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Bush: I Personally Authorized Torture

Posted by Staff, Think Progress at 1:00 PM on January 11, 2009.


In an interview that aired today on Fox News Sunday, Bush admitted that he personally authorized the torture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

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In an interview with Brit Hume that aired today on Fox News Sunday, President Bush admitted that he personally authorized the torture of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He said he personally asked "what tools" were available to use on him, and sought legal approval for waterboarding him:

BUSH: One such person who gave us information was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. … And I’m in the Oval Office and I am told that we have captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the professionals believe he has information necessary to secure the country. So I ask what tools are available for us to find information from him and they gave me a list of tools, and I said are these tools deemed to be legal? And so we got legal opinions before any decision was made.

Watch it:


Bush staunchly defended the program, saying it saved American lives -- despite interrogators' claims to the contrary. He waved away the debate over torture by saying dismissively, "Look, I understand why people can get carried away on this issue."

Last year, Bush admitted that he was "aware" that his national security team met to discuss KSM's interrogation, and that he approved of the meeting. His admission today suggests Bush had a far more direct role in developing the specific torture program, which included waterboarding, a freezing cell, and long periods of standing and stress positions (all of which have long been considered torture).

What’s more, a former Pentagon intelligence analyst told Vanity Fair that "K.S.M. produced no actionable intelligence"; another former CIA official, who read all the reports from KSM’s interrogation, said, “90 percent of it was total f*cking bullsh*t.”

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Poker Face
Posted by: Xynyx on Jan 11, 2009 1:19 PM   
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Again, everyone could just let this comment drop... for just a week and a couple days. Then we can have all the prosecutions we want without fear of stupid interruptions or comments from the Bush Administration that could make things more difficult.

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» RE: Poker Face Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Bush has NO poker face! Posted by: mainspark
» RE: The line broke. Posted by: That_SOB
Bushcon tortured America
Posted by: weathered on Jan 11, 2009 2:30 PM   
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Visualize the woman we see as the Statue of Liberty, picture her clearly being assaulted, subjected to waterboarding. That's want happened on 9/12, we were too busy being in shock to take it all in.

bush himself was but a bit player, the sick bastard can't even get out of his own way, its his handlers who belong in Gitmo.

Connect all the dots, from Ari Fliescher on up down and sideways. A masterful production, a disastrous outcome.
Still stuck in the depth of denial, just look around?

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» RE: A seamless change of blame Posted by: That_SOB
BUSH BETTING ON A LONG SHOT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 11, 2009 3:27 PM   
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Now that Obama is about to outlaw torture Bush is just waiting for the least little incident to happen (if it does) so he can brag about how torture works and he kept us safe. Does he remember who was president on 9/11/2001? It's interesting to hear the departure whining stories. I believe that reality has set in and the protection afforded by the White House is no longer. Must be scary. ANNA

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Fucking idiot! Gotta love that his own stupidity is what nails him!
Posted by: Quannah on Jan 11, 2009 5:23 PM   
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Let him implicate himself! On national TV! Let him spill his guts... enough to send his sorry ass to the International Criminal Court, if the Obama administration isn't willing to act on this admission, as well as Cheney's admission about a month ago.

Once thing you can count on idiots to do... say things without thinking. Give him enough rope...

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» What you have to understand is... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: Law is on his side Posted by: Tombo
» RE: Law is on his side Posted by: Basenjis
» Cognitive dissonance Posted by: 2dogarage
I WISH!
Posted by: weslen1 on Jan 12, 2009 5:41 AM   
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I wish, JUST ONE TIME, that SOMEONE, would ask each and every one of these sleeze balls, from Bush on DOWN, this question!
"If you are so sure you are RIGHT, and everything you've DONE is RIGHT, then WHY the cover up?"
The reason they are talking so freely NOW is because they KNOW they will walk away scott free because the American People no longer have any say in anything at all that goes on in this country. Politicians get elected on the basis of lies and cover ups of their true ideals and beliefs and then we the people are just stuck with them.
I watched the swearing in of the House of Representatives the other day and it just made me sick! For the last 2 years of Democratic control they have done everything in their power to PREVENT any accountability of the Bush Administration and still have the nerve to stand up there and SWEAR to "Uphold and Defend the Constitution against ALL enemies both FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC even as they have spent the last 2 years protecting those DOMESTIC ENEMIES. What we have now is a government of traitors. Most of them KNEW about the crimes of the Bush Administration LONG before the rest of us had a clue and every single ONE of them went along. NOW, they are going to "just let it all go" because, otherwise they will have to have their own part in all of it come out.

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Has no Morals, needs Legal advice
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jan 12, 2009 6:19 AM   
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This is the man Americans voted for? This is the Man who calimed to be a 'compassionate conservative'...I see no comapssion and certianly nothing to suggest he acted conservatively.
Apparently W has not a conscience of his own and must depend on others to gauge what is Moral and what is a atrocity.His lead Adviser,DICK. Satan must be Proud.

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Now I get it
Posted by: 2dogarage on Jan 12, 2009 8:22 AM   
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You just cut and paste your "all-caps" poorly-composed drivel to assault our eyes every few posts. I wondered how anyone had that much time to spew.

What, may I ask, does putting more cops on the beat have to do with the war crimes of the Bush administration?

Your oft-repeated foaming at the mouth and in-your-face promotion of your big ideas doesn't impress me in the least.

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RE: WHO CARES??????? THE WORD IS BREWING THAT OBAMA WILL LET GO –WHO KNOWS?????
Posted by: Joni50 on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 PM   
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Huh?

You think more cops on the beat will go after the big guys in DC? No, they'll just go after the small-time punks and dopers that cops always go after.

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RE: WHO CARES??????? THE WORD IS BREWING THAT OBAMA WILL LET GO –WHO KNOWS?????
Posted by: Bibsisis on Jan 12, 2009 9:55 PM   
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TWO WORDS: FUCKIN' STUPID!!!!!

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Unaccountable
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 12, 2009 7:26 AM   
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Dick Cheney first admitted to war-crimes on national TV. Then George Bush admitted to war-crimes on national TV.
Those two, and the others involved in America's use of torture, are just laughing at us, because they know that NOBODY (including Obama and especially the Democrats in Congress) will do anything about it. Damn everyone in our government, including the Democrats. They have not only enabled evil, they are party to it.

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KSM MEMORY & TESTIMONY: "Actionable Intelligence" Wasn't the Result of Waterboarding
Posted by: leveymg on Jan 12, 2009 7:53 AM   
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Here's another take on Bush's decision to authorize the waterboarding of KSM and a select group of other "high-value" AQ detainees. They were a group that had been involved in several compartmentalized CIA operations -- involving Jihadist groups in covert paramilitary operations against Russia in Chechnya, among other targets -- that eventually resulted in a meeting in Kuala Lumpur in the first week of January 2000.

That AQ summit, at which the USS Cole and 9/11 attacks were planned, was closely observed by the Agency and a "half-dozen allied services", who had tracked several of the attendees, according to the testimony of George Tenet before the 2002 Congressional Joint Inquiry.

On 01/15/00, two AQ operatives at that meeting -- Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midhar -- landed at LAX, a fact that was noted at CIA Counter-Terrorism Center (CTC), but a warning cable to FBI that was drafted by the Bureau liaison was withhheld by the direct order of the CTC Assn't Director.

The pair - who would go on to hijack Flt. 77 that crashed into the Pentagon - were prepared for their mission by KSM and had worked with several of the others later waterboarded. See,

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» More, More! Posted by: 2dogarage
No assassinations please!
Posted by: 2dogarage on Jan 12, 2009 8:33 AM   
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Death is too good for this bastard!

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For most Americans, Torture is ok if it will stop a 9/11 attack.
Posted by: pfgetty on Jan 12, 2009 8:52 AM   
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Torture is just something we'll have to live with, as long as we believe the 9/11 fairytale. Bush knows that he will never be charged with a crime because the American people really believe it is ok to torture someone that might be involved in 9/11 or some related crime.
Trouble is, 9/11 was not brought to us by the people we torture. 9/11 was an inside job, and the truth has not only been covered up by the government, but it has been censured from us by the media, including Alternet.
So unless Alternet wants to finally do something about the blackout of information about 9/11, we will be stuck with torture.
It is up to Alternet. If Alternet was doing its job, we may have already put Bush and Cheyney behind bars. But Alternet won't do that. And it won't tell us why.

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» Unilateral Alternet ?? Posted by: godsbreath64
Criminal
Posted by: warrior woman on Jan 12, 2009 8:58 AM   
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You know, if you want to see torture of an innocent re-enacted in a movie, go see Slum Dog Millionaire. I pointed out to my friend, this was an innocent man/character and, that, is what we in the US should be afraid of. We're all "ok" with torture as long as we "think" we have the bad guy. It's wrong any way you look at it.

Bush is throwing it in our face and the FOX crew will lap it up.

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RE: TELL ME FRIEND OR FOE---- WHO HAS NOT BEEN EXPOSED
Posted by: Bibsisis on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM   
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Pls, Dwight, go to another blog. This one clearly ain't yours!

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It's easier to read the re-hash about "food nazi moms"
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Jan 12, 2009 9:15 AM   
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I missed the TV interview, and almost wish I hadn't seen it here, because it's gut wrenching, heart breaking, completely depressing and demoralizing to know that nothing will be done about it, that impeachment is "off the table", and that Obama has said nothing about impeaching Bush/Cheney and Co. for war crimes. 20 years from now public TV will have a much repeated two-hour special about how wonderful Dubya was, just as Reagan is being lionized lately.

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» The People's Constitution Posted by: godsbreath64
Indict this bastard on Jan. 21st. (and ground his personal jet.)
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 AM   
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"I said are these tools deemed to be legal? And so we got legal opinions before any decision was made."
. . . .

Opinions from whom? Bush's hand-picked legal staff.

That's like Hitler asking Goebbels and Speer if invading Poland or gassing Jews was legal.

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE PROSECUTE THIS WAR CRIMINAL?!?!

(That is, if you can stop him before he blows town for Paraguay.)

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stormy7
Posted by: STORMY78 on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 AM   
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Why are Bush and Cheney walking free? They have both admitted to authorizing war crimes.
What in the hell is the matter with Obama?

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» RE: stormy7 Posted by: gilliani
» RE: stormy7 Posted by: Bibsisis
Bush admitted to using torture
Posted by: jeaninemolloff on Jan 12, 2009 10:15 AM   
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When did we become a nation of fascists? Torture is never acceptable. It is morally indefensible. Moreover, it never produces 'actionable' intelligence, as the person being tortured will say anything to make his torturers stop. Torture is only favored by governments bent on terrifying their own citizens into blind obedience. This is the ONLY purpose for such actions. Congress does not need to wait for President-Elect Obama to initiate a new special prosecutor under the auspices of a congressional inquiry. Evidence gleaned should then be sent to the international and alternative press, to be used for the prosecutions of all politicos authorizing such evil. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR EQUIVOCATION ON THIS SUBJECT.

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Bull SHIT, The vice Precedant did !!!!
Posted by: godsbreath64 on Jan 12, 2009 10:41 AM   
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Elroy Jetson couldn't authorize the lint out of his navel. Come on!

Must we collectively look even stupider before they leave?

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Obama, said he will create a "fact finding/truth commision"
Posted by: hardwroc on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM   
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Obama did say, that regarding the legal questions concerning the past 8 years, that a "truth" commission would be created and action would happen accordingly.
I personally beleive that he is NOT raging about the criminal activities of Bushco, so as to lull them into a false sense of safety so the commission can study, fact find and prosecute the activities where they broke the law. I suggest that we should maybe allow Obama to assume his position BEFORE we condemn his lack of action. As you should know, he CAN'T do anything until he's actually president.
And he's only gonna be president, not God. The democrats in congress will still need a filibuster proof number to do anything. You might consider raging on the republican obstructionists! You know, remind them of the laws, and their enabling the crimes and aiding and abetting after the fact.
But, please allow the man to become the president before you go nuts on his not doing impossible actions with no authourity.

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Natural born president
Posted by: Basenjis on Jan 12, 2009 11:46 AM   
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C-SPAN listeners were reminded again this morning that some insightful person once said that great presidents are not born--they are made.

Significant changes in government rarely come from the top. They come from farther down on the food chain--from people like you and me who press for change and by doing so, draw out the potential for greatness from the person our votes put in office.

Obama's professional advisors at the top are far outnumbered by the ordinary Americans who put him in office. Once in office, he is accountable to the voters. That's us. But we need to keep in mind that voting was only the beginning of our responsibilities. Now, if we find our new president is not true to his public, we are obligated to press for fullfilment of those wonderful promises of change that rolled so elegantly off that silver tongue.

Feet to the fire is the strategy, and the next, and the next, too, as long and as much as is necessary. We have a constitutional right to be heard. And if it means continual feet to the fire, so be it.

If we have learned one lesson from this past miserable excuse for leadership, it's that presidents and their powerful circles of professionals need to be held responsible for their deeds.

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What's with the true confessions, already?
Posted by: willymack on Jan 12, 2009 8:29 PM   
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First, Quasimodo, now Chimpy. Are they looking for forgiveness, or just so cocksure they'll never be punished? I've got your forgiveness, right here! We've simply GOT to take these assholes to court.

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Jeb in 2012 !
Posted by: That_SOB on Jan 13, 2009 12:10 AM   
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Does this mean that Obama will keep the plaque that is presently on bush's desk? The one that says:
"The buck stops here" with arrows pointing to every direction save the presidents chair ?
The only way to get bush is by a syndicate of progressive attorneys who band together to bring
charges against bush one charge after another until
something sticks.
Unfortunatly, the best we can hope for is exposure of the wrongs bush/cheney have committed, such as war crimes and breach of the Constitution. Ex-presidents don't go to jail, and if bush is smart he will stay out of other countries as there are people who can and will take him to *The Hague Court" for war crimes. Actually the court can take place anywhere according to International Law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court
bush is just stupid and arrogant enough to go see his old 'British Poodle,' at least we can hold out hope.

Supposedly bush is a fighter pilot and has a MBA.
We should collectively give bush a hemp farm in Venezuela and a jet to get there with. A thank you, for all the humanitarian deeds he has done such as the aid he provided for to New Orleans.(sic)
I'm always touched when I remember the empathy Babb's
showed to the people of New Orleans, doesn't her altruistic acts just tug at your heart strings ?
Perhaps that jet could seat a dozen.

Do you think the Mayans foresaw Jeb as president in 2012 ?
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We can't buy a new planet.

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