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McCain Does Not Believe Gay People Can Be Parents

Posted by Keli Goff, Huffington Post at 3:00 AM on July 16, 2008.


"I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don't believe in gay adoption."
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It's no secret that last week was not a good one for John McCain. His old friend, Phil Gramm, demonstrated such a sad case of foot in mouth disease with his "mental recession" line that it was almost as though Gramm was acting as an Obama campaign covert operative. Then McCain had a little trouble performing, shall we say, when asked by a reporter to clarify his position on insurance coverage of Viagra but not of contraception. But those may not be the only media moments from last week that come back to haunt McCain on the general election campaign trail.



In an interview with the New York Times, McCain sought to affirm his conservative credentials. This included stating definitively that he opposes adoption rights for gay and lesbian couples. On Sunday, celebrity gossip blogger Perez Hilton (real name Mario Lavandeira) selected McCain's statement on the matter as his "Quote of the Day." The quote simply reads, "I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don't believe in gay adoption." At last count Hilton's post garnered around 700 comments, some of which are blatantly homophobic, (which is ironic considering Lavandeira himself is openly gay, which begs the question: if you disapprove of gay people so much why are you visiting a blog run by one?). But for the most part, the comments -- many of which are too colorful to print here -- highlight a fundamental problem for John McCain as he tries to formulate a winning strategy for November: How to win an election decided by voters in the middle, while continuing to pander to voters on the right.


It's no secret that gay marriage has long been a highly contentious political issue (one that arguably cost Democrats the 2004 election, since according to some polls gay marriage bans in states like Ohio had an impact on the presidential election) but gay adoption has emerged as a classic centrist issue. Barack Obama, who has been accused by the left of undergoing a political "Extreme Home Makeover" into a moderate in recent weeks, does not explicitly support gay marriage but does support equal adoption rights for gays and lesbians.



Younger voters in particular, who have been raised in a world of Will & Grace and Ellen have become increasingly intolerant of intolerance. John McCain may need to take particular note since polls show that young white evangelicals, once a cornerstone of the GOP, have begun to drift away from the party. Additionally, while she may be viewed as controversial now, (thanks to her lively stint on The View, Rosie O'Donnell certainly deserves some of the credit for helping to introduce the average American to the idea that gay parents are just like other parents.



While for some Americans religious beliefs remain an obstacle to their support of marriage rights for gays and lesbians, many of those same Americans have a tough time reconciling their religious conviction and compassion -- with the idea that a child may remain homeless in spite of the fact that a loving home exists in which they could be raised, simply because the home is inhabited by a same sex couple. A Pew Research Center poll shows that a clear majority of Americans now support adoption rights for gays and lesbians.



Like many Americans, I applauded Barack Obama's speech about absentee fathers. And I must say for the record, that I do believe that in an ideal world, a young black boy will be raised in a household in which he has the opportunity to see firsthand an image of a strong, responsible, black man; an image to serve as a roadmap for the type of man he will aspire to be someday. But I also believe that families come in all shapes and sizes (Barack Obama is living proof of this), and that when a family is both financially and emotionally sound enough to provide love and stability for a child, their skin color and gender matter don't matter as much.



Perhaps someone should ask John McCain, whose family rescued his youngest daughter Bridget from an orphanage in Bangladesh, if she would have been better off remaining there, than raised by a loving gay and lesbian couple.


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Don't Misunderestimate American Bigotry
Posted by: Xynyx on Jul 16, 2008 5:54 AM   
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I have a friend... one whom I may now need to call a former friend, since he has not returned any attempts at contact since we last spoke.. who, despite being moderate and no fan of G. W. Bush or most of his policies, claims that the one position with which he does not take issue is Bush's intolerance of homosexuality.

I should not have been surprised. His blue-collar upbringing combined with his recent conversion to Catholicism certainly seems to have cast him down that road. The disappointing part was that I always took him to be a person of intelligence... generally capable of critical thinking. It is dismaying to me that people are willing to shut down their critical thinking when their biases get inflamed like this.

Don't "misunderestimate" American bigotry. You may well find that the average American is still willing to sell him/herself out for this one irrational fear.

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Arguments
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jul 16, 2008 7:22 AM   
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You see, they say gay marriage is wrong because marriage is about having children. But when gay couples want to adopt, therefore nullifying the right-wingers' arguments, well, we can't have that.
This reminds me too of the argument that homosexuality is wrong because gays are living in sin. But, hey, the right-wingers don't want the gays to STOP living in sin by getting married.
You can't have it both ways, jackasses.
Oh, wait, I forgot. This is America. The right-wing can ALWAYS have it both ways.

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» Great post Posted by: LeeAnnG
» RE: Arguments Posted by: Vik
» RE: Arguments Posted by: Bibsisis
McCain will never be mistaken for someone who can think
Posted by: observing on Jul 16, 2008 7:39 AM   
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It's obvious that what children need are two adults firmly commited to their well being. The gender is immaterial. The relationship between two adults is immaterial (brother and sister, aunt and niece, whatever).

BTW: if you have seen McCain in the past week or so, have you noticed that the man is not physically healthy? I doubt he could last through 4 years in the White House.

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WHAT MAKES MCCAIN AN AUTHORITY
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 16, 2008 7:55 AM   
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He falls a little short of the mark on 'family values'. Anna

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Raising children...
Posted by: Gisele on Jul 16, 2008 8:19 AM   
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shouldn't be all that hard to folks with common sense. If you have the finances, patience, interest and the other myriad of qualifications most seem to think we need - then it shouldn't matter whether you're Red, White, Black, Brown, Pink with Purple Polka-Dots, Gay or Lesbian - raise the child to the very best of your ability.

I'm rather amused by McCain, and this administrations attitude when it comes to who can, and who can't raise a child - obviously having straight parents doesn't guarantee success. The proof resides in the White House.

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» RE: aising children... Posted by: Bibsisis
Incredible stupidity, incredible bigotry, incredible hypocrisy
Posted by: Bastet62 on Jul 16, 2008 8:34 AM   
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Since humankind began, straight parents have been giving birth to gay children. How else could these gay children's births have occurred? Doesn't this mean that straight parents are the ones making children gay? Hah! As a parent of three daughters, one of whom is a lesbian I can tell you from experience: THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY!

The type of bigotry that McCain and others proudly proclaim and show off is disgusting and what they say is verbatim what was said about people of color and bi-racial marriage not too long ago. Those people now hide their heads in shame for their participation in that kind of hatred or deny they were ever part of it.

Why do these bigots only pick out ONE or TWO verses in the Old Testament that have to do with SEX, and leave out a bunch of others - I mean can you imagine these christian republicans having a JUBILEE year? ahahahha! That would NEVER happen, yet that is just as important as any other law in the Old Testament, along with stoning your wife, beating your kid, stoning your bull, and your slaves etc.....

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Too much to handle
Posted by: herronsmith on Jul 16, 2008 9:20 AM   
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I find all of this rather sad as I am aging myself. John McCain is a good example of the hazards of the aging process coupled with a long history of PTSD. He really isn't mentally fit to act in the best interest of the American people.
While aging alone doesn't explain his missteps, PTSD along with the possibility of dementia does. I don't mention this so as to criticize McCain but to caution those who can't quite explain his changing "views". It is very common, when attempting to control your environment, to become angry, confused, and forgetful, with early dementia and PTSD. It is only natural as the person realizes that they are somewhat confused but can't correct the mistakes quickly so as to appear cognitively intact. Why is this sad? Because we have slipped so far down that this is the best we can find to represent an entire political party. While I think it benefits Obama's campaign, it really doesn't level the playing field despite the fact Obama has his own troubles. It is really absurd to think you can couple a 40+ year old who has no apparent psychological problems with a 70* year old who has obvious psychological problems which will only get worse. One need only look at GWB on camera to see how a presidency ages, both physically and mentally, a person. McCain will not be able to withstand the pressure.

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Using wingnut logic...
Posted by: zipper696 on Jul 16, 2008 4:46 PM   
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Gay and Lesbian couples should "cross-marry" boy/girl + boy/girl - then both couples apply for adoptions, get the child safely in their homes, divorce and revert to their genuine partner with the child they wanted in the first place...

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» RE: Using wingnut logic... Posted by: everyonesxwife
Best counter to this load of crap
Posted by: chaoslegs on Jul 17, 2008 5:49 PM   
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I don't know if you watch To The Contrary on PBS, but it is a good show. They have two conservatives, two liberals, and a moderator-Bonnie Erbe.

Well a year or two ago, they covered this topic and the very tired argument about kids needing "a mom and a dad" came out from the conservatives.

Bonnie Erbe countered this with, "so does that mean single people shouldn't adopt." The conservative stammered out finally, the states are all over the places on that, which wasn't an answer, it was total evasion.

The statistics show (click on any report 10-14, and scroll to the bottom of that page)that about 15,000 children a year in the public foster care system are adopted by single parents.

So take that you nuts that think that children need two parents (which a gay or lesbian couple meets) because 10,000s of children each year find that permanent family thanks to these single parents.

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Not sure about this one
Posted by: xmvince on Jul 18, 2008 10:18 AM   
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Although I am in 100% favor for gay marriage, I am unsure about parenting because it really is unnatural (I mean, the universe itself lays down the law pretty clear, saying two men cannot give birth) which means I am supporting McCain for this single thing. If it's going directly against the universe, then I don't think it's a good idea. Plus it would suck being raised by gay people, as you need a good father figure and two gays would be like two mother figures (uh oh, and I thought 1 mom was bad enough).
Oh well, hope I didn't offend anyone, I just don't think it's all that great raising a child with two gay parents.

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» RE: Not sure about this one Posted by: everyonesxwife
Gay Parents
Posted by: everyonesxwife on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 AM   
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I would rather have loving, caring, good Gay parents than a pair of bad, abusive, neglectful heterosexual parents. Some of the BEST parents I know are GAY and some of the WORST parents I know are STRAIGHT! Get over your old-fashioned, cave-man mentality! One or two loving parents who want to raise a child in a loving home are better than any idiot that can breed! Just because you can have a baby doesn't mean you should be a parent!

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What does that mean?
Posted by: sicntired on Jul 27, 2008 12:33 AM   
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When a person claims not to believe in something,they are doubting it's existence.I guess McCain has never actually seen a gay couple adopt,nor heard that such a thing ever happens.Sounds like a serious reality gap.

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