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Did Dick Cheney Just Confess to a War Crime on National TV?

Posted by ZP Heller, Brave New Films at 1:36 PM on December 17, 2008.


The VP and his hubris have finally gone too far.

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Not only has the Bush administration committed war crimes in plain sight, but now Dick Cheney is freely confessing it on national television.  In an interview with ABC, Cheney admitted he directly authorized the CIA to use highly controversial enhanced interrogation tactics like waterboarding, as well as the torture of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad. 

Cheney showed no regret.  In fact, he spoke with such insouciance it was almost as though the administration hadn't repeatedly denied authorizing use of these tactics over the years.  (Of course, Cheney still denies waterboarding constitutes torture.)  What's more, he actually praised the Guantánamo Bay prison facility.  "Guantánamo has been very well run," he said, claiming it should remain open indefinitely.  

Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU with whom Brave New Foundation created the Close Gitmo campaign, had this to say: 

"The current administration's torture policies and fundamentally flawed military commissions make a mockery of the Constitution and violate America's commitment to human rights. Contrary to the vice president's opinion, these detainees should be prosecuted in U.S. military or civilian courts that are fully equipped to handle complex national security cases."

Cheney's confession is part of a broader effort from the intelligence community to justify the Bush administration's use of torture in an attempt to keep Gitmo open, keep the unconstitutional military commissions going, and keep torture on the table.  It's as though they think that if they say it freely and openly enough, then we will just have to overlook the fact that they're confessing to war crimes! 

We must urge President-elect Obama to close Gitmo and shut down these commissions.  Then, we must play Cheney's interview on every political blog out there in an effort to command the attention of Congress and the DOJ.  Cheney and his hubris have finally gone too far.  Here's hoping a war crimes tribunal one day replays this interview at his trial. 

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Tagged as: 9/11, torture, dick cheney, keith olbermann, gitmo, guantanamo bay, waterboarding, jonathan turley

ZP Heller is the editorial director of Brave New Films. He has written for The American Prospect, AlterNet, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and The Huffington Post, covering everything from politics to pop culture.


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Posted by: 876 on Dec 17, 2008 2:50 PM   
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The problem is that most Americans are racists who feel they are entitled to commit war crimes especially against non European peoples. Had these crimes been carried out against Europeans you would likely see action by the public. Not that they would be carried out against European peoples. It is also likely that for these reasons the American public will stand by and do nothing to their criminal government. Meanwhile they continue to murder impoverished people in Iraq and Afghanistan for one day of terror by Saudi Arabs while they are certain their new president should serve as enough reason to wipe their list of crimes against humanity clean. The average American feels that Muslims are deserving of water boarding, torture, even death.

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» RE: 876 Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» Dude, you need to get out more! Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: 876 Posted by: Natasha_W
» RE: 876 Posted by: Denver Dem
Why worry?
Posted by: Rod on Dec 17, 2008 5:55 PM   
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When you have a pardon just before inauguration day waiting for you.

Rod

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» RE: Why worry? Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
» RE: Why worry? Posted by: JSquercia
Armed Services Committee Accuses Bush of War Crimes...
Posted by: gar1948 on Dec 17, 2008 6:29 PM   
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... and you would think this would be big news but even Alternet has not carried it! I would like to know why not.

The report is titled "Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into The Treatment Of Detainees In U.S. Custody" From the opening paragraphs:

Al Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are taught to expect Americans to abuse them. They are recruited based on false propaganda that says the United States is out to destroy Islam. Treating detainees harshly only reinforces that distorted view, increases resistance to cooperation, and creates new enemies. In fact, [it is]...an underlying factor fueling the spread of the global jihadist movement....

The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of "a few bad apples" acting on their own. The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality, and authorized their use against detainees. Those efforts damaged our ability to collect accurate intelligence that could save lives, strengthened the hand of our enemies, and compromised our moral authority.


The report goes on to name names and trace orders. It tells what happened and who authorized it.

It leaves us with three conclusions:

Senate Armed Services Committee Conclusions

Conclusion 1: On February 7, 2002, President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees. Following the President's determination, techniques such as waterboarding, nudity, and stress positions, used in SERE [Survival Evasion Resistance Escape] training to simulate tactics used by enemies that refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions, were authorized for use in interrogations of detainees in U.S. custody.

Conclusion 2: Members of the President's Cabinet and other senior officials participated in meetings inside the White House in 2002 and 2003 where specific interrogation techniques were discussed. National Security Council Principals reviewed the CIA's interrogation program during that period.

Conclusions on SERE Training Techniques and Interrogations

Conclusion 3: The use of techniques similar to those used in SERE resistance training — such as stripping students of their clothing, placing them in stress positions, putting hoods over their heads, and treating them like animals — was at odds with the commitment to humane treatment of detainees in U.S. custody. Using those techniques for interrogating detainees was also inconsistent with the goal of collecting accurate intelligence information, as the purpose of SERE resistance training is to increase the ability of U.S. personnel to resist abusive interrogations and the techniques used were based, in part, on Chinese Communist techniques used during the Korean War to elicit false confessions.


So, I ask again, why isn't this big news? Why hasn't there been articles on Alternet about it? Here we have a bipartisan committee of the United States Senate publicly releasing a summary of a report (the full report is still classified, although Committee Chairman Carl Levin has called for it to be declassified) unanimously, that details war crimes by the highest government officials in the land and there is NO OUTCRY! Why? Why?

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» NO OUTCRY! Why? Why? Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» RE: NO OUTCRY! Why? Why? Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: NO OUTCRY! Why? Why? Posted by: Lauren
Nancy Pelosi Has Blocked Impeachment Hearings
Posted by: ATH on Dec 18, 2008 2:45 AM   
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Because she was briefed on this torture agenda, and I'm sure she was threatened by Cheney that he would bring her down with them--if not legally, certainly politically.
This is pretty well known, but I knew for sure it was true when she DID allow the House Judiciary Committee a meeting on "Presidential abuse of power" after Dennis Kucinich returned, after submitting 35 Articles of Impeachment, with One--that Bush had deceived the people and Congress into going into war in Iraq. She was against the war, and this Article did not incriminate her.
Anyway, at this meeting, which DID turn out to be a "pseudo-hearing on Impeachment" due to the fact that a few Democrats with spine, like Robert Wexler, pushed it in this direction. But at one point, one Republican on the Committee got so mad that he asked if Nancy Pelsoi could be summoned to appear before the Committee, and implied that she had knowledge of the torture that was going on...
Even if this is not the reason, she has kept Impeachment Hearings from coming to a vote in the House, where Impeachment proceedings must begin...

When you look at the true history of our country and our people, you see a history of violence, beginning, in this country's founding, with the slaughter and near genocide, as well as fraud and trickery and treachery, of the Native Peoples of this land, who had dwelt here in harmony with nature for thousands of years.

We put a man on the moon, we mapped the human DNA sequence, yet we still have racism, bigotry, ignorance, illitercy, starvation, homelessness, greed, corruption, oppression, and we can't seem to stop killing each other and mother Earth...

What is wrong with us?

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» What U mean wrong with US white man? Posted by: common intelligence
RE: These bastards need to be tried.
Posted by: limburger on Dec 19, 2008 9:21 AM   
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Message to Pelosi: you have won the re-election already; no need to worry about dick's re-election blackmail. This is the time to get it done Nancy. Just remember that Cindy Sheehan will still be there if you cannot impeach these war criminals.

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FACT: Bush and Cheney Are War Criminals
Posted by: left_libertarian on Dec 17, 2008 9:13 PM   
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Too bad the Democrats are too spineless to bring them to trial.

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DEMOCRATE OR NO DEMOCRATE
Posted by: master09 on Dec 17, 2008 10:28 PM   
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I want justice, we want justice, those SOB has damage this country. I voted for Obama but he better be thinking about justice; having jobs and helping everyone realize the american dream is fine but it dont mean sh*t if you let criminals trash the constitution.I WANT THE TRUTH and yes I can handle the TRUTH as long as it put Chaney in jail. That arrogant SOB !!

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This too shall pass
Posted by: jbro434 on Dec 18, 2008 3:24 AM   
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If it is not the top story on CNN, FOX, CBS, etc., then this too shall pass.
As long as people in the mainstream media continue to treat Kucinich, Paul, Wexler,etc. like extremist nut jobs, then this too shall pass.
If Obama does not address this issue and decides to act like a middle manager instead of a leader and tells the people of the United States that what you REALLY care about is loosing your jobs and paying your mortgages, then this too shall pass.
As long as Americans scream at their computers instead of screaming at the top of their lungs in large numbers on the streets, then this too shall pass.
This has been in plain view for a long time. America has been stealing, torturing, murdering foreign leaders and backing coupes for many years. It is just going to be another chapter in the sad history of the self proclaimed greatest nation on earth.

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» RE: This too shall pass Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
» It's a Big Daddy World Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: It's a Big Daddy World Posted by: schiffer
» RE: It's a Big Daddy World Posted by: davewuxi
» Is that all you've got? Posted by: 2dogarage
Dick Hurts!
Posted by: Ottomatic on Dec 18, 2008 3:53 AM   
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Shoots you in the face.
Pied in the Eye!
Come Shot
Lay back relax
Turn on the Indoctrination set and
Eat some Cheat-tos

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The truth is everyone does not want the truth and is afraid to admit it.
Posted by: Nightstallion on Dec 18, 2008 3:53 AM   
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The truth is you would rather not know what the truth is and are afraid to admit it even to yourselves. This man made monster passing through your living co-ordinates is your gift to yourselves for wanting Safety and Security in your lives. You have paid with the most salient portions that the bill of rights and the United States Constitution had to offer us.

By limiting what we can say in public about ANYTHING even if it is in poor taste and bears a hateful message we have closed a door behind which evil can grow. By allowing men like these who are preparing to leave the White House to have entered to begin with we have sown the seeds of our own destruction. How else could it be when where ever you look men who were born free are in chains of their own devising?

You all by your own permission have stood by and allowed this government, to serveil your private thoughts and lives in the name of security. More is the pity you see nothing wrong in this. You have allowed this same government to feed you and your children drugs that limit the cognitive process. I have seen you strain at Gnats of logical progression and swallow whole Camels of unconnected thoughts simply because you like the adrenaline rush it gives you.

It has made you subject to any one with the intestinal fortitude to strut up, grab your “reigns” in the form of whatever addictive concept you might have to control you. Again you prove my point because now you are becoming angry at the messenger! The truth has teeth like daggers that may rend and tear preconceived notions to shreds. NO ONE IS SAFE!

You must watch your own fold, do not trust any government to do it! That way lays annihilation. It will be hard to control your own life. All these modern conveniences are very enticing, but you are paying for them with your children’s future. If you can barter and trade your way through this you will survive. Be prepared to lose technology, the way the world is set up now very little can be kept.

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Time to enforce "the world change" as "we the people".
Posted by: larazzafilms on Dec 18, 2008 5:09 AM   
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I continue to read the reactions of the readers; frustration seems to be setting in deeper under the skin. My question is....can other world countries bring up charges against the incompetent prior administration and its engineers of human weapons of mass destruction. If so, "we" as the people of this nation need to support the world communities who feel and demand justice to be served handing over such engineers as The "Dick" Cheney. I can clearly remember President Bush giving the Hussein Family 24 hours to leave their country avoiding certain death. Well, I feel that the same altamadedum should be given to those creative thinkers of this concept. For the sake of human rights and the equal respect given to the world, especially those countries who feel they have a genuine concern to see these individuals brought to world justice. I am in full support of this approach. We as a true country of "equal justice for all" need to embrace together and provide the honesty in which we still believe in. United by millions to address our concern and reveal the truth in executing this realization helping to enforce fair justice within world humanity. Let this be a lesson to other possible world leaders who may have had an incubating covert agenda against the rights of other human beings. If we set an new reform exsample, they are certainly far from interior protection. It all starts with us and in order to truly set an example, we must demonstrate one to follow. America, it is that time and this is a true measurement of chacter rewriting the constitution of world justice. No one is above one nation under God!

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War Crimes charges against Cheney must stand!
Posted by: gwazdos1 on Dec 18, 2008 5:12 AM   
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This arrogrant piece of shit for a vice-pres. must be charged with War Crimes and NO PARDON. He belongs in jail for justice for the 4210 American Soldiers killed in his fake war, and add 64,168 American soldiers wounded in Iraq that cannot get their proper care or benefits, while this piece of cow dust get richer and richer thanks to Halliburton and Exxon, Him worry about money, phew! We are screwed again Americans!

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If I were a high official in the Bush Administration...
Posted by: QuestionAuthority on Dec 18, 2008 5:49 AM   
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...I don't think I'd leave the US for the rest of my life. The chances of being arrested and tried for war crimes is always a possibility outside of the US border...

Wouldn't it be ironic if one or more of these guys was "rendered" to another country to stand trial?

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Undermined his Own last Excuse
Posted by: Purple Girl on Dec 18, 2008 5:52 AM   
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Saddam had no WMD's
Saddam had no Connection to AQ
Saddam had not Harbored AQ
Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
Saddam had nothing to do with Anthrax
So it was down to Saddam was a 'Bad man' -
He Tortured and Oppressed his people
He had multitudes of people murdered because they were considered a threat to 'Order'. Instead of trying to work out grievances with these factions, He bombed them, or kidnapped them, held them prisoner for indefinite periods of time and torutured them.
"Liberators" Do NOT incorporate the offending methods of maintaining order as the Deposed Regime.
We had already lost every other way, but as soon as the first prisoner was tortured in Iraq, with an American participating, supervising,Instructing or even mere knowing, the Iraqi War was a Failure.
Even a life long Peacenik, like me, could have taken a bit a solace knowing we had freed another group of people from such atrocities. Had that been the Real intention, it would have worked. But the goal was far less noble than that and for that fact all was lost from the beginning.Really who couldn't see the Hypocracy in the authorization of torture methods? It not only undermined this 'missions' claimed purpose, it has brought into question every action our nation has taken in the past and into the future.
If you are going into free the people, you don't use strongarm tactics. 'Hearts & Minds'..We're they referring to what is examined by the medical professional after a toruture session?
Torture Is alone what negates their last arguement as to why it was imparative we Invade Iraq. How many people would have been beaten, tortured, imprisoned and murdered by Saddam over the last 5 yrs. What's Bushco's Score on all those crimes?
Waterboarding, Extreme Rendition, suspension of legal proceedings,Breaking Geneva Conv. rules, Rewritting laws which prohibit it, Hiring For Profit Mercenary Contractors...All Prove there was Never a Desire to Free the Iraqi People, but control them using the same tactics the last Ruling party used.
Why should we be surprised to hear the Iraqi Journalist is reported to have broken bones, internal bleeding and other signs of having been beaten. For throwing a Damn Shoe, he's gotten the shit kicked out of him. That outrages me on various levels. Of course the Human element is utmost of my rage. But really it also strikes right at my patriotic heart. We have allowed such heinous crimes to continue, not only being committed by US, but by the Gov't which was Supposed to be the Iraqi's Future. We've paid in blood, treasure and reputation to FREE the people of Iraq, and we have given them yet another tyrannt.Least We forget some people in Power Here helped Saddam rise to & maintain power.Were those Our biologicals used on the Kurds?
So we saved no one from WMD's and We Freed No one.
Cheney has confessed to have went in to Iraq for Purely Oil.Which would be divvied up between the Oil Corps. Neither the Iraqi's Nor US will have any claim to the resource, just like every other sap on the 'Open' market. He betrayed (and used) our country to serve the interest of Corps. He did not Protect & Defend US, nor our constitution, Infact he put all in peril. This is Cheney's Second On Air confession that he no longer served the People... "So" when asked his thouhgts about 3/4 of Americans want out of Iraq.He has not only Broken his Oath of office, he has acted in direct conflict to it.Treason.
To me this issue ranks second after the Economy as to what Pres Obama must focus on immediately. We must show We still practice Justice here, esp in regards to crimes as vast and encompassing as These.

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» Saddam Hussein died for our sins. Posted by: common intelligence
The Nuremberg Trials Were To Punish Other War Criminals Not Our Own.
Posted by: PARRYISLE on Dec 18, 2008 6:50 AM   
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One of those mentioned in JFK's ""Profiles in Courage" was the leading Republican contender for the presidency at the time, Senator Robert Taft of Ohio. Taft was heavily criticized for his comments criticizing the Nuremberg Trials which hanged some of the Nazi war criminals. Taft feared the trial would set a precedent that could be used in the future against our military and poitical leaders. Rest peacefully in your final abode, Mr. Taft, because no American has ever faced such a fear despite the numerous war crimes our leaders have initiated since the Nazis were hanged. Hey, that's what being a Superpower is all about, right?

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Monster
Posted by: QQOblivion on Dec 18, 2008 7:10 AM   
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Ch***y is just laughing at all of us, because he knows he will NEVER (except maybe in the after-life, if there is one) be held accountable for his war-crimes by anyone, even though he has admitted to those crimes!
(Hmmm... Maybe Cheney is admitting to these war-crimes now so that President Bush can pardon him.)


This monster (Cheney) is a vile evil pus-infused cancerous tumor. He has no purpose but to be the opposite of all that is good in this world.

If anyone deserves to be tortured, it is Dick Cheney. But does ANYONE deserve to be tortured? No, not even the Devil. And certainly not those (often innocent) people who were tortured in Americans' names.

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» RE: Monster Posted by: Quannah
Nancy Pelosi is the one living reason I started calling her Party DemonRats!
Posted by: Nightstallion on Dec 18, 2008 8:13 AM   
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And everyone knows why the other Party is Republi Con! From those guys you allways expected a Con because they refer to them selves as a WE not an I. That makes them openly a mob in my book.

Nancy Pelosi lied to her constituents openly and said she would push for an impeachment. When that did not happen why was she not fired? I think it is because she is part of a DemonRat nest. The Democrats are not democrats they are the other half of the same coin! So I went shopping for a new party.

From that day forward I became a States Rights Activist, the party already in place to do that job is called the Confederation of Individual States. I do not buy the bit about that Civil War being about Slavery anymore because when I researched it I found more slaves were owned North of the mason dixon line than south of it.

Abe Lincoln pulled the Cobra out of the Basket on that lie by declaring an end of Slavery as his goal. I understand the reasoning but not the act. Barring the Slavery angle,States Rights are all that started it, and that was enough for me. I have been a Confederate ever since.

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Presidential Pardon
Posted by: shipmate on Dec 18, 2008 12:07 PM   
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It should only apply after convictions and definitely not to crimes committed for which the International court in denHague would be responsible. Warcrimes definitely qualify and that draftdodger Cheney deserves punishment similar to those previously condemned for warcrimes (Nuremberg?)

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Hurray for Cheney!!!!!!!!
Posted by: knight on Dec 18, 2008 12:53 PM   
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Frankly I don t give ahoot that these terrorists are being inconvinienced by a little water in their nostrils and mouth,is it torture? may be,but while we are fighting an unconventional,ruthless,mercyless enemy,I have no problem in using all means to our disposal to extract information from these barbarians,don t forget that if they ever capture one of our boys they will more than likely behead him or rape her if a woman,Gitmo last time I heard has provided so comfortable acomodations that some of them when being honest say that they don t want to go back to their God forsaken lands,weather this comentarist and the ACLU know it or not,we are at war with terrorists,and if given a chance they will kill all infidels,liberal or conservative,when I worked in Irak I saw the indiscriminate violence,death and destruction that these little darlings that the ACLU cares so much about have inflicted on their own people,so do I lose sleep that these darlings are inconvenienced? NOT,I lose sleep that they are not inconvenienced enough,waterboarding torture?,hah I ve seen torture survivors,now how many ways to torture,and we are bent out of shape about a little water? C'mon,unless you have a family member who was killed by a terrorist,or have suffered torture,real torture,your opinion matters very little to most thinking people,I say we are at war,let s finish it,win it as humanly as possible,but let s not put hurdles to our intelligence officers or our military personal,and let s use all means at our disposal. screw the ACLU and Mr Romero.

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» RE: Rinse, Repeat! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Hurray for Cheney!!!!!!!! Posted by: Bliss Doubt
The nation has been seezed by Pirates. What are you going to do?
Posted by: common intelligence on Dec 18, 2008 5:37 PM   
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Every bastard in Washington is shaking in their shoes today.

They all know the country is in dire straits. All we hear from them is wishy-washy stalling, deception, and irresponsible weasling tracks, trying to paint a picture of reconciliation of leadership gone bad.

Everyone in the Bush Administartion is guity of negligence of duty.
Almost all of congress is guilty of compliciency.

Have you noticed how an Illinois governer can be brought up on Impeachment charges for selling a seat, but The preisdent that has destroyed this nation and is responsible for destroying a whole civilization including innocent women, men, and children and maimed countless civilians, from around the world, is being ignored?
What in hell is going on in this country?
My God!
Wake the fuck up! people.

The Government is DEAD.
It is the problem of the people to fix it. Solutions are not coming out of Washington. Only cover ups.
The tasks that need to be done are dauntingly impossible to bring about before a complete disarray of finacial system can be stopped.

Man, poor Obama. DO you think you've all put him on too higha pedetal?

Ladies and Gentlemen. Now is the time to come to the aid of the country. Do not put it off any longer, making an effort to
Push for Accountability.
Nation needs to make a world example of the strength of the American people because the world knows the US GOVERNMENT can not be trusted, in any way.

The fiat currancy the government keeps printing up is sending this country in to economic hell. (Besides, where is it? Everyone is broke?)

The Whole corporate investment market system is a corrupt model that can not exist and be righteous.

The characturistics of capitalism, as they are trying to salvage, is a cover up of an impossible task, being postponed.

The economic model this nation was living under and pushed on the rest of the world never was good to begin with or it would not have come to this point. It really is that simple.

So for the likes of Bernake, Paulson, Greenspan, and all the great nasdicks, Blue chip husslers you have to push that these pyramid scammers be jailed as well as the new ponzi master Madoff.

Childhood math class can tell anyone that this way of keeping books straight was corrupt from the beginning.

NO ONE GETS A BIGGER PIECE OF PIE THAT SOMEONE ELSE DOESN"T GET A SMALLER PIECE.

But they where all telling us that just isn't true. Literally I heard some say that exact claim.

Well, now we all know the truth about money!

So, What do "WE the PEOPLE" do?
Certainly killing terrorists 12,000 mile away won't help this country recover.

The first thing the stewertess says on the plane, when telling you about the emergency air mask, is PUT IT ON YOURSELF FIRST!

How the hell can we help anyone else when we can't even help ourselves?

Boy, it's going to be a bitch, the next years!

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So?
Posted by: willymack on Dec 18, 2008 6:42 PM   
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Ol' Quasimodo came right out and said he gave the OK for tourture to take place. Right there, for all and sundry to see and hear. This is nothing less than an insulting challenge to Congress, the Senate, the Justice Department, and the people to do something about it. Of course, NOBODY will do a goddamn thing, because we're all milquetoasts, cowards, nincompoops-you supply the word. He's throwing his criminality in our faces because he knows damn well he'll get away with it. We won't last another 20 years as a country, at this rate.

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War Crime Trials for Bush Administration
Posted by: ron heringhauser on Dec 22, 2008 5:13 PM   
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America has lost it's way, just as Germany did leading up to the rise of Hitler. Our politicians are for the most part puppets of the central bankers who control corporate America. What we are living under is Corporate Fascism, backed by the military-industrial complex. We are heading into a severe depression which will culminate in martial law, with the military and Obama's million man stazi youth corp attempting to keep order. The civil unrest going on in Greece, Iceland, Thiland, Burma etc., are just the first ripples in the pond of what we will be facing in 09. The One World Order (Bilderbergers, CFR, Trilateral Commission, WTO, IMF, Ilummanitti) power mad, greedy, evil scum, have destroyed the worldwide economy in order to further their agenda. Americans have a long history of freedom, and gun ownership, that may cause the second American Revolution. The first step we must take is ending the private banking cartel, The criminal Federal Reserve.

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