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At Netroots, Pelosi Ducks Impeachment; Gore Calls for National Grassroots Movement

Posted by Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet at 10:20 AM on July 19, 2008.


Pelosi and Gore address annual conference of progressive bloggers.

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Karl Rove should be put in the jail cell at the U.S. Capitol for defying a congressional subpeona to testify before Judiciary Committee, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) told a national bloggers conference on Saturday morning, but she did not directly answer questions on why the House has not pursued impeachment charges against the president.

Meanwhile, former Vice President Al Gore, who made a surprise appearance at the "Ask The Speaker" session at the Netroots Nation conference, urged those in attendance to help him create a national grassroots movement to counter corporate interests and others ignoring the global climate crisis.

Gore said the best way for the country to transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy was not to push car companies to build different vehicles, but rather to rebuild the country's electricity infrastructure so the U.S. Relied on 100 percent renewable sources in a decade.

"The easiest and cheapest way to shift over to a new energy is to start with electricity," Gore said. "Cars will follow. A new national grid is the centerpiece of this agenda. We have to switch our electricity generation system to get 100 percent from renewable sources."

"We can do it, but I need your help," Gore said, urging the bloggers to encourage people to join his new organization, wecansolveit.org. The group has 1.3 million members, but Gore said it needs 10 million members to counter corporate and political opposition to real change - even if a Democratic president and Congress is elected in the fall.

"I need your help," Gore said. "You speak to and connect with so many millions of people. I ask for you help to build that group of people. You will not see this organization getting partisan or turning to some other agenda. We will not back down."

ARREST KARL ROVE
The organizers of Netroots Nation created an "Ask the Speaker" website where people voted on the questions they most wanted to ask Pelosi. Impeachment topped the list. Pelosi did not reply directly, but instead said the House Judiciary Committee Chairman, Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) would be pursuing a contempt of Congress resolution against Rove, just as it had with other White House staffers who did not testify when ordered to do so by House committees.

"Now the committee is considering contempt for Karl Rove," she said. "That will be up for the committee to decide. Mr. Conyers says I am in charge and I accept that."

When another questioner asked if Rove should be in the Capitol's jail, Pelosi replied, "That's where he belongs. As Mr. Conyers says, 'leave it up to me.'"

Pelosi also defended the recently-passed FISA bill, which deals with how the federal government can monitor the personal communications of U.S. Citizens when fighting terrorism. She said the House's version of the recently passed bill did not grant retroactive immunity for telecom companies that helped the government spy on what some believe is millions of Americans. But she said House Democrats could do little when 17 Democratic senators sided with their Republican colleagues and supported a version of the bill that gave telecom companies retroactive immunity.

She said the bill that was passed, the product of a conference committee, included the immunity but also for the first time brought oversight of the FISA law to two House committees and the Inspector General's office, which she said was some progress.

"I'll never understand how Dem 17 senators voted with the GOP on FISA," Pelosi said. "I have serious sadness over two things in the congress. One is that they sent us the (Senate) FISA bill and that we could not overcome 60 votes in the Senate to end the war in Iraq."

AL GORE
Gore's surprise appearance and speech was very well received. He said the science on global warming is striking and is a historic challenge to this generation's leaders, whether in government, business or the media.

Gore said ithe climate crisis was a "historic challenge." He said the polar ice cap, which is almost as large as the lower 48 states, is in danger of "being completely melted and gone in five years." He said the ice cap is being melted by global warming pollutants, notably CO2.

"How can we absorb the magnitude of such an event during our watch," he asked the more than 1,000 attendees, saying that reversing that trend was this generation's most important leadership test. "If we fail that test, if we reject the responsibility of being stewards for all future generation, then it will never come back... The scientists say we will have less than 10 years to reverse this process."

"Oh, we have a fossil fuel crisis, let's go back for more," he said. "It is so absurd that it is not worthy of consideration... The defenders of the status quo are the ones who have dug us into this hole. They are the ones who say lets continue to be dependent on oil."

Gore said that even electing a Democratic president and Congress would not be a guarantee that the country would make the necessary changes, but he said that generating public opinion that demanded change would be key.

"We need help," he said, asking people to join at wecansolveit.org. "That is why it is so crucial to build this grassroots movement."

Pelosi, who was sitting next to Gore, was asked if she backed his plan.

"It is absolutely possible," she said, without firmly committing.

Pelosi said she would bring a bill for national renewable energy standards that passed in the House by 30 votes earlier this year, but lost in the Senate by one vote.

"We will bring it up again before adjourning this fall," she said.

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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election, with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).


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A hair brained solution that might work
Posted by: Lauren on Jul 19, 2008 11:40 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Or at least start off the brain storming.

We have to shield the ice, try to insulate it to keep it from melting because that will raise sea level. Can we use a blanket?

Where would we get such a big blanket?

Could we use the growing island of trash in the ocean to make it into a recycled material to protect the ice shield while we try to fix the warming, and the rising CO2 and methane issues?

Also all that melted permafrost wont oxidize if is us under water or forest soil cover, right?

Don't panic, think. Think up possible solutions. We have lots of problems and lots of possible solutions. Which can create new problems. Lets see if we can think the whole thing through.

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Nancy has lost it.
Posted by: gallery on Jul 20, 2008 7:04 PM   
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While she's cracking wise on the teevee about poor little george with phrases like "bless his heart" which any southerner will tell you is code for go take a flying fuck, is still not coming to terms with what will ultimately be her own undoing, namely, being the ONE person in charge who for some, still unknown reason, won't impeach this criminal.

Talk about legacies. She will be known as the first woman speaker to FAIL at her job. Nice way to break through the glass ceiling.
She needs to treat us as the adults we are and explain what and why she is clinging to this appalling policy of hers, or get out of the way and let someone with the required intestinal fortitude take over.
Being "cute" on teevee is what the hacks at fox news do.

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» RE: Nancy has lost it. Posted by: Dr. P. Mooney
» RE: Nancy has lost it. Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: Nancy has lost it. Posted by: Cosnofsky
Gore has nailed it--the corporation is the source of most of our ills
Posted by: Suzon on Jul 21, 2008 4:14 AM   
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Gore said it needs 10 million members to counter corporate and political opposition to real change.

The most common definition of a corporation is that it's a fictional or artificial person with the right to buy property, sue and be sued, etc.

But corporations--whether “the Crown” or General Electric--are faith-based. They were created by and exist in a belief system founded upon the concept of the divine right of kings to do favors for their friends. Corporations are anti-democratic and anti-American.

People with religious beliefs should be asked what exactly should be rendered to the descendants and beneficiaries of the rapist, arsonist, thief and murderer William the Conquerer.

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Pelosi=loser
Posted by: PrinceRobert on Jul 21, 2008 6:50 AM   
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What is Nancy Pelosi even doing at that conference, why did they invite her ? She has no credentials as a Progressive and has proven herself to be a squnderer of one of this nation's most urgent opportunities. She is, at this point, guilty of the crime of obstructing justice and should be prosecuted along with the Bush crime family. Asking her to explain is as much a waste of time as asking Condoleeza Rice a question on national security and expecting a straight answer.

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» RE: Pelosi=loser Posted by: Bayardtom
The US is the biggest contributor to global warming
Posted by: Paul1939 on Jul 22, 2008 7:40 AM   
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and when it comes to taking the steps that must be taken to reverse it, Democrats are just like Republicans in that they will talk a good game, but will do whatever corporate interests want.

Over population is the root cause of global warming, and is also the root cause of most of the problem we face in the US, and until governments at all levels come to grips with that reality we and our children are in for a rough ride.

The US population has more than tripled in less than 100 years; 100 million in 1915, 200 million in 1967, 303+ million today! The CENSUS Bureau projects a population of 420+ million by 2050.

Why are those clamoring for the US to deal with global warming the same ones who support policies that exacerbate it? Don't they know that a person living in the US contributes on average 3+ times more to global warming as a person living in developing countries. Stopping the flood of legal immigrants and illegal aliens into our country will make a major contribution to reducing global warming. Deporting the 12-30+ million illegal aliens in the country will do even more.

Demographers (scientists for those who think US policies should at least take their findings into consideration) tell us that the maximum sustainable US population is 200 million people. That is approximately the population we would have today had Congress not changed the immigration laws in 1964 and 1986.

In the unlikely chance Congress would take all the right steps to stop our exponential growth, it would still take many years to reach a sustainable population; that is because of what demographers call "population momentum." For purposes of sustainability, it's the time required to achieve a stable population once a program is implemented. Fifty years is a generally effective planning horizon. Slow growth populations will require longer time periods and high growth populations less time. High immigration nations have the ability to quickly reduce or stop population growth by changing policy. Higher growth populations will also have relatively much greater population increases over the time period as their population is characterized by having many young in or yet to reach reproductive age.

If you are more concerned about the plight of individual immigrants and illegal aliens than you are about the plight of your country, you are part of the problem not its solution.

Some facts for your consideration.

303+m population of the United States today and growing

420m Projected population of the US by 2050

1,682m3 US annual water consumption per capita

633m3 The world's annual water consumption per capita

545m3 The developing world's annual water withdrawals per capita

5lbs Amount of waste each US resident produces per day. That compares with about 3lbs per person per day in Europe, and about 0.9-1.3lbs per person a day in the developing world

$39,710 US Gross National Income per head, 2004

$8,540 World's GNI per head

$4,450 Developing world's GNI per head

19.8 US carbon dioxide emissions per capita, in metric tonnes

3.9 World's carbon dioxide emissions per head, in tonnes

1.8 Developing world's carbon dioxide emissions per head, in tons

44lbs The figure for the developing world

204m number of vehicles on US roads

37% Percentage of the total cars in the world on America's roads

1 in 7 Barrels of world oil supply used by US drivers

7,921 US energy consumption per capita, 2001, expressed in kilograms of oil

1,631 World's energy consumption per capita, in kilograms of oil

828 Corresponding figure for the developing world

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edgeofnowhere
Posted by: edgeofnowhere on Jul 22, 2008 10:20 AM   
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"The easiest and cheapest way to shift over to a new energy is to start with electricity," Gore said. "Cars will follow. A new national grid is the centerpiece of this agenda. We have to switch our electricity generation system to get 100 percent from renewable sources."

The best solution is a DECENTRALIZED grid, one in which each house and each business is retrofitted with solar water heaters, solar PV panels and small wind generators to produce increasingly more of their own power. Couple this with retrofitting all the lighting fixtures with LED lights and replacing appliances with ultra efficient ones. It would also require a commitment from Americans to alter their profligate lifestyle to conserve rather than waste resources such as energy and water. The decentralized grid eliminates the need for more power plants and huge electric transmission infrastructure. Investments in mass transit and electric plug-in cars would further decrease the consumption of fossil fuels. You will end up doing this anyway eventually as the oil and gas become too expensive to purchase. Unfortunately, the current political system does not provide for the future welfare of our citizens, but only for profit to corporations. Which leads us to the fact that we must dismantle the present form of corporate control of our elected representatives. Probably won't happen unless they are all arrested and convicted.

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sdean
Posted by: shd1230 on Jul 24, 2008 7:37 AM   
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If Rove and others, even including Cheney, Ashcroft, et al, are charged now, tried and convicted, they will only be pardoned by Little George. Maybe what we are waiting for is the Democrat win and enough of majority in both Houses to convict and sentence. Impeachment of Bush just now would probably not be wise in view of all the other problems and questions facing the country, including the upcoming presidential election. Prosecution for war crimes has no statute of limitations, so why not wait until the country can free itself of this criminal administration.

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