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Bush Concedes, Embraces a 'General Time Horizon' For Iraq Troop Withdrawal

Posted by Satyam, Think Progress at 5:02 PM on July 18, 2008.


Bush spoke today with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki about bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq.
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When Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki first requested a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, the Bush administration swiftly shot down his proposal. "Timelines tend to be artificial in nature," a Pentagon spokesperson remarked. "[W]e're looking at conditions, not calendars here," the State Department remarked.

But today, the White House has seemingly embraced a "general time horizon" for the withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq. The AP reports:

Iraqi officials, in a sign of growing confidence as violence decreases, have been pressuring the United States to agree to a specific timeline to withdraw U.S. forces. President Bush has adamantly opposed a timeline, and the White House said Friday that the timeframe being discussed would not be "an arbitrary date for withdrawal." [...]

The White House says the two leaders, in a conversation on Thursday, agreed that the accord should include "a general time horizon for meeting aspirational goals, such as the resumption of Iraqi security control in their cities and provinces and the further reduction of U.S. combat forces from Iraq."
The White House's concession today comes after years of resistance to even considering the prospect of a timetable for withdrawing troops, particularly when it came from Congress. Some lowlights of the administration's stubborn rhetoric:
"Why would you say to the enemy, you know, here's a timetable, just go ahead and wait us out? It doesn't make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you're -- you're conceding too much to the enemy." [Bush, 6/24/05]
"Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq." [Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman, 7/16/07]
"I believe artificial timetables of withdrawal would be a mistake. ... I will strongly reject an artificial timetable withdrawal and/or Washington politicians trying to tell those who wear the uniform how to do their job." [Bush, 4/23/07]
"The...attempt to micromanage our commanders is an unwise and perilous endeavor. It is impossible to argue that an unconditional timetable for retreat could serve the security interests of the United States or our friends in the region." [Vice President Cheney, 4/13/07]
The White House maintains that agreement "doesn't reflect a shift in the U.S. position." An Iraqi government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, reiterated that an agreement should have the goal of "decreas[ing] the number of American forces in Iraq and later withdraw them."

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Maybe the MURDERER could withdraw First?? Since it isn't a shift in policy and we are not...
Posted by: Turiye on Jul 18, 2008 8:49 PM   
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....engaging Iran in Diplomatic talks, we're just there to say "hey we aren't here for Diplomatic Talks, okay?".
He's outta his fucking gourd!

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Just sharing
Posted by: sawdust on Jul 19, 2008 9:25 AM   
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Special Edition of Sawdusttx

Set your clocks back: it is 1984!!!!! George Orwell lives!!! Doublespeak has arrived!!!!

7/18/2008, tonight this was reported in a story on MSNBC.com:

"The two leaders agreed that improvements in security should allow for the negotiations "to include a general time horizon for meeting

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Perhaps an Assination?
Posted by: curiousdwk on Jul 19, 2008 9:27 AM   
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If I were al-Maliki, I would watch my back. If Bush and the other neocons are intent on staying, they might find it necessary to have al-Maliki assassinated in order to cause enough chaos to insist on staying and hoping his successor would be more amenable to Cheney's vision.

In the meantime, why isn't Obama using this as a sledgehammer on McCain? This should be used as a pulverizing tool but Obama is mysteriously silent on this. I find his silence to be deafeningly spooky.

And also, why aren't we talking of timelines in Afghanistan? How would we define "win" there? What are we progressing towards? What should we be progressing towards? An opportunity to stike Pakistan?

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Nixon Jr.
Posted by: FoonTheElder on Jul 19, 2008 10:18 AM   
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This is the equivalent of Richard Nixon's 1968 campaign where he claimed to have a secret plan to get out of Vietnam. To get that secret plan, all we had to to was elect him. To this day, most people still don't know what that secret plan was. It took 5 more years to get out of Vietnam under the Nixon presidency.

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Lie Once,
Posted by: Babygoat on Jul 19, 2008 4:20 PM   
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Lie once, Lie twice,
Lie to me,
Lie to you,
Why not lie to him too?

Is McCain still saying we'll be there for 100 years?

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This just in: General David Petraeus Changes His Name
Posted by: cthelyt on Jul 19, 2008 6:13 PM   
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to General Time Horizon.

Now, just who are those America haters who call our president a liar?

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Oh Look at that...
Posted by: chuckjs on Jul 20, 2008 3:25 AM   
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more new words to be defined in the dictionary. "Time horizon" ROFLMAO.

Isn't the use of the word horizon rather ingenious here. If you actually think about it, you can never reach the horizon because as you move forward the horizon moves forward at the same pace.

So, and I hate to say this with all my being but, GW has not changed his position at all. He still intends on maintaining a presence in Iraq forever if you actually analyze his own words.

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I've heard...
Posted by: adp3d on Jul 20, 2008 9:38 AM   
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...that this is a ploy so that the Republican Party in general and Sen. McCain in particular can have a softer ride going into November.

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