I wonder if anyone can tell me the theological position of the church regarding the effect of the human digestive system on the cracker/alleged body of Christ.

Is the cracker partially digested by salivary secretions in the mouth as part of the chewing process? Does it enter the stomach and endure the same mixing and mashing and extracting of nutrients as the cornflakes the communion participant had for breakfast? Does it follow the typical route through and out of the bowel? Is it still holy at that point? And what happens if the participant partied too heartily on Saturday night, attends church with a hell of a hangover and an upset stomach? Is one consigned to the fires of hell if one vomits the wafer, not to mention the wine, as a result of said stomach upset?

If I'm not mistaken, I seem to recall something that got through my adolescent resistance to programming about no other gods before that one and something else about idols. If I recall correctly, it seems idols weren't to be tolerated. Something about the map becoming the territory, perhaps?

And yet, I admire the Hindu view--as I understand it--that the infinite resides in everything, making everything holy--hence the unrepentent Hindu generation (or discovery?) of, respect for, and veneration of vast numbers of idols representing and concretizing the sacredness of everything from rats to elephants and sex to death. And, perhaps, in this view, one finds that the map and the territory--the objective and the subjective--become one.

I'm not well versed in the Hindu view of infinity, but, if I'm anywhere near the circle, I suspect the Hindu view would find even the remains of the body of Christ to contain the infinite, regardless of the orifice of exit--a view I fear would not fit in the minds of the faithful.

But this makes so much more sense.

All crackers are sacred.

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My first impression of the title was one of awe and amazement -

"They're freaking out about white people! I HAVE to read this."

I cannot begin to describe my disappointment that it's over some goddamn (i mean godblessed) little matza disks. For once, I thought I could get behind one of these looney bin mockeries of national news.

yours truly,
triscuit.

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Mocking and making threats of a religious nature is immature at best, a hate crime at worst.

And for all you morons out there who think you can order and desecrate all the communion wafers you want: it's my understanding that they are truly just "crackers" until they are blessed. It's then that they are transformed into the body of Christ.

Grow up and mind your own business.

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Mmmmm....holy crackers

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Whatever you think of the controversy, exactly what does all this have to do with the Republican National Convention? Talk about a lame way to exploit the situation.

I mean a cyberpistol?? So now what, load the super-soakers with holy water and pass them out to RNC security?

Sounds like somebody isn't getting enough prune juice in the morning.

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Isn't it really just "canabalism"? Do "vegans"
partake?

All puns aside, the RNC needs reenforced security
for their canabalistic practices? Generally, I have thought that the cracker resembaled fish food. Oh, and now we're on to another slam, The fishers of men!

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Foley's argument that Myer's comments are the reason for the necessity of increased security is spurious. You bet they need increased security at the RNC convention. But it has nothing to do with Myer's comments. It has everything to do with Ron Paul supporters - young, male, and furious at how the MSM totally ignored their candidate. Remember, this guy broke all campaign-contribution records on 11/5/06 - by raising well over $20 mil in 24 hours, using the line "Remember, remember, the 5th of November" from the movie "V for Vendetta". His supporters are preparing protests at the convention. They are well-motivated. Young as they are, they gained an abundance of organizational skills from the primaries.

So Foley is too chickenshit to state the real reason: the rethugs are falling apart at the seams and they will have to face the music come September. The Minneapolis convention will be interesting to watch.

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... Oh yeah, I get it now ...you were...

the side show that they're putting on must be horrible for John McCain to watch!

wheres Karl Rove on this...
he must be involved in this Cracker-Gate Heist somewhere down the pipe stream!

what a disaster and joke

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Religion is caused by any one or more of about half a dozen mental illnesses.
The truth about religion can be found in these books:

"The Neuropsychological bases of god beliefs" Dr. Michael A. Persinger MD,
psychiatrist 1987 "Religious people are just like my temporal lobe patients"

"The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind" Julian
Jaynes Professor, Harvard University 1976 "Religious people are just like
schizophrenic patients"

"The Psychiatric Interview in Clinical Practice" Roger A. MacKinnon, M.D.,
Robert Michels, M.D. W. B. Saunders Co. 1971 "Religiosity is a common
symptom [of] schizophrenic patients"

"The God delusion" by Richard Dawkins. "Religion is caused by a kind of
computer virus that infects the living computer, the human brain."

"The Science of Good and Evil" by Michael Shermer, 2004 "Morality and Ethics
are now in the jurisdiction of Science and greatly improved thereby."

Many books in the new science called "Sociobiology": Morals and ethics are
instinctive and they evolved.

"God: The Failed Hypothesis" by Victor Stenger. Scientific proof that god does
not exist.

"The God Part of the Brain" by Matthew Alper 1996. "The USA is anomolusly
religious because many early founder groups were religiously insane and fleeing
prosecution in Europe. Religion is a genetic disorder."

"The Accidental Mind" by David J. Linden, 2007 Belknap Press of Harvard
University Press. Religion is caused by the extreme klugeyness of the "designed"
by evolution brain. In particular, the narrative creation system cannot be turned
off. It generates false narratives that are believed by the generating person. This is
seen in experiments done in the laboratory. This book has the best explanation of
resistance to evolution: "There has also been an assumption that if one accepts the
idea that life developed without divine intervention, it necessarily follows that all
aspects of religious thought must be rejected. Those who take this line of
argument to extremes argue that when religious thought is rejected moral and
social codes will degenerate and "the law of the jungle" will be all that is left. It is
imagined by religious fundamentalists that those who do not share their particular
religious faith are incapable of leading moral lives." These suppositions are not
true many times over. Linden later mentions that the creationists [intelligent
design advocates] are exactly 180 degrees wrong rather than just a little wrong.
Being exactly wrong, they are unable to unlearn their error. See Sociobiology or
Sciobio.

"Scientists Confront Intelligent Design and Creationism" edited by Petto &
Godfrey, 2007. The ID and creationist crowd are trying to do away with science.
They see science as a "godless religion." Science is a process, not a religion.

"Manufacturing Belief" by Lewis Wolpert
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/05/15/lewis_wolpert/

"The End of Faith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris

"Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon", by Daniel Dennett
Let's do scientific research on religion and find out what causes it.

"Origins of the Modern Mind" by Merlin Donald 1991 "So what did you expect
from a brain that is based on the Chimpanzee brain?

"Atheism, A Case Against God" by George Smith

"God is not Great; how religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens, 2007

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As a sophomore undergraduate student in Physics, your homework in Probability
and Statistics class may include figuring out when the second coming would be
required, assuming that the bible was 100% true in the year zero. That is, when
would the bible be down to 50% true? The popular and professors' answer in
1965 was the year 500. The true answer: A friend of mine was born and raised in
Budapest, Hungary. As an adult, he came here and stayed. After 25 years, he
visited his home town of Budapest. He was unable to communicate with his high
school classmates because the Hungarian language had changed so much. The
correct answer is less than 25 years. The first gospel was not written down until
50 years after the alleged events and then in a different language. The people who
told the story were at about the same level of civilization as "wild Indians", I mean
Native Americans before Columbus got here. We have all played or seen played
the game called "Telephone" in which a story is passed down a line of re-tellers.
By the Sixth re-telling, the story has no resemblance to the original. The gospel
story had to have been re-told at least 6 times before it was mis-translated the first
time. [Note that whoever wrote it down the first time was free to write whatever
he wanted to. The storytellers were illiterate and unable to check his written text
by reading it. Besides that, he wrote in Greek rather than Aramaic.] Conclusion:
There is no truth anywhere in the bible, and there never was. There is no way to
know what "jesus" or "mohammed" or any other such character actually said or
did.

ALL of the jurisdictions that were formerly in the jurisdiction of religion have
been taken over by Science. There is no longer a need to debate the issue.
Religion is an unfortunate side effect of having evolved from a chimpanzee-like
animal in a very brief 6 or 7 million years. "God" will not save us from the
consequences of global warming or an asteroid impact or a tornado because there
is no such critter as "god.". Ethics and morality are instinctive, not derived from
religion. Female instinct has greater force in morality than male instinct because
the female is in command of the sexual encounter. Look up "Sociobiology". The
origin of the Universe is the subject of Cosmology which is part of astronomy
which is part of the science of physics.
Religion is a SCAM. ANY religion, there are 10,000 to choose from at any one
time. People keep inventing new religions [for the benefit of the "prophet," of
course] and forgetting other religions. ALL preachers, priests, imams, rabbis,
iatolas, etc. belong in jail for "grand theft, bunko type".

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Keep up the good work.

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