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Craigslist blocked by Internet provider

Posted by Deanna Zandt at 7:40 AM on June 8, 2006.


Malware provided by Cox prevents access to the one of the Internet's most popular sites.
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Amidst the battle for Net Neutrality, there's some discussion happening around Cox Internet, who provides software to customers that intentionally blocks Craigslist. Why would they do that? Well, because Cox has its own classifieds service, of course.

The background: Whenever you sign up with just about any Internet service provider, they provide you with a bundle of software that they want you to install and use. Outside of AOL, no one actually has to install the stuff in order to use their internet service, but most people don't know that. Thus, people get the install CD, and happily plug away through (often crappy) software that the ISP bundles.

In the case of Cox, they provide a little suite of apps called the "Cox Security Suite." Any unwitting (meaning, non-geek level) Internet subscriber would probably want to feel secure online, so they go ahead and install it. The ugly part is when this so-called Security Suite also blocks universally-accepted-as-awesome websites like Craigslist.

It also gets even uglier when the developers of the software, who provide such services to other ISPs, don't respond for nearly three months to the complaints that their software is blocking websites that it shouldn't.

There's nothing illegal about this activity, but it smacks of evil-ness, especially in light of the Net Neutrality debate. Should Internet service providers be allowed to take advantage of users' illiteracy and capitalize on it? There's a lot of folks out there (most of them the elitist-type of geeks) saying that stuff like this should make people learn about the Internet and how things work. That's like saying people should learn how phone systems work so they know if they're being illegally wiretapped by the NSA.

This kind of behavior by ISPs is irresponsible and detrimental. It's as bad as spyware being installed on your computer as part of a bundled software package... only worse, because you got this crap from a trusted source, the people you pay money to in order to simply access the Internet. And who knows what sites they'll block next?

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Deanna Zandt is a contributing editor at AlterNet.


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Bundled Crap
Posted by: Techubus on Jun 8, 2006 8:54 AM   
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Pretty much all bundled software that any ISP provides is worthless, but this sinks to a new low.

I don't think it's asking to much for some basic internet education for people. They don't need to understand how the 'net works, they just need to learn that bundled ISP software, and AOL, are worthless and unneccessary to enjoy the internet to its fullest.

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Agree with the author and techubus...with a caveat...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 8, 2006 9:17 AM   
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Yeah, Cox sucks (insert Beavis and Butthead chuckle) for doing that. Having said that, it also goes back to buyer beware:

Outside of AOL, no one actually has to install the stuff in order to use their internet service, but most people don't know that.

Consumer edu'macation is the best cure. Is it really asking too much for folks who spend ~$40/month on broadband, $10/month dialup to take a brief minute and understand what they are paying for?

Having said that, there are some "bundled" apps that are worth having. Earthlink provides a complete security solution (antivirus, firewall, anti-spyware, and anti-spam) for their subscribers that is actually pretty good, at least on par with other "free" (avg, zonealarm, spybot) solutions.

You have to be willing to do a little research to understand what you're paying for to get a return that you're satisfied with--consumer education, comparison shopping, etc. are every bit as important for internet access as phoneservice (which is the same in my household, thanks to cheap, reliable VOIP). You also have to be willing to dump a bad company, and write letters to CH, and the appropriate regulatory agencies.

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onestupidone
Posted by: onestupidone on Jun 8, 2006 12:18 PM   
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I use Cox, and have for several years, and I find this to not be true.

In my experience, they have not blocked craigslist, or any other site.

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» RE: onestupidone Posted by: jekowa
» RE: onestupidone Posted by: lamar
Heh, must be friends with the Scientologists...
Posted by: mmeetoilenoir on Jun 8, 2006 1:57 PM   
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That's pretty crappy. I wonder how many emails they've gotten from angry users trying to get this "fixed"?

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Another thought...
Posted by: mmeetoilenoir on Jun 8, 2006 2:00 PM   
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I wonder how many of these people have kids, and if they're attempting to use the program's adult content filters as well. If that filter is integrated into the security program, and people want to block porn and such from their kiddies, then craigslist.org would definitely be out, for the simple reason that they have adult classifieds and such. I'm almost betting that that's the problem.

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Overblown and alarmist.... ?
Posted by: charlief on Jun 9, 2006 6:20 AM   
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Gotta say that I've been using computers since 1988 and definitely a non-geek [I'm an Art Editor & designer]. Since going online for the first time in early 1994, I've had only one 'worm' affect one of my computers - around 1997-98 I think, in 18 years of using computers. And that wasn't delivered by the net.

Since then I haven't had one problem from spyware, malware, viruses, trojan horses and what all else. And since 2001 I've had no reason to install any anti-virus "protection" provided by any of my ISPs. I've since taken the time to know what I've been up against and made sure my purchasing choices [many thousands of dollars after a good many years] have been value for money. All of which led me to buy Mac - for any number of reasons, but the ones mentioned in this piece are in my top 5!

I'm sorry, but I cannot understand anyone that doesn't research what they buy BEFORE they buy it, when that item can cost thousands. I have no idea how a car REALLY works, but I make damn sure I research it before I buy one.

Jeez... no one, and I mean NO ONE gives you decent, worthwhile software for free. If it's on a free disk it's 'cos it's pretty much worthless. Haven't we learned that yet?

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Re: Overblown and Alarmist
Posted by: Deanna Zandt on Jun 9, 2006 8:20 AM   
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Unfortunately, no, most people haven't learned that yet. In my own daily interaction with my clients (I do other work besides AlterNet), you'd be shocked at the number of people that just click "yes" when some little window pops open. Especially kids...

Now, I certainly do my best to advocate consumer education -- and hopefully posting blogs like these will make folks more aware -- but the matter of the situation is that people, at the moment, really don't know any better. On top of that, they don't even see the red flag of "uh oh, it's free, must be crappy" because they're paying for Internet service, and thus think they've "paid" for software.

It's vicious to take advantage of that kind of naivete. I reiterate, as I did in my other comments, it's like asking people to understaned every level of their phone service to make sure people aren't spying on them. We've had phones for how long? And people still don't really know how they work -- they just do.

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