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Pentagon Releases '03 Memo Giving Green Light to Torture

Posted by Brad , Sadly No! at 7:43 AM on April 2, 2008.


In other words, torture is only torture when the torturer feels guilty about doing it afterwards.
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Above: John “Whatsamatta” Yoo

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The Justice Department sent a legal memorandum to the Pentagon in 2003 asserting that federal laws prohibiting assault, maiming and other crimes did not apply to military interrogators who questioned al-Qaeda captives because the president’s ultimate authority as commander in chief overrode such statutes. […]
“If a government defendant were to harm an enemy combatant during an interrogation in a manner that might arguably violate a criminal prohibition, he would be doing so in order to prevent further attacks on the United States by the al Qaeda terrorist network,” Yoo wrote. “In that case, we believe that he could argue that the executive branch’s constitutional authority to protect the nation from attack justified his actions.”
Interrogators who harmed a prisoner would be protected by a “national and international version of the right to self-defense,” Yoo wrote. He also articulated a definition of illegal conduct in interrogations — that it must “shock the conscience” — that the Bush administration advocated for years.

“Whether conduct is conscience-shocking turns in part on whether it is without any justification,” Yoo wrote, explaining, for example, that it would have to be inspired by malice or sadism before it could be prosecuted.

In other words, torture is only torture when the torturer feels guilty about doing it afterward.

Which assures that the only people who will ever be prosecuted for torture are the whistle-blowers.

Joseph Heller had no idea how crazy this shit could get. Jesus H.

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Gavin adds: Well, not just whistle-blowers. That definition of torture also allows for the prosecution of ‘bad apples,’* as with the Abu Ghraib affair. Naturally, their superiors would be unmaliciously managing paperwork and personnel matters as the blood and excrement spattered the cell walls.

Kinda reminds you of something, doesn’t it?

* Species name: Malice domestica

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yoo is a traitor
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 AM   
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having watched his tormented rationalizations on 'the News Hour', read his justifications of a 'unitary executive' it seems to me this is the worst 'thinking' any man has contributed to this nation, his 'thinking' which strips morality and conscience from the constitution. he is a fraud of a lawyer.

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» Yoo da man! Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
Satan Blushes
Posted by: QQOblivion on Apr 2, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Yoo's reasoning is sickening. Is there ANYONE in the Bush administration who isn't LITERALLY PURE EVIL!?
No?

Of course, this memo is not shocking, by today's standards. We all should know that our Supreme Leader Bushie's powers trump all -- all law, all morality, all that is just, all that is good.

And to think, if what Americans KNOW about is so downright vile, just imagine what we have yet to find out about and what we will NEVER find out about!

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Just a thought
Posted by: walldodger1969 on Apr 2, 2008 8:43 AM   
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How many A$$holes did,does this administration have? Surely there must be one decent person there.

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"The Terror Presidency"
Posted by: CJC on Apr 2, 2008 9:24 AM   
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I highly recommend the book of that title by Jack Goldsmith, who was head of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) in the Justice Dept. after Yoo.

It's all the more revealing and devastating for being written by an insider. But Goldsmith resigned after about 8 months. Basically, he felt he didn't have the time or the White House support to rewrite Yoo's opinions.

Read it and gnash your teeth.

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So...?
Posted by: JosephHill on Apr 2, 2008 9:39 AM   
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What scares the hell out of me is the "debate" over whether torture is justified...given the situation. It seems if the American people had EVER believed in the principles of our Constitution, of the Geneva Conventions, or of standards of common decency; they sure were quick to toss them into the wastebasket after 9/11.

They certainly were also quick to discard all that stuff they learned from the Judeo-Christian scriptures that they so firmly--and uncompromisingly--"believe" in. Once again, the 'doctrine' of American Exceptionalism rears its ugly head, trumping any notion of a 'golden rule' or 'categorical imperative'.

What the hell kind of people ARE we?!
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"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue." -- Oscar Wilde

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» There is no such thing as "scripture" Posted by: AsteroidMiner
Pi**ed off
Posted by: mikegem on Apr 2, 2008 10:50 AM   
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that my alma mater, Boalt School of Law, hired this SOB. It's as if the UCB School of Journalism had decided to hire Joseph Goebbles because he had a good understanding of how to use media to sway public opinion.
As long as Yoo's on the faculty, no donations from me or any of my alumni friends whom I can convince.

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» RE: Pi**ed off Posted by: Quannah
Professor Yoo?
Posted by: modeler on Apr 2, 2008 1:59 PM   
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What a joke, this guy, or should I say asshole, deserves to be in Gitmo behind the wire along with the other crooks amd criminals of this administration. Nor more and no less. To make him teach law is like a a criminal offense. Another black mark on the reputation of the USA as a law abiding society.

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