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Obama and Bush, Staying in Touch?

Posted by Sam Stein, Huffington Post at 10:50 AM on May 23, 2009.


Obama has talked with Bush since the inauguration.
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The ongoing spat between the Obama White House and former vice president Dick Cheney has, to a large extent, marginalized the one other figure with serious chips in the current national security debate. George W. Bush has faded into private life with only the rare public utterance. And by ceding the task of defense to the second in command, it's become more and more apparent that, towards the end of the previous administration, Bush and Cheney did not see eye to eye on these matters.

In an interview with C-SPAN that will air in entirety at 10.a.m. Saturday, President Barack Obama acknowledged having had conversations with Bush since leaving office, though he insisted on abiding by "a general policy of keeping confidence with your predecessor."

More telling was that later in the segment Obama offered the slightest bit of rationalization for the past administration's national security policies. And, more to the point, he made note that there were two distinct threads of thought that personified the Bush administration's approach to holding and trying detainees.

"I think there was a period of time, right after 9/11, understandably because people were fearful, where I think we cut too many corners and made some decisions that were contrary to who we are as a people," Obama told C-SPAN. "I think there were adjustments that were made even within the Bush administration to try and deal with some of those mistakes. There are still consequences though to some of those earlier poor decisions and I think Guantanamo was one of them."

The extent of Obama's relationship to Bush is one of those intriguing and mysterious subplots to the current debate with Cheney. For starters, the former president has given his successor the freedom and time to craft his own policy without criticism. And the relationship has been mutually beneficial. The Obama White House has praised Bush for his assistance during the transition.

As the president begins crafting his approach to detainee policy, the ability to illuminate the frictions of the past White House and make Bush seem a sympathetic figure could prove politically beneficial. Obama may be inching closer to his predecessor's position -- Bush after all, called for the closing

of Gitmo late in his administration -- but he is nowhere close to approaching Cheney.

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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C.


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REMEMBER THE PICTURE OF THE FIVE LIVING PRESIDENTS?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 23, 2009 12:46 PM   
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There was a trivia question that went along with it. Which two former presidents were in touch with each other most frequently? Answer: George Bush and Bill Clinton. Regardless of how these two men feel about each other, they have lots to talk about. GWB and Dick have had a serious falling out. Anna

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As Real As WWF Wrestling
Posted by: DrBrian on May 23, 2009 4:39 PM   
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Obama and Cheney are playing good cop/bad cop around the torture issue, but Obama had no choice but to dissociate himself from something so repugnant, so blatantly criminal, and so infamous. He's covered his backside, and is covering those of the torturers and murderers as well. They can now pass the whole sorry spectacle off as policy differences and not crimes.

He continues with extraordinary renditions, thuggish correctional personnel, denial of Geneva Conventions rights, denial of habeas corpus, indefinite detention without trial, prosecution of people lawfully resisting an occupying force, use of cluster munitions and white phosphorus on civilians, mass slaughter of civilians, prosecution of conscientious objectors, illegal spying on citizens, the infamous and inaccurate no-fly list, abuses of USAPATRIOT Act powers and other outrages.

This debate is about as real as WWF wrestling, and fools the same people.

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Obama and Bush Are Marginalizing Cheney
Posted by: rgoalierob on May 23, 2009 5:17 PM   
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I think Cheney is crapping his pants (in public) because the indictments are coming in Obama's 2nd year in office.
Obama is a chess player, while most are playing checkers.

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What can Obama and Bush be talkin' about?
Posted by: xvictor on May 25, 2009 5:24 AM   
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The only substantive item Bush can be discussing with Obama is their old cocaine snortin' days (and Bush's most recent hehehehe).

Btw, it must feel good for Bush now to be able to reach for a bottle without encountering serious ramifications. Like who cares?

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WARNING!! Obama read this..........
Posted by: Magginkat on May 25, 2009 6:26 AM   
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Bush's Shocking Biblical Prophecy Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"........... listed in today's Alternet newsletter.

Obviously Obama doesn't know what a nutcase Bush is and has been since he "got religion".

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WHAT ABOUT YOU ELITISTS STAYING IN TOUCH WITH ORDINARY FOLKS?
Posted by: joeocho88 on May 25, 2009 8:26 AM   
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How about you people listening to the fears, concerns and problems of ORDINARY PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE... THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ELECTING YOU GUYS...
NOT hanging chads
NOT cooked Diebold machines...

We KNOW that you all travel in the same glorious, rerfied circles where voters and taxpayers and ordinary people are seldom ALLOWED to go...
Like Leona Hemsley and her contempt for "the LITTLE PEOPLE."


Since we elected you, President Obama and you DID promise HOPE and CHANGE, don't you think you had better keep IN TOUCH with US?

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wolvedrive
Posted by: doalive on May 25, 2009 1:34 PM   
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whairs' the blog line outta that qtr.maybe its' better if only yer psyko-analyist knows for sure ,being how yer so much unequal than all the rest of Americans' ya live amongst,hey creep world whatta got to say for yerself ,just wanna sit back and see what ya get,and play the queer little da lussion on out ,get a spine will ya have a drink and just tell your mommee no

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wolvedrive
Posted by: doalive on May 25, 2009 1:39 PM   
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well if ya can't make it or it just isn't important enough , I (doalive) will just spew for ya ,hows' that sound,heresay ya know , it's all the rage,whoo knows somebody might get an insight-live,probably not though ,thanks to micro geek over thair at sensory depravation and imformation/intellageince mass mind control,Ameri_a calling

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What would you expect?
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on May 25, 2009 2:25 PM   
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Shrub-Lite is not much different from the full flavored Shrub, just sounds better.

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Both deluded
Posted by: Carts on May 31, 2009 9:32 PM   
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All these guys believe in "god" so what hope is there for any rational actions? Bush gets messages from "god", pulls off 9/11, and off to war he goes.

You stupid Americans are so deluded with religion

Just hurry up and destroy yourselves and leave the rest of us to sort it out.

Lets have civil war with your assault rifles, SRVs, blacks on whites, Obama shot. Here we go again!

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