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Echo Chamber: Hillary burning to redefine 'liberal;' Tasini benefits

Posted by Don Hazen at 4:29 PM on December 6, 2005.


The old Clinton triangulation tactic of trying to have it both ways -- move to the right, and still try to claim to be liberal, is in play again... with a vengeance.

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According to the Associated Press, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is supporting new legislation to criminalize desecration of the United States flag, agreeing to co-sponsor a measure by Republican Sen. Bob Bennett of Utah. Ahh, love the sound of that: New York and Utah in unity... gives new meaning to the notion of purple states.

The pair are writing the legislation in the hope that it survives any constitutional challenge following a 2003 Supreme Court ruling on the subject. But Clinton, on the other hand, says she still opposes a constitutional ban on flag attacks. Get the distinction?

With this new step, Hillary Clinton is giving new meaning to the word liberal, and giving new NY Senate in 2006 challenger Jonathan Tasini yet another issue on which to run against her.

Yes, flag burning is a rather immature form of protest, but protest it is. But what is particularly shocking about the Clinton maneuver is her public statements comparing "the act of flag-burning to burning a cross, which can be considered a violation of federal civil rights law." There's some hullabaloo about all of this in the blogosphere.

Evan's Peek post is on top of it, and Matt Stoller zooms in on this absurdity with cross burning:

"The deeply disturbing piece here is the awful comparison of flag burning to cross burning. Cross burning is well-understood as a sign of terrorism. It was used to suppress blacks organizing themselves in both the South and the North from the post-Civil War era until the late 1960s. It was a sign of intimidation, of terrorism, or impending hate crimes. It was often a death threat. Flag burning has usually been the province of hippies and countercultural movements, and these have been relatively benign. They are certainly not equivalent in any way shape or form to the KKK or the legacy of slavery and segregation that cross burning represents."
Hillary has a lot of New Yorkers scratching their heads....and some are beginning to wonder if the activist Tasini's quixotic run against her in 2006 will increasingly pick up steam, if this is what Hillary is all about.

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Don Hazen is the executive editor of AlterNet.


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Dumb hillary
Posted by: werely on Dec 6, 2005 5:12 PM   
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To quote Allison Krauss, "Did she think forever was really going to last?"

The world has no place anymore for that kind of politics. She'll have to be real, or no one will care about her.

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» RE: Dumb hillary Posted by: Gma1
I guess she's running -- for President
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Dec 7, 2005 9:38 AM   
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The question is: on which party's ticket?

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They need to amend the law..
Posted by: takohead on Dec 7, 2005 10:20 AM   
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and allow flag burning only if you wrap a politician in it first.

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Triangulation
Posted by: veive on Dec 7, 2005 10:34 AM   
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It's obvious that Hillary's been talking to hubby. He's mastered the Dick Morris lessons on triangulation. Triangulation is the art of finding "middle ground" positions where your own base won't get pissed off enough to dump you and some of the guys on the other side will come around to stomaching you. Polarization may be more fun but it isn't as effective as triangulation when it comes to winning elections.

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Why this issue?
Posted by: linden on Dec 7, 2005 12:25 PM   
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Why can't Hillary triangulate her little heart out on some other issue, if she feels like she must? The flag-burning thing has always been about winning cheap points with conservative voters -- it's style over substance.

There's never been a great public outcry for anti-flag burning legislation. It stays around because a few wingnuts keep it around. Why does Hillary have to join them?

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Paranoid Pollyanna
Posted by: Linda on Dec 9, 2005 12:55 AM   
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Personally I prefer as a protest turning the Flag upside down, the traditionally recognized "Sign of Distress". Not burning the Flag! Once you burn it, it's gone & your protest is over. Fly the flag upside down, or hang it, or wear it instead!

Hillary is one of the usual bunch of clone-like political wives, just like Laura Bush. A few First Ladies have been "real", like Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt's wife Eleanor, & Pres. Jimmy Carter's wife, Roseanne.

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