that very soon we’ll be announcing lawsuits against some of the individuals and companies involved.

PRWeek: Who exactly would that litigation be targeting?
Kennedy: I wouldn’t say, right now.

PRWeek: The election is over. Is it too late now?
Kennedy: There’s another election soon. And as the Times [just] reported, the same people are up to the same shenanigans.

The lead editorial in the New York Times from June 7 (to which RFK refers) covers Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell's renewed attempts to block voter registration efforts this election season... the difference between this year and 2004, when he reinforced an ancient rule requiring all registrations to be on 80-lb. paper? This time Blackwell himself is running for governor of the state. How is it that a man running for office can still be in charge of overseeing fair elections, especially when it's someone as egregiously nefarious as Kenneth Blackwell? (Thanks to Ray Beckerman for the link.)

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Deanna Zandt is a contributing editor at AlterNet.


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shakin shakn
Posted by: feller on Jun 20, 2006 7:35 AM   
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as soon as RFK Jr. gets his fix, he's gonna sue. Oh. OH. The State of Ohio is really shaking. But not as much as Snowman Bobby.

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» What the hell Posted by: russianblue1
» Shake Rattle & Roll Bobby Posted by: feller
» Proving my point! Posted by: russianblue1
» BTW Posted by: russianblue1
» Oh come on!! Posted by: russianblue1
Bobby Jr's Next Book
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Jun 20, 2006 8:05 AM   
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Two years too late and an empty gesture, but at least RFK Jr should be able to ripoff enough credit from
the people who did the real work to get his next book on the best seller list.

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» RE: Bobby Jr's Next Book Posted by: lamar
» unfortunate possibility Posted by: Techubus
» RE: unfortunate possibility Posted by: AlanSmithee
Pap Attack
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jun 20, 2006 9:05 AM   
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The lawsuit was discussed in some detail (considering it's under seal) on Ring of Fire last weekend on Air America. Go to their site and listen in in MP3 or get it as a podcast via iTunes. It's worth a listen.

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» Never Posted by: feller
» RE: Like George? Posted by: harpy
» RE: Never Posted by: Ellie1
Challenge to righties: How is a suit a bad idea?
Posted by: lamar on Jun 20, 2006 11:21 AM   
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A lawsuit is a good idea, given the fact that it is the very same political officials who stand to benefit from any investigation into voting improprieties. People from the left and right should welcome this opportunity to make our system more credible. How can anyone stand up and say, "I'm against credibility in elections"? Aside from the ad hominem attacks in this thread, nobody has provided a logical reason as to why this lawsuit it bad.

All the trolls have done is muck up the discussion. Alternet should get moderators to delete junk that doesn't pertain to the topic at hand.

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» Vacuum Out the Dirt Posted by: feller
» RE: Vacuum Out the Dirt Posted by: aussidawg
» Hmmm... could that be... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: Vacuum Out the Dirt Posted by: gonzoskismet
Cause of Action
Posted by: feller on Jun 20, 2006 1:09 PM   
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To file a suit in federal or state courts, you need a "cause of action". Otherwise it will be tossed out on motion to dismiss. A law must exist that was broken, a remedy must exist that the court can extend (not always the case), the persons bringing the action must have standing to bring the suit(just running around saying you act in the public interest does not give you standing which usually the legislature must define) and the court involved must have jurisdicition to hear the case. The matter also must be brought within the statute of limitations,i.e., not too late past a date set by law. Also, in the case of elections, dislike of how the setup is established(i.e., kind of machines) is usually not enough as the state officials appointed under law to administer elections have great discretion to determine how votes are counted and stored, in the absence of specific instructions from the legislature. Courts are properly reluctant to intervene in elections. Courts are not the legislature, a fact liberals constantly forget in their drive to nullify popular rule that is better expressed by the legislature and quasi-legislative bodies to which legislatures delegate authority. (election boards are acting as agents of the legislature, not the courts). The remedy in our judicial system for political questions is political action: pass a bill, elect a candidate. That is black letter law that the US Supreme Court and every state supreme court have stated for years.

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» You need Proof Posted by: feller
» RE: You need Proof Posted by: Aim
» RE: Cause of Action Posted by: lamar
» never make assumptions Posted by: feller
» RE: never make assumptions Posted by: gonzoskismet
Back on Topic
Posted by: Techubus on Jun 20, 2006 3:39 PM   
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The trolls really came out in force for this one didn't they?

I'd like to hear some comments about the chances of this actually making it to court, and if so what we could expect as a result. Will it be anything more than a bunch of noise, or could real consquences result if solid proof of vote manipulation is provided?

I'm also curious about the motivations of RFK. I admit I'm still skeptical that this is anything more than a publicity stunt. This is all idle conjecture on my part of coarse, I'd love to be proven wrong.

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» RE: Back on Topic Posted by: aussidawg
» Agreed. Posted by: ABetterFuture
A Well-known Tactic Of The Right
Posted by: ZPaul on Jun 21, 2006 3:03 AM   
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A well-known tactic of the right, and unfortunately, at times, some of the left who allow themselves to get sucked in, as we should all know by now, is to ignore the message and attack the messenger, ignore what is debated and attack the debater, reject respectful debate in favor of name-calling and gratuitous comments. I have no interest in participating in such an unproductive farce, beyond making this comment, unless I see that the tone changes.

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» Well Said, Fred. Posted by: Aim
right on
Posted by: rsaxto on Jun 21, 2006 4:51 AM   
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RFK Jr. is right on in this effort. We need to prosecute NOW and reform elections NOW or be destroyed as a free people by neofascist government.

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Political Assassination
Posted by: shangrilalad on Jun 21, 2006 5:50 AM   
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Don’t be surprised if RFK Jr. is murdered like his father and uncle. Media coverup to follow.

American fascists have used political assassination several times to achieve their ends. John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King come to mind.

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» Pick A Fascist Posted by: feller
» RE: Pick A Fascist Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Pick A Fascist Posted by: lamar
» RE: Pick A Fascist Posted by: feller
» Spare me the racist-fascist jujitsu Posted by: shangrilalad
» RE: Pick A Fascist Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
re Feller sickof sleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jun 21, 2006 6:37 AM   
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I think you have it bassackwards good buddy, it's the Repugnicans who are taxing the middle class AND the poor

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Lovin' lawyers
Posted by: HeroesAll on Jun 21, 2006 6:49 AM   
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It would be nice to see an actual lawsuit about this issue, because there's been information around for ages yet nothing's been achieved. If Kennedy brings a suit, perhaps it might make the news, and might make people aware of how their supposed democracy is being eaten away. Might make them worried about something other than the horrifying threat that gay people might get married.

Nahhh, they'll never understand it anyway...

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» RE: Lovin' lawyers Posted by: Aim
DEMS NEED GET BETTER PUBLIC SPEAKERS
Posted by: Bozzytiger on Jun 21, 2006 9:44 AM   
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I cringed when i saw RFK jr on tv. He was flinching and twitching like a junky. When you bring up a issue like this your spokesman shouldnt come across like a jonesed out junky. We need powerful public speakers!

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