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Hang On ... We Haven't Hit Bottom in the Housing Market

Posted by Jill Hussein C., Brilliant at Breakfast at 8:04 AM on July 27, 2008.


Another $250 billion in adjustable-rate mortgages are expected to reset this year and next, and over $700 billion by 2010.

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Remember the housing market disaster? How home prices are plummeting? You don't hear much about that these days, do you. This morning, Joe Scarborough's obsession is "Obama's saccharine speech" in Germany. You know, the one I posted yesterday that was greeted by a huge crowd numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

In normal times, one would expect the value of one's home to appreciate by around 4-5% per year. Our house appreciated by around eight percent between the time we bought it and our first refinance two years later. Today, houses similar to mine are just now falling in price -- and are sitting on the market dangerously close to the number at which my own house should fall.

Unlike many people, we haven't used our house as a piggybank to buy vacations and SUVs -- or even put in gourmet kitchens with granite countertops and stainless steel appliances and Aga cookers on which no one actually cooks. But as prices continue to fall, here in New Jersey, the state I call "The Next Flint, Michigan", I wonder how long it's going to take for the price to get down to what we paid for it.

Because the bottom still hasn't fallen out of the housing market:

In the latest evidence that prices are still sliding, the National Association of Realtors reported Thursday that the median price of existing homes sold in June fell to $215,000, down 6.1 percent from a year ago. Sales fell 2.6 percent from the month before -- far more than analysts had expected.

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Richard Gaylord, president of the Realtors, said a recent survey found that nearly one-quarter of potential home buyers are "waiting on the sidelines." A major housing package passed by the House Wednesday after months of debate could help boost the market by offering a credit to first-time home buyers, the group said.

The problem is that this "credit" is actually just an interest-free loan of a few thousand dollars. Would that spur YOU to buy a house in a market that is still trending down?

Another $250 billion in adjustable-rate mortgages are expected to reset this year and next, and over $700 billion by 2010. That's a huge number of people who are going to be trying to refinance -- into rates they can't afford. Even the new housing package requires that lower-cost government-backed loans be limited to 90% of the value of the house -- far less than what many homeowners would require to bail them out of their creatively-financed McMansions.

The three pillars of the American Dream are education, employment opportunity, and homeownership. In the past eight years and beyond, higher education has become unaffordable for many families and attempts are being made daily to dismantle the public school system in this country. Employment opportunity is diminished by outsourcing and recession. And homeownership is about to drop dramatically, leaving many homeowners with little but what they're wearing on their backs.

If those who created the Republican economic policies that gave rise to what we see around us today had set out deliberately to eliminate the middle class and push its denizens downward, they couldn't have done a better job.

Unless they actually DID have that in mind....

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Jill Hussein C. blogs at Brilliant at Breakfast.


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Hold'em or fold'em
Posted by: Dboy on Jul 27, 2008 12:37 PM   
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Insurance companies write policies in such a way that they can wiggle out of payoffs but still collect premiums. Banks use the free money (little or no interest paid) from savings/checking and make money on the spread, governments take the money and pretend it's for public benefit while funneling it to their corporate buddies....and home owners ditch a house if it turned out to be a bad deal. For some people that will be a reasonable and logical response. It's not immoral, it's just business. It should be a last resort obviously, but one should probably not look down on people who ditch their houses (what they are calling "jingle mail" now, due to people mailing their keys to the lender).

I was a wee lad in the 80's, but clearly remember the horrible real estate/S&L scandal played out in Dallas. There were block after block of bare concrete slabs and half-built condos. And it was even worse in Houston, where entire neighborhoods emptied out. But you know what? It all came back. It might happen that way again. What I just can't figure out is *if* and *why* there'd be another boom (outside of energy). Maybe near-zero growth is going to be the new normal, because if there's a new boom somewhere, I sure don't see it. The new industries just don't seem to me to be anything that will employee a massive amount of people because they all require a specialized and intensive education (nanotech, biotech, solar/wind tech), and I just don't see the prison/industrial security/war businesses being all that sustainable (thankfully). So....where's the boom going to come from? Cuz I don't see one.

dboy

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The media is nothing more than a puppet tool for government with which to
Posted by: jwverez on Jul 27, 2008 1:35 PM   
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keep the public misinformed and distracted at all costs. Maybe that's why GOD WILL CONTINUE TO SEVERELY PUNISH AMERICA TO ETERNAL DAMNATION !

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Housing Should Continue to Go Down, It Went Up To High Too Quickly
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jul 27, 2008 2:30 PM   
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The housing market is the most screwed up market the free market capitalist society has.

How many other products, goods, services, do you know that cost more and more each and every year? Not computers, they get faster and cheaper every year. Not TVs, they get larger and cheaper every year. Clothing gets cheaper as long as you don't buy the expensive label that a bunch of marketing has tried to convince the public into thinking their product is cool.


Because of inflation and increasing the money supply by $4 trillion in the last 4 years everything has gotten more expensive but beyond that:

Gasoline gets more expensive but that is because the supply is limited. Food gets more expensive but it is largely dependent on fossil fuel prices and farmers haven't figured out how to make food for cheaply and efficiently while still earning a living wage. Automobiles get more expensive, that I don't really have an answer for, they should be getting cheaper.

And Houses get more expensive. They get continually renovated but still can't match the energy savings and space efficiency of a new home. They almost always lack the newest technologies and you can often hear everything from every room. Lots of creaking as you walk around.


The sole reason seems to be a reluctance to tear down old houses and rebuild.


When people sell their old cars they don't expect to get more money than they originally paid for the vehicle by throwing in some leather seat covers and a visor mounted cd wallet. The car loses value the moment you drive it off the lot. And is often worth far less after a couple 10's of thousands of miles have been put on it than when it was brand new.


Yet with houses because "they aren't making any more land" and everyone and their uncle says real estate is a good investment, people expect their homes to go up in value and demand it when they try to sell it.

Have you driven around your state? How much free open land is there? I would wager a hell of a lot, even in New England states which made some of the first colonies in the country.


I think the main reason for housing price increases is that it is in the interest of the banks and mortgage companies for prices to always go higher.

It means higher commissions, larger mortgages, and more interest going back to the banks.

Housing is a racket.

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If you think things are bad now...
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jul 27, 2008 9:05 PM   
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wait for next year.

That is when (between April and November) hundreds of thousands of "option ARMS" reset.

Essentially, huge numbers of recent homebuyers were allowed to pay what they chose on their mortgage payment for 2, 3 or 5 years - or until the amount owed reached a preset cap (110, 115, 120, or 125% of the original amount borrowed). Most have been paying the bare minimum and between Apr and Oct next year, those loans will reset - in other words, not only will these folks have to start paying principal and interest (when many haven't even been covering the interest) but it will be calculated at a higher interest rate!

Suddenly people who have been struggling to pay, say $5oo a month, will be charged 3 or 4 thousand! They will owe more than they borrowed in the first place on a house that is worth less than they agreed to pay for it!

What would do if you had borrowed $275,000 dollars (yes, some people were actually paid to occupy houses) to buy a $250,000 house that you now owed $325,000 on and was worth $200,000? Especially when your payment was quadrupling?

That's what they are gonna do.

How did I learn this?

At: http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/

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