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HPV Vaccine Opponents Put Men At Risk Too

Posted by Amanda Marcotte, Pandagon at 2:37 PM on May 13, 2008.


A study linking HPV to oral cancer in men puts anti-choice advocates between a rock and a hard place.
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PZ reports that researchers have discovered a link between HPV and oral cancers in men, justifying another look at vaccinating young men for HPV (which also improves herd immunity). So now, as PZ notes, the religious right is facing a major dilemma. It’s one thing to tolerate thousands of deaths from cervical cancer, which only affects women, in order to show that the wages of sin are death. But the sin of fornication is a much different thing for men and women—which is why the nuts say that a woman who has sex is impure and contaminated, but a man who does has just let his integrity slip a little, which is something you can get back by giving your bus seat up to a few old ladies. Certainly, we don’t need straight men getting physically contaminated for real to show that sex is contaminating, when the only spiritually contaminated party is the woman. That’s why, after all, it’s not a sign of integrity for a man to have sex with a woman before marriage, because you’re fouling up someone else’s virgin.

Anyway, PZ has a question.

Now the religious right is going to face a dilemma. Shall they encourage this vaccination to protect their precious boy-children, or will it be sufficient to scream against the sin of heterosexual oral sex from the pulpit? And can they even bear to talk about such ‘bizarre’ sexual practices in church?
Being a long-time wingnut watcher, I propose that their response to the dilemma will largely be to pretend it doesn’t exist. Inconvenient facts aren’t grappled with in the anti-choice world. If it doesn’t fit their arguments, they push it aside 99.9% of the time. No matter how many times it’s pointed out to anti-choicers that late term abortions are performed for health and safety reasons, and not just as a fad diet plan or whatever they think it is that women are doing, they simply don’t acknowledge it. We’re talking people who bald-faced tell girls that having a baby at 15 is no big deal, something you can walk off with a sensible diet and exercise plan. (See this week’s podcast for a jaw-dropping example.) Apparently, as long as you pretend it’s not real, it’s not. Sadly, the constructed reality model is working out pretty well for them, as evidenced by the government support for their fantasies over the evidence-based, reality-honoring arguments.

Anyway, cunnilingus is so gay. Why on earth would a warm-blooded heterosexual Christian man want to put his mouth on the penis sleeve, if not because he secretly likes to taste cock salt? Oral cancer is a sign that someone was homosexing up the sacred heterosexual bedroom, and so preventing it would be thwarting god’s homophobic will.

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Posted by: ninjanurse on May 13, 2008 4:15 PM   
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remember that viruses are efficient and targeted life forms that don't waste any energy debating the fine points of religion. they will grow wherever they have the opportunity. if you are scared of vaccines, please consider this--
polio, smallpox, rubella, meningitis, varicella, pertussis...
mother nature can be a bitch, make your best informed choice for your children when you decide between risk and benefit.

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Enough!
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM   
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The Radical Republican Redneck Relgious Right will never be swayed by science, logic or compassion. They would rather let people get HIV and die of AIDS than distribute condoms or clean syringes and needles, even though the evidence is clear that these programs do not increase the incidence of casual sex or drug use. They'd rather let women die of infection or bleeding due to illicit abortions than allow safe, medically performed ones, even though legalization has not increased the number of abortions.

This isn't righteousness, it's self-righteousnes. It isn't holiness, it's hypocrisy. It isn't smart, it's smarmy. The Europeans, Australians and Canadians are much more mature and sensible about these things than we are, because they are less religious or at least less conservative in their religion.

People love bashing Jeremiah Wright, but compare his record with Robertson, Dobson, Hagee, Parsley and the late Falwell and he comes off pretty well.

It's about time we took the country back from the Christian conservatives who, in their support of all things Republican, have gleefully enabled wars of aggression, torture, massive tax breaks for the rich and deficit spending, denial of healthcare to children, war profiteering, political manipulation of the justice system, environmental degradation, irresponsible energy policy and a major recession.

The GOP induced them to damage their own and our country's interests in so many ways in return for a few absurd concessions on social issues, and they delightedly trotted off the cliff like a herd of demon-infested swine. Enough!

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OK -White Flag on this one
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 14, 2008 7:28 AM   
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No doubt things would be very different if the Religious Zealots were kicked out of society governing decisions
Here's my ponder- if the Gov't ahs the right to force women to give Birth , does it no tfollow they should be able to force men to be 'Gelded' esp those who have proven they take no responsiblity 'once they zip up their zippers' (My grandmother informative talk). should we have mandates for Sterilation for irresponsible 'Johnny Apple seeds'
I think th eGutting of Roe v Wade is aslippery slope for men- it will open Pandoras Box where she keeps her 'Snipers'. In fact since it takes far less men to keep our species viable perhaps males should be evaluated for their genetic attributes, Strengths & Weakness.
NOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS???HUMAN RIGHTS AND PRIVACY???

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Anyone know the cheapest place to get the vaccine?
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 14, 2008 10:34 AM   
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Either stores or doctors in the U.S. or from Canada?

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Oh Amanda, come on, puhleez
Posted by: DaBear on May 15, 2008 9:33 AM   
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Very funny rant but harping harder to push a vaccine fraught with testing errors and dubious FDA approval just makes your funny piece sound desperate.

Your position on vaccinations is just as bad as the Xtian nationalist's on gay marriage, sex, and the rest of the laundry list: you just want everyone to do things your way, all or nothing.

When the HPV vaccine works against all the strains and not merely four, and the direct causal relationship is firmly established (as opposed to the correlative link that predicated the two vaccines on/about to come to market via fast track), is actually sufficiently tested in real clinical trials and not the fast-track bullshit this one got, then we can talk about your big brother campaign for mandated forced public injections. Until then, lets drop the conflation and fallacy nonsense.

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