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Lieberman Still a Fan of Waterboarding

Posted by ZP Heller, Brave New Films at 2:56 PM on April 21, 2009.


The hawkish Connecticut Senator still refuses to call waterboarding torture.

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I've long said it's time to give Joe Lieberman the boot, and his stance on torture makes me think we need to revive the Lieberman Must Go campaign.  In an interview with Fox's Greta Van Susteren yesterday, the hawkishly Independent Connecticut Senator said of President Obama's decision to release the torture memos, "It wasn't necessary. It just helps our enemies. It doesn't really help us."

Then, when Van Susteren asked whether waterboarding constitutes torture, Lieberman fell short of actually defining it as such and went on to suggest the President ought to be able to use methods like torture in the future.  What's more, Lieberman again claimed that waterboarding and other abhorrent interrogation techniques are successful in extracting information:

Well, I take a minority position on this. Most people think it's definitely torture. The truth is, it has mostly a psychological impact on people. It's a terrible thing to do. I've said in the past, and I'll say it again to you -- that I want the President of the United States, in a given circumstance where we believe somebody we've got in our control may have information that will help us stop an attack, an imminent attack on the United States like 9/11 or, God forbid, worse, we ought to be able to use something like waterboarding. But generally speaking it ought not to be on the table.

Incidentally, I believe General Hayden when he says that not just waterboarding, which he stopped, as I understand it, but a number of the other items on that list that has been published, really did work -- did help to give us a lot of the information that we have about Al Qaeda.

First of all, why is Fox still asking the question of whether waterboarding constitutes torture?  When Attorney General Eric Holder calls waterboarding torture, it's no longer up for debate!  Even John McCain, the object of Lieberman's Senatorial bromance, thinks it's torture.  Is Fox actually trying to show us how foolish Lieberman looks?  If so, Lieberman beat Fox to the punch by joking about waterboarding at a black-tie event last year.

Since Lieberman obviously needs a refresher, here's the definition of waterboarding from Human Rights Watch (H/T Crooks and Liars):

Waterboarding is torture. It causes severe physical suffering in the form of reflexive choking, gagging, and the feeling of suffocation. It may cause severe pain in some cases. If uninterrupted, waterboarding will cause death by suffocation. It is also foreseeable that waterboarding, by producing an experience of drowning, will cause severe mental pain and suffering. The technique is a form of mock execution by suffocation with water. The process incapacitates the victim from drawing breath, and causes panic, distress, and terror of imminent death. Many victims of waterboarding suffer prolonged mental harm for years and even decades afterward.

And as for the effectiveness of waterboarding, I wonder what Lieberman would say to the accuracy of the information obtained from the two al Qaeda suspects waterboarded a combined 266 times.   If only Van Susteren had asked that question instead of rehashing old Fox talking points from the Bush regime.

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Tagged as: torture, al qaeda, joe lieberman, fox news, john mccain, waterboarding, eric holder, greta van susteren

ZP Heller is the editorial director of Brave New Films. He has written for The American Prospect, AlterNet, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and The Huffington Post, covering everything from politics to pop culture.


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Al Gore's Regret
Posted by: DrBrian on Apr 22, 2009 12:05 AM   
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Surely one of Al Gore's greatest regrets is that he chose this disgusting jingo bluenose warmonger as a running mate.

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» RE: Al Gore's Regret Posted by: Aquinas
Torture will continue to seem reasonable to people as long as the official 9/11 story stands.
Posted by: pfgetty on Apr 22, 2009 4:30 AM   
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Waterboarding and other torture will seem in the minds of most Americans a reasonable way to combat the horror we saw on 9/11.
As long as the official story stands, Americans will regard it as necessary, or at least understandable.
But 9/11 was not brought to us by radical Islamists or other foreign ideologues.
It was an inside job. The evidence proves it.
Expose the evidence and the American people will rise up against those who brought torture to America.
Alternet: do your job........present the piles of information and analysis of the facts of 9/11 that prove that the official story is a fairytale.

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What a foul little man
Posted by: weathered on Apr 22, 2009 5:32 AM   
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and just think he's bilingual, he can speak democratic or republican, but he's most comfortable w/fluent zionist.

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He's funny
Posted by: joebanana on Apr 22, 2009 7:14 AM   
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Our government caused this whole problem by being stupid, now they're trying to fix it by being more stupid. That's the American way.
The war on drugs has caused more harm and death to innocent people than it's stopped.
Stupidity is our governments solution, it's easier to kill more people, than to admit how stupid making a plant illegal, is.
With this mentality,we're doomed.

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» 'That's the American Way' ? Posted by: weathered
» RE: He's funny Posted by: Aquinas
Waterboard Lieberman
Posted by: DCostello2 on Apr 22, 2009 7:20 AM   
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Let's waterboard Joe 183 times next month and then ask his opinion. What a f&#^ing Idiot!!! I can't believe the people of CT keep electing this moron.

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» RE: Waterboard Lieberman? Posted by: MtnWolfGrl
» RE: Waterboard Lieberman? Posted by: mainspark
Has anyone else noticed...
Posted by: lightmind on Apr 22, 2009 10:37 AM   
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That wherever the opportunity exists for further erosions of liberty because of the "fear" factor that this pitiful excuse of a "Human Being" rears his ugly head in support of more policing, militarization and control mechanisms?

The MO of this POS is blatantly obvious... at least part of his job is the building of the police state that will enslave us whom desire to be free all and fold us into the New World abomination. And does he have dual nationality, and just where do this man's loyalties lie?

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JOE: Fan and spectator of the Bush regime water board sport.
Posted by: EJLima on Apr 22, 2009 12:29 PM   
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Pray for your next life you are not a victim of it.

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Nothing New, they do exist!!
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