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It's 2008, and the Income Gender Gap Is Still Alive and Well

Posted by Allison Martell, Feministe at 3:14 PM on July 17, 2008.


Even when researchers try to correct for differences in education and work experience, a 20% gap in earnings still persists.
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Several of you have asked for a post about the wage gap. I’ve held off, because it’s a huge topic –- really, most of my own blog circles back to income one way or another. But I get that not everyone feels like spending a few weeks, months, or years on this stuff, so I’ll try to quickly bring you up to speed.

The bottom line is that researchers haven’t been able to account for all of the pay gap between men and women. We know that part of it is about informal caregiving, which still overwhelmingly falls to women. On average, thanks to our other commitments, we have less formal work experience, and that translates to lower income, though in many cases it means that we work more hours in total.

Nonetheless, even when researchers try to correct for differences in education and work experience, the gender gap persists, suggesting that something else is at work. Feministe commenter Sappho pointed us towards this US Census report, complete with a dizzying number of charts and graphs. It quotes a GAO report:

When we account for difference between male and female work patterns as well as other key factors, women earned, on average, 80 percent of what men earned in 2000… Even after accounting for key factors that affect earnings, our model could not explain all of the differences in earnings between men and women.

What’s the source of that additional 20 per cent gap? I’d say it’s some part straightforward sexism –- unequal pay for equal work –- paired with workplace atmospheres that discourage women from excelling. Unfortunately, this stuff is tough to measure. Part of it also probably has to do with negotiation.

Those who dismiss the pay gap as yesterday’s problem also tend to associate the gap that remains with choice in a very positive way. I think this has to do with the way economists view specialization -- for more of my take on that, you can check out this post -- but we should remember a couple things about caregiving and choice. First, don’t assume that women who work part time or are returning from a few years at home are paid less because they actually are less valuable than their male coworkers. It could just be a different sort of sexism -- in all sorts of contexts, women are held to higher standards than men.

Second, this is not about individual choice -- as Slacker, another commenter (what would I do without you?) pointed out: "reproductive choices of women in general affect labor market treatment of a woman whether she intends to have children or not." In other words, you’re likely to suffer from your employer’s expectation that you will have children and take time out to care for them, even if you never intend to take a maternity leave.

It’s true -- the wage gap has a lot to do with the way we organize family life. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t talk about how to close it.

Further Reading

As Kathy G. points out, Echidne of the Snakes has written a full series of posts on the pay gap. (While you’re over there, also check out her superb Statistics Primer -- it will make everything else easier to understand.) The National Women’s Law Center put together an excellent fact sheet for the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act earlier this year, and it’s still worth a read. The American Association of University Women Educational Foundation (there’s a mouthful!) put out a report called Behind the Pay Gap last year -- check out the press kit.


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How very petty
Posted by: rickiey on Jul 17, 2008 4:19 PM   
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A wage gap is a minor petty discrimination compared to the discrimination against men that the family courts practice.

Who gives a damn about income when you are losing custody of your kids merely because you possess the incorrect genitalia?

Lets talk about the REAL victims, shall we? Men, and the kids they don't get custody of.

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i'm 28 years old
Posted by: sashi on Jul 17, 2008 8:20 PM   
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and a girl. you know what that means?

that mothers who have kids dump their extra work on me.

the men that i work with are in management, not peers.

i'm expected to eventually have kids and miss some work because of it.---> those of you who leave work early, take daycare calls at work, etc. give me a bad name.

i work hard, i never miss work, i do the over time that moms "won't" do. and you know what? i have actually been told by interviewers that because i'm young and unmarried, i'm expected to get married, have kids and miss work. so, i can't have one of those high paying management jobs.

i'm educated, a hard worker and very intelligent. a model employee. however, a large part of the gender gap in pay is that a LOT of mothers miss more work than they think due to their children, a lot of the time, they're physically there, but not mentally.

ITS ALL IN NEGOTIATION

this is a huge reason and should not be discounted: women are primary caretakers for the most part, and HAVE to have the job---they often don't have the luxury to wait around and potentially NOT get the job. especially if they're single mothers.

so, as awful as it sounds, be introspective: do you REALLY work as hard as the childless?

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Professor of Law and Economics
Posted by: graywolf83 on Jul 18, 2008 9:12 AM   
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Since the "discovery" that women are paid less than men for the same work, the amount of time, energy and resources wasted in an effort to "prove" these differences were not a product of gender discrimination is amazing. Every conceivable excuse has been used to try to justify the differences in pay between men and women for equal work. Save the wasted money and time and pay women what they deserve: the same pay as men for equal work.

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THINK. THINK. THINK. YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR FINGERS ON SOMETHING FAR MORE
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 20, 2008 12:59 AM   
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important than you know. Yes, equality for women is important. But, as a nation we now face inequality in ALL forms of employment from everywhere else in the world.

The formulas you have been perfecting can be applied to demonstrate the inequality that all of us face from international competition. Some device must be worked to let the American worker stand on level ground with the rest of the world. What are we waiting for?

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oxheadone
Posted by: oxheadone on Jul 20, 2008 11:04 PM   
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In the Bible women are valued at 2/3 the value of men. 80% today indicates some improvement over time. Actually, labor market participation by women began with WWI., and serious work competition with men dates from WWII. A 15% improvement in about 50 years is slow but positive.

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