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Did the U.S. Give Georgia the Green-Light?

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 10:05 AM on August 12, 2008.


It is clear that Georgia expected much more support from the West.
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Looking at the war between Russia and Georgia, which reportedly is still ongoing, from a purely political perspective, John McCain is clearly looking to use the conflict to his advantage. He's characterizing Obama's position as "appeasement," and using some strikingly caustic language towards Russia.

McCain is not, however, actually moving beyond bluster. The NYT noted this morning that McCain and Obama, verbal sparring notwithstanding, are largely "on the same page in dealing with the current crisis." The Times reported, "Both said Russia had escalated the dispute beyond its catalyst, the conflict over South Ossetia; both said the United Nations Security Council should call for an end to the violence; both called for putting Georgia on a path toward membership in NATO; and both spoke of deploying an international peacekeeping force in the disputed areas that set off the fighting."

With this in mind, there's probably less of a story here about this war and the next U.S. president, but more of a story about this war and the current U.S. president.

The NYT ran a separate report on Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who many Georgians apparently consider "headstrong and reckless, endangering the country's security by rashly ordering an attack on the Russian enclave of South Ossetia on the eve of the Olympic Games in Beijing, and badly underestimating Russia's determination to respond militarily."

And why would Saakashvili be "headstrong and reckless"? The WSJ noted this morning that President Bush "lionized Mr. Saakashvili as a model for democracy in the region to a point that the Georgian leader may have held unrealistic expectations about the amount of support he might receive from the U.S. and the West."

That is, in all likelihood, understating the case by quite a bit.

Slate's Fred Kaplan fleshed this point out very well.

Regardless of what happens next, it is worth asking what the Bush people were thinking when they egged on Mikheil Saakashvili, Georgia's young, Western-educated president, to apply for NATO membership, send 2,000 of his troops to Iraq as a full-fledged U.S. ally, and receive tactical training and weapons from our military. Did they really think Putin would sit by and see another border state (and former province of the Russian empire) slip away to the West? If they thought that Putin might not, what did they plan to do about it, and how firmly did they warn Saakashvili not to get too brash or provoke an outburst?
It's heartbreaking, but even more infuriating, to read so many Georgians quoted in the New York Times -- officials, soldiers, and citizens -- wondering when the United States is coming to their rescue. It's infuriating because it's clear that Bush did everything to encourage them to believe that he would. When Bush (properly) pushed for Kosovo's independence from Serbia, Putin warned that he would do the same for pro-Russian secessionists elsewhere, by which he could only have meant Georgia's separatist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Putin had taken drastic steps in earlier disputes over those regions -- for instance, embargoing all trade with Georgia -- with an implicit threat that he could inflict far greater punishment. Yet Bush continued to entice Saakashvili with weapons, training, and talk of entry into NATO. Of course the Georgians believed that if they got into a firefight with Russia, the Americans would bail them out.
Hilzoy's on the case as well.
Ask yourself this: would the Georgians not have given us any hint that they planned an assault on South Ossetia? I think that's really unlikely. In any case, if they didn't tip us off before getting into a shooting war with Russian troops (who were in South Ossetia as peacekeepers), that should, in my book, put paid to the idea of them as good potential allies.
If they did, what did we say in response? There are things we could have said that would have deterred any but the most completely suicidal Georgian leader. Saakashvili has been unbelievably reckless, but it would have been orders of magnitude more stupid to do what he did had we said, clearly and emphatically, not just that if he did this, he was on his own, but also that taking this step would seriously damage his relationship with us, and would put paid to his hopes of joining NATO in the foreseeable future.
Which is to say: we had a lot of leverage. It is hard to believe either that we didn't know this was going to happen, or that we used our leverage to prevent it. And that is inexcusable. Thousands of people are dead, the freedom of action of Russia's neighbors has been drastically reduced, and our own credibility, such as it was, has been badly damaged.
Again, just to preempt a predictable response: I am not saying it's all our fault. Russia and Georgia are independent actors, and their leaders are responsible for their decisions. But we are also responsible for ours, and if we knowingly encouraged, or even green-lighted, Saakashvili's actions, that is, to my mind, a piece of idiocy on a par with encouraging the Iraqi Shi'a to revolt after the Gulf War. We should not create expectations we are not prepared to meet.
Like Digby, I think all of this sounds at least a little reminiscent of the Shia uprising against Saddam after the first Gulf War.

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Tagged as: bush, russia, putin, nato, georgia, south ossetia, mikheil saakashvili

Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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The Great Game again
Posted by: manderson on Aug 13, 2008 11:46 AM   
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It seems pretty clear that the Cheney Regime baited Georgia on this---just like Bush 1 baited Iraq in 1991. They need an issue to attack Obama on, and the timing on this is extremely suspicious---this could be a context for declaring Martial Law and completely suspending the Constitution (vs the "suspend lite" we're experiencing now). This MAY rally McCain, and in that context, is VERY disturbing. McCain does and says what he's told by the VeryBigCorporationOfAmerika, Inc. (more so than Obama), and a McCain Presidency means that it's 1942 NGT (Nazi Germany Time), with the end of the American Empire in sight, with a descent into feudalism on the Continental 48. The rest of the world will watch us die, and not offer a crumb of help. The chickens have home to roost, as the ghetto kids said on TV on 9/11. The problems of America are systemic in nature, and bigger than any President can handle.

In the context of the "Great Game", though, it's clear that oil is the endgame. Russia is now the world's swing producer of oil, instead of Saudi Arabia, and supplies Europe with the lion's share of its natural gas. They also have a healthy financial system now, with a ruble backed with REAL assets in the bank---unlike the U.S (and China)with our funny paper. In the "Peak Oil" future, geography will determine who gets energy and who freezes and/or starves. Watch for Russia to divert the Caspian pipeline north. The U.S. can only sit on the sidelines and make threatening statements---our military is overstretched and that weakness is showing. The Russians are also quite a bit more ruthless than even our feared Blackwater Boyz...as the vids from France and Britain have shown.

To play devil's advocate, Putin is a nationalist, and watched as the U.S., with help from the Yeltsin regime, looted the country's finances in the 1990's (as the Western powers did with the Romanov bank in 1918), and watch the country's population sink by 10%. He will not let the U.S. lead him into another Afghanistan, or make inroads into its economy, and Russia has a clear goal here---seize the pipeline. Russia has just played Chess to the U.S.neo-con-vict Empire's game of mystical Checkers.

God help us if McCain is "elected"---it will be the new "Dark Ages" on the North American continent. I have observed in the present U.S. regime the same sort of nihilism that Germany displayed as the Allies pushed towards Berlin---the willingness to destroy everything if they can't have the world the way they want it.

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» RE: The Great Game again Posted by: Basenjis
it wouldn't surprise me
Posted by: bigbill3 on Aug 13, 2008 12:07 PM   
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it wouldn't shock me giving this corrupt administration we have,Bush, Chaney, Rove, and the rest of the corrupt Republicans out here. They (Chaney and Bush ) gave Georgie the go ahead so they can boost (Mcsame) poll jump on his so-call foreign policies which he really don't have, just talking points for the Republican to make Mcsame look as he'll keep the U.S. save from outsiders, please don't make me laugh. Those anyone knows that Mcsame lobby buddy on his campaign is a lobbist for Georgie, thats why Mcsame is saying the things he's saying, talking tough like he's the President now, Gee I wonder why the right wing conservatives aren't jumping on Mcsame about acting as if he's the President, we know thats not going to happen, but had Obama stood there as if he was President calling shots, the right wing racist would have been all over him like stink on crap

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This entire conflict is another fantasy game of the USA, NATO
Posted by: leland61 on Aug 13, 2008 2:51 PM   
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aided and abetted by the American media whores for the neocon project of world rule and domination.

You will find a much clearer description of what is actually going on in the republics that were once part of the Soviet Union - but not on ABC, NBC, CBS and naturally not on Faux Noise. Check here for the truth:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9790

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Watch again the Games opening coverage by NBC
Posted by: maxloen on Aug 13, 2008 5:51 PM   
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This is what I noticed during NBC's coverage of the opening of the Olympic Games:
The moment W walked into the Bird's Nest stadium with Laura Bush, he was pull aside by a couple of men, in what seemed an urgent and unusual manner. Afterwards, he (the puppet-in-chief) was obviously very upset, fidgeting and checking his watch and making weird gestures and all those things that are nothing too unusual when it comes to people with feelings of entitlement, and smug as he is, but his frustration was really evident. I was surprised no one was commenting about it!
In retrospect I am not surprised that his hot disappointment was due to the Russians responding to this little 'Georgian' incursion the night before, and attacking back right at a time the Games were beginning. Someone must have assumed the rest world was not paying attention. A true preemption, in my opinion.
Putin was siting near him, probably smiling and thoroughly enjoying the games. Poor little Georgie; somebody blew his frog before he even had the chance to do insert the firecracker.

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It reminds me of 1991
Posted by: EllenJ on Aug 13, 2008 7:24 PM   
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When April Glaspie told Saddam that we wouldn't object if he invade Kuwait because it really wasn't any of our business. He did. And then we made it our business. And the Kuwaiti emirs are still in business and certainly NOT democratic.

Or like a previous poster said, when GHWB encouraged the Kurds to rise up against Saddam in the 1st Gulf War. They did, and we let them be slaughtered.

What is it with these Bush men? Or should I say bushmen?

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I was talking with a Ukrainian friend...
Posted by: kackermann on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM   
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And he asked me to repeat the sequence of events of the last couple of weeks in this conflict.

I did, and he seemed satisfied I had the facts about right, and then he asked, "so, are you at all surprised over Russia's reaction?"

He then told me of his encounters with people from Georgia while he was in the service over there, and he said unfortunately, without exception, they were the stupidest people he had ever encountered.

Honest to God, where they unaware of the Russian response?

Do you know what is going to happen to whatever nation agrees to host our vaunted missile defense shield? Same thing: their cities in flames.

Now, not only are we seen as a malevolent force, but one that really is not capable of holding off a serious threat.

Let's see; who else can Bush and Cheney antagonize right now? Or maybe McCain can campaign on bombing the world's small, non-threatening countries. If I were Mexico, I'd be worried because the republicans are going to need a dark-skinned threat to pick on real soon. They need to throw read meat to their cowardly legions.

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