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Report: Furious McCain Lashed Out at Hispanic Leaders During GOP "Outreach Meeting"

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 2:40 PM on April 4, 2009.


The straight-talker reportedly pulled out the classic "you people" line.

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The Republicans have a major problem with Latino voters, which is a structural problem for the party given that they represent the fastest-growing group of voters in the country, and many are distributed in hotly contested swing states (see this report (PDF) if you have a hankerin' for some hard data).

Republican leaders are rightly concerned -- theirs is a party with a rapidly shrinking base made up largely of white, married people who identify themselves as Christians (almost 80 percent of the electorate in the 1950s, that demographic made up a little more than  40 percent of voters in the 2000s, according to political scientist Alan Abramowitz).

For several years now, party leaders have talked quite a bit about reaching out to Latinos (as well as African Americans), but with little success. They're caught between a demographic rock and the hard place represented by not only the party's stunning failures while in power, but also by the right-wing bloggers and radio squawkers whose over-the-top rhetoric on immigration continues to send Hispanics -- many of whom might be tempted to vote Republican based on social issues like abortion -- fleeing to the Dems in droves.

Last month, according to a report in the National Journal (via ThinkProgress), key GOP members, McCain among them, sat down with a group of  Hispanic activists in an attempt to bridge their differences. It didn't go well, with McCain showing his legendary temper and, according to several sources who attended the meeting, going into "you people" mode ...

John McCain sounds angry and frustrated that, despite the risks he took in pushing immigration reform, Hispanic voters flocked to Democrat Barack Obama in last year's presidential contest. McCain's raw emotions burst forth recently as he heatedly told Hispanic business leaders that they should now look to Obama, not him, to take the lead on immigration.

What began as a collegial airing of views abruptly changed when McCain spoke about immigration, according to these sources, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution ...

"He was angry," one source said. "He was over the top. In some cases, he rolled his eyes a lot. There were portions of the meeting where he was just staring at the ceiling, and he wasn't even listening to us. We came out of the meeting really upset."

McCain's message was obvious, the source continued: After bucking his party on immigration, he had no sympathy for Hispanics who are dissatisfied with President Obama's pace on the issue. "He threw out [the words] 'You people -- you people made your choice. You made your choice during the election,' " the source said. "It was almost as if [he was saying] 'You're cut off!' We felt very uncomfortable when we walked away from the meeting because of that."

[...]

Having stuck his neck out in the past, McCain apparently is in no mood to do so again for an ethnic group he seems to view as ungrateful. On NBC's Meet the Press on March 29, McCain repeated his message that the ball is in the Democratic president's court. So far, the senator said, he has not seen much on immigration from the Obama White House, although the president recently met with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and set the goal of launching the debate in the fall, a senior administration official said.

McCain's press flack -- and the other GOP leaders who attended the meeting -- denied that the talk had been as contentious as characterized. They told the Journal that it was just more of McCain's "straight talk," and that when he repeatedly said "you people" he was referring to voters who had gone for Obama in general, not Hispanics.

But, as the Journal notes ...

But one person's straight talk is another person's vitriol. "My hands were shaking," one source said. "I was nervous as no-end." The senator's comments went on for several minutes at least. And by the end of the meeting, another participant, who had supported McCain in last year's presidential election, was so shaken by the display of temper that he decided it is good that McCain isn't in the White House.

McCain's anger is obviously misplaced. Although the senator has been a leader on sensible immigration reform -- and is respected by many advocates of that approach -- as a candidate for president, he was simply unable to shed the baggage of a party that has ceded the immigration issue to the anti-immigrant hardliners among its base. He should have blamed Rush Limbaugh, the guys at Fox News and other public faces of the Republican Party whose rhetoric had as much to do with McCain's lack of support among Latinos as the tanking economy or the occupation of Iraq.

But much more important than that is the potential impact of McCain ceding the issue to Obama and the Dems. If true, it would make passage of pragmatic, commonsense immigration reform much more difficult. As Simon Rosenberg, head of the New Democrat Network, told me last month, "It's going to be hard without McCain, because no Republicans want to be seen running to his left on immigration."

My sense, though, is that this is about McCain's ego being bruised after losing his one shot at the Oval Office, largely on the backs of Latino voters, and that his support will be there as long as the bill that eventually comes to the floor looks substantially similar to the "Grand Bargain" he cooked up with Ted Kennedy in 2006.

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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MEAN McCAIN
Posted by: drricklippin on Apr 4, 2009 2:13 PM   
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Josh

Thanks but not surprised.

McCain has a well known mean temper which he struggles to keep in check

But the volcanic rage is always there ready to erupt.

Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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» RE: MEAN McCAIN Posted by: luzmejor
You People. Yeah.
Posted by: Longdream on Apr 4, 2009 2:58 PM   
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Here's the thing about this. It shows absolutely what we already knew: That McCain's only abiding principle is quid pro quo.

He'll be your friend, no matter who you are: an annoying governor with the stuff to charm the home-schoolin' crowd, a sleazenoid religionist rat, or a group of well-intentioned voters, IF and only IF you're in a position to get him over.

After this, the man should really consider retirement.

I wonder what his last exchanges with Palin were. Unprintable, probably.

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» RE: You People. Yeah. Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: You People. Yeah. Posted by: chrlscoburn
» RE: You People. Yeah. Posted by: Aquinas
Alzheimers- Forgetfulness and lack of Impulse control
Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 5, 2009 6:20 AM   
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Come On we ahd to endure 8 yrs of a Alzheimers patient as Pres once before..It's time we admit the obvious. John McCain show serious signs of senilty.
He couldn't remember what Lindsay Graham had reminded him of just 24 hours earlier (Who was being trained?). Couldn't keep Sunni & shia stratight. Forgot not to glorify AQ by calling them 'Afghani Freedom fighters' when discussing the '80's Afghani/USSR war.
His personality switches on a dime- one minute relaxed and open, the next pissed and hostile.It's not only a concern about whether or not he's Bi Polar- but if he has any control over his emotions.
Didn't anyone elses Red Flag go up when Ronny claimed he couldn't remember what he had for breakfast during Iran Contra? Well, if you missed that teltale confession of confusion- you have been given numerous opportunities to not miss McCains.After the paranoia of Nixon, The confusion of Ronny and the alcohol induced Brain damage of W...McCain saying he'd "Love to have Dick Cheney in his Cabinet" should have sent off sirens.McCain is all of those Wrapped into One! A perfect manchurian, with the 'glory Story' to boot. "Hero" or not, The man ain't right in the head.Reason the Campaign came out and admitteed "McCain doesn't speak for the campaign"!!!!!Who the hell could have missed that confirmation.

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You gotta love him..
Posted by: 2thepoint on Apr 5, 2009 6:22 AM   
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he says whats on his mind - unlike most politicians, including Obama, who will say what they think you want to hear at that moment!

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» RE: Unfortunately, Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Unfortunately, Posted by: 2thepoint
» So does my grandpa... Posted by: LazyEight
» RE: So does my grandpa... Posted by: 2thepoint
» RE: So does my grandpa... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: You gotta love him.. Posted by: Natasha_W
» RE: You gotta love him.. Posted by: blitzmesser
Dodged A Bullet
Posted by: QQOblivion on Apr 5, 2009 6:49 AM   
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Be grateful that McCain didn't win the presidential election. Can you imagine this hot-head's response to N Korea shooting off rockets, or his response to other things in the news since Jan 20?

We all would have been fried 5 times over by now!

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» RE: Dodged A Bullet Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Dodged A Bullet Posted by: J4761
» RE: Dodged A Bullet Posted by: willymack
How about that old border war with Mexico
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Apr 5, 2009 3:50 PM   
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How would he react to this religion?

Santa Muerte, the Mexican death cult

In 2005, they took to the streets shouting "We are not drug addicts or criminals," and "respect the right to religion" after the Government refused Santa Muertistas legal recognition as a church.

What impact would it have on these people if we ended the Drug War?

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Poor Rethugs - it is so hard to live a lie, they just seem to come back and bite you
Posted by: PaulC on Apr 5, 2009 7:31 PM   
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So the disenfranchised Americans that the Rethugs despise so much have the gall to dislike being manipulated, lied to, beat down and generally treated like dirt.

Such chutzpah on their part! What gives them the right to hope for a decent life? Only the strong should survive (actually, make that the well-connected).

peace,
Paul

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half the story
Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 5, 2009 9:22 PM   
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What were the activists saying that set him off so? It would be nice to know.

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» RE: half the story Posted by: Longdream
McCain failure
Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 5, 2009 9:38 PM   
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McCain and Republicans are failing badly because they are trying the same old tactics that aren't working anymore. Labeling the opposition as socialist didn't work in the campaign and it isn't working now. Fear mongering against the Dems failed last year and it's failing again.

You see, people already have their full of fear. They fear losing their jobs, or becoming destitute if they lose their jobs...so they don't have room for the fear Repubs are trying to generated.
What we as Americans want is positive action towards rebuilding and reinvesting in our country. So far, only the Dems are taking this action...the Repubs are just trying to stand in the way. Lowering taxes and gutting Medicare just doesn't fly as a plan these days.

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He's bound to have PTSD
Posted by: kww355 on Apr 6, 2009 2:30 AM   
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After years of documented temper tantrums and life-long poor impulse control, I think he's bound to have PTSD also. He is of that generation that thinks it's a weakness to seek psychiatric help. He was raised in a military home and spent decades in the service himself. That's more repression and "sucking it up".

He's a mental and emotional IED just waiting to blow.

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» RE: He's bound to have PTSD Posted by: richardbrinton
Naive and Nonexistent Hispanics
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Apr 6, 2009 4:25 AM   
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Politics is about backing your choice so you get what you want. Quid pro quo.

McCain kept his word. Hispanics stuck him in the back. McCain is under no obligation to ease their path to immigration again. Politicians are like the Mafia, if you can't deliver, you are dead. The same goes for the people who do business with the Mafia.

Part of the problem is the term Hispanics, or Latinos. The Moron Media can't deal with complexities or subtle differences. Within "Hispanics" are many nationalities, even languages. There are longtime Americans and there are illegals who regualarly return to native nations. There are those who speak English with ease, and those who will never speak English. There are brown, black, and white "Hispanics". Rich and poor.

McCain's mistake was being suckered into the mono-ethnicity myth to begin with and to believe it would "deliver" for him. There are no "you people" called Hispanics, but don't tell that to the two most ignorant professions in America: journalists/bloggers and political consultants.

Smart politician's questions: Who voted, describe them, and what changes are going on with that kind of voter that I should respond to? The Economic Survival Group is the group politicians should target appeals and solutions to. The currrent Administration is in the midst of an extermmination plan right now for the Economic survival Group of the working and middle class.

It is in the midst of a rescue plan for the big investor class(don't be fooled by the Obama pipsqueak tax hikes).

Republicans like Buchanan know there is a populist opportunity for the GOP and for a new conservative party. Will the same olds like McCain, Palin and Romney get it, however. Probably not.

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poor mccain
Posted by: argiom on Apr 6, 2009 4:49 AM   
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this could have been our president, thank god he didnt and thats a good thing, imagine him with his hand on the red button very scary

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Keep it up McCain...
Posted by: Natasha_W on Apr 6, 2009 7:21 AM   
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You will soon be totally irrelevant and Arizona will vote you out of office for good!

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McCain can go straight to -----
Posted by: symcokid on Apr 6, 2009 7:54 AM   
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hell and he is only deserving of the old straight eight. Atzlan for him.

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yep
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Apr 6, 2009 9:33 AM   
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Yes, that was just straight talk.

You didn't give me what I want, so fuck you. His outreach was meant as a quid-pro-quo and nothing more.

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SOS
Posted by: willymack on Apr 6, 2009 10:31 AM   
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Mcnut shows his true self, AGAIN. Don't forget this is the guy who called his wife a "cunt" ,in public, yet. This latest outburst is merely more of the same.

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» RE: SOS Posted by: babs
caronome
Posted by: Bayardtom on Apr 6, 2009 2:13 PM   
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Quel surprise! Grampa diapers had a tantrum. What else is new? This is a seriously disturbed person. We can all be happy that all of the nuts in the country didn't elect him as our president.
But wouldn't it be a blessing if all of the other nuts (Palin, Joe the Plumberhead,Boner and the other crazies in Congress) shut up and tried to pretend that they were loyal Americans?

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So when is the riechstad burning?
Posted by: DaBear on Apr 6, 2009 2:14 PM   
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I'm tellin' you, there is a fascist uprising in the making.

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McCannot
Posted by: blitzmesser on Apr 6, 2009 7:10 PM   
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Why would anyone care what this idiot has to say? He is now dumb and rich, but was blonde, at one time.:)

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Obama may not be perfect . . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 6, 2009 7:12 PM   
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But thank God we didn't elect this a**hole.

Hasn't pretty much everybody figured out by now that McCain is a not-too-bright hothead who has been trading on his Vietnam semi-hero status for far too long? Geeez! I'm amazed anybody listens to him anymore. Maybe after this latest tirade, they won't –– at least, not latinos . . .

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Old fart
Posted by: frank69 on Apr 8, 2009 12:13 AM   
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McCain is just an old RepubThug fart.

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Be thankful
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Apr 8, 2009 9:06 AM   
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Be thankful that McCain didn't get elected, regardless of any views he may or may not hold on immigration...or any other topic. The man is a walking time bomb, ready to explode at very slight provocation. The thought of his hand on the "red button" should be enough to make anybody tremble in dread.

I opposed his "comprehensive reform" (a.k.a. amnesty for illegal aliens), but that wasn't even one of the top reasons I voted against him. The thought of World War III was a lot more compelling.

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