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Barack Obama and the Left

Posted by Kathy G at 1:10 PM on June 24, 2008.


Progressives must keep the pressure on Obama.
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One thing before I get to anything else --if you're as disgusted as I am by the way Barack Obama and the rest of the Dems folded like a cheap camera on the FISA issue, do something positive about it -- donate money to Georgia state senator Regina Thomas. Thomas is an African-American who is running in the July 15th Democratic primary for Congress in Georgia's 12th district against the reactionary, pro-war, anti-inheritance tax, anti-immigrant, pro-telecom immunity incumbent, John Barrow. Thomas has sterling progressive credentials and given the fact that she's running against a conservative white man in a Democratic primary where 70% of voters are African-American, a lot of people think she has an excellent shot at winning.

Bloggers such as Digby, Matt Stoller, and the crew at Firedoglake have already come out in support of Thomas.   

To donate money to Regina Thomas via ActBlue, click here.

Now, on to the main subject of this post -- if you're a liberal Obama supporter, this past week or so has sucked pretty hard. We've seen Obama move sharply to the right on a number of fronts, including:

--  hiring the centrist, pro-Walmart economist Jason Furman as his economic policy director (and yes, I know that Furman's done good work on issues like Social Security privatization, but if you're truly committed to a progressive economic vision, he's not the guy you'd be hiring);

-- naming, as his campaign chief of staff, Jim Messina, who served as chief of staff to Max Baucus, and who appears to strongly support Baucus's pro-corporate agenda;

--  forming a Working Group on National Security that consists mainly of reanimated corpses from the 80s and 90s (Warren Christopher, Sam Nunn, David Boren, Madeleine Albright) rather than fresh, bold new thinkers like Samantha Power;

-- making statements

that are strongly supportive of NAFTA and that conflict with his position during the primaries (Obama is now saying he won't unilaterally re-open NAFTA);

--  releasing a campaign ad, his first of the general election, which hits on right-wing rather than progressive themes (it emphasizes "cutting taxes" and "moving people from welfare to work" -- why not "universal health care" and "getting the hell out of Iraq"?);

-- and, finally, throwing his weight behind the FISA "compromise," which deservedly earned him Atrios's dreaded "wanker of the day" award.

I've gotta say, though -- all this was utterly predictable. It's not that only that, once the general election campaign starts, presidential candidates tend to move to the center. It's that, as I've been telling anyone who would listen, Barack Obama is, in substance if not in style, an extremely cautious, utterly conventional, center-left politician. If you want to see real, transformative change in this country, he is not your guy.

The second coming of FDR he is not. As president, I think he's far more likely to resemble Bill Clinton -- except he'll be a Bill Clinton who can keep it in his pants and will likely be governing with large majorities in both houses of Congress. Which does not thrill me -- I never liked Clinton much and held my nose while voting for him.

This is not say Obama is a bad guy at all. He's whip-smart, he's a compelling speaker, he's honest*, and he has a pretty decent voting record overall. His campaign so far has been most impressive, particularly in the managerial and grassroots organizing departments. I will always give him enormous credit for speaking out against the Iraq War at a time when almost everyone else in public life was running scared. Indeed, after my first choice candidate, John Edwards, dropped out, I chose him over Hillary largely because I think he's less likely to get us involved in stupid wars than Hillary is (my other reasons were that he's less tainted by corporate sleaze than she is, and that I thought there was more of a chance he'd be slightly more liberal overall).

And also, it must be said -- in case you haven't noticed, in this country, we do not elect liberal presidents. FDR was a fluke -- he was elected when the country was suffering an economic crisis of epic proportions, and even then few believed he'd end up governing as far to the left as he did. LBJ was the other great liberal domestic policy president, but that, too, was a fluke. In the (admittedly totally tasteless) formulation of a friend of mine, the best thing that ever happened to civil rights in this country was the bullet through JFK's head. It was only in the aftermath of the martyrdom of JFK that the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. could have been passed. And even then, it still required every last ounce of LBJ's political genius to get them through.

So, in all honesty, I think Obama is about the best we can do. Yes, he opposed the war from the start. But he's been vague about when he'd start withdrawing troops, and unlike candidates like Bill Richardson, he supports letting residual troops remain. His voting record is decent overall, but it contains some serious disappointments, such as his support of the FISA compromise. Like 95% of the other Democrats in Congress, he's not exactly a profile in courage.

I've been familiar with Barack Obama for a while now. First as my state senator and now as my U.S. senator, he has sometimes greatly impressed me, but often frustrated and disappointed me as well.

He's an illustrative story: a few years ago, an activist friend of mine was working to pass a bill in the Illinois legislature regulating payday loans. His group met with a number of members of the legislature, including Barack. Many of the elected officials they spoke with told them exactly what they would and would not be able to do. Barack listened sympathetically, but didn't make any promises or in fact tip his hand in any way (didn't even say what he wouldn't be able to do, and that kind of info was useful to my friend's group). And when push came to shove, Barack didn't do a damn thing.

My friend (who, by the way, has given money to Obama and voted for him the primary) said ruefully that he wasn't particularly surprised:"That's the Barack Obama I know." He pointed out that a good chunk of Barack's campaign donations come from the banking and financial services industry in Illinois and he thinks that was probably the main reason Barack didn't want to take action on the payday loan issue.

The fact is, in his entire public career Barack Obama has never stuck his neck out for anyone or anything. He's never once taken on a big, high-profile cause or project that was highly controversial or risked failure. Yes, there's his early opposition to the war on the one hand; but on the other hand, once he got to the U.S. Senate he did little to, you know, try to stop the war, and his votes on the war have been utterly conventional Democratic votes.

Yet Hillary Clinton, when she was about the age Baracks is now, took on the daunting task of developing a health care plan. And even though that ended up being a huge failure, at least she took the risk. If she became president, I truly believe that she'd do her damndest to make universal health care a reality in this country. If John Edwards became president, he'd work like hell to enact his populist economic agenda of universal health care, making it easier to join a union, expanding the EITC, etc.

But Barack Obama? Honestly, I don't have a freaking clue. I think he'll govern like the utterly conventional Democrat that he is, but I have no idea what his policy priorities are, or what burning issue drives him.

Over this past election season, on websites and listservs and in conversations, I've seen an awful lot of cheap, hacktacular electioneering in favor of one candidate or another. But at the end of the day, I don't think there was ever all that much of a difference between Hillary and Barack. Or between those two and Edwards, for that manner. Hillary and Barack had voting records and positions on the issues that were closet to identical. They've both taken shitloads of money from Wall Street, and it's pretty clear to me that each of them is captive to corporate special interests. Indeed, I interpret Obama's recent rightward shift -- Furman, Messina, the remarks about NAFTA, the FISA compromise -- as saying to the corporate interests, "Never fear --we'll be playing ball as usual with you folks."

As president, either Barack or Hillary, or Edwards, would be infinitely better than any Republican, but from a progressive point of view, each of them would also far short in some pretty profound and powerful ways.

But you know what? Ultimately, I don't think that they as individuals are to blame for that. I don't think Barack, or Hillary, or Edwards, are bad people. I don't think that Barack Obama, for example, went into politics so he could sell civil liberties down the river in favor of giveaways for the telecom industry. But the incentive structure in politics these days is such that he decided he had more to gain by supporting the FISA "compromise" than by opposing it.

This is where we, as liberals, progressives, lefties, activists, whatever-you-want-to-call-us, come in. I do not believe that our interests are best served by the kind of cheap electioneering we saw over the primary campaign. What would be far more effective would be an independent movement that makes strategic alliances with various political candidates but is also distinctly separate from them.

Instead of shilling for Barack, or Hillary, or whoever, we should have been pressuring the candidates to work for our votes. We should have been pressing them to take firm, non-negotiable positions in favor of things like no immunity for the telecoms, or immediate withdrawal from Iraq with no residual troops. Instead, we were really cheap dates. And when you act like suckers, don't be surprised when something like Obama's support for the FISA compromise comes back and bites you in the ass.

If we want real change in this country, the place to look for it is not in our so-called leaders, but in ourselves. What we need, in short, is a movement. Without such a movement, President Obama is not going to be able to achieve a whole lot more than President Clinton or President Carter did. But with such a movement, we may actually get somewhere. FDR was able to achieve great things because he had the strong support of a powerful labor movement. Similarly, the civil rights movement was the wind at LBJ's back. But I ask you, what will President Obama have?

Obama, like just about every other politician out there, is cautious, but also highly pragmatic. Like everyone else, he responds to incentives. As activists, what we need to do is to move the political center of gravity in this country to the left. To change the incentive structure so that it will be easier for him to do the right thing. This is a far sounder strategy, over both the short and the long term, than waiting for saints or messiahs to come along.

I'll close with one of my favorite political stories. It concerns my all-time favorite president, FDR. He was meeting with a group of reformers trying to persuade him to support one of their goals. After they finished speaking, FDR said to them, "You've convinced me. I want to do it. Now make me do it."

And that, my friend, is the task at hand.

*Added later: By "honest" I mean not corrupt, and not (insofar as politicians go, anyway) particularly prone to false or misleading statements

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By your standards
Posted by: drmflorida on Jun 24, 2008 1:26 PM   
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By your standards, FDR wasn't the second (or first) coming of FDR.

I think most of us see Obama as exactly what he is: our best hope for ending Republican rule. You've made your point, he's not liberal enough. YAWN!!

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» RE: By your standards Posted by: progdem
Shameful
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jun 24, 2008 1:33 PM   
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I agree completely, except...

You say that both the Republican and Democrat presidential candidates move to the center when the general election season starts.
That may have been true once. But now BOTH major candidates have moved to the right.
John McCain can't flip-flop enough in order to end up more like Bush.
And watch as he picks a ultra-far-right running-mate such as Mitt "I want to double the size of Guantanamo!" Romney.

Yes, I agree with you. America can't elect a liberal president.
And that is truly a damn shame.

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» RE: Shameful Posted by: pollyanna999
Read your history, FDR was not Great - See: Wickard v Filburn
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 24, 2008 2:50 PM   
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He pushed that law in mandating quotas on how much grain could be produced by each and every farm to increase its price in the market.

It was his appointed Supreme Court justices that ruled on that law as Constitutional and turned the definition of the Interstate Commerce Clause of the Constitution into the Commerce Clause that covered Interstate, Intrastate, and Private Production and Consumption as all being regulated under the Interstate Commerce Clause.

FDR is no hero, he was largely responsible for the leviathan we have for a Federal Government now.

Please read more books.

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Getting elected
Posted by: L.A.Lynn on Jun 24, 2008 3:09 PM   
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Not that I'm happy with all of Obama's moves. He is, afterall, a pol. I have not been on the he's-the-new-messiah train. Of our choices, he's the best.

Still, we're all going to be seeing him do some things that feel uncomfortable. Maybe he's doing it because he feels it's the right thing to do, or maybe he's doing it because it's politically expedient. It's good to call him on things we don't like. He needs to be left leaning, but in the end, he is running for president of all the people, not just the ones on the left. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

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» RE: Getting elected Posted by: Lauren
I have to rather strongly disagree and please take note! or doesn't this matter?
Posted by: foreverhope on Jun 24, 2008 3:34 PM   
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He's never once taken on a big, high-profile cause or project that was highly controversial or risked failure.

(sigh) REPOSTING and I wish someone would give credit where credit is due or doesn't this mean anything? From Naomi Wolf of her endorsement of Obama:

"What is leadership? Leadership means getting out in front of where people are and waking them up. Right now, given these violent possible threats to us and our families, we are sleeping.

Which is why I am formally coming out of the closet with my support for Senator Barack Obama. Of all the candidates running now, he is the leader on understanding the threat to the Constitution and actually taking action, not just mouthing soundbites, on the need to deny torturers space in our nation and to restore the rule of law.

"Lawyers for Gitmo detainees endorse Obama," read a recent headline on the Boston Globe's political blog. In the article, reporter Charlie Savage notes that "More than 80 volunteer lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees today endorsed Illinois Senator Barack Obama's presidential bid. The attorneys said in a joint statement that they believed Obama was the best choice to roll back the Bush-Cheney administration's detention policies in the war on terrorism and thereby to 'restore the rule of law, demonstrate our commitment to human rights, and repair our reputation in the world community.'"

The lawyers who signed this letter -- prominent names on the list included Washington lawyer Thomas Wilner, retired federal appeals court judge John Gibbons, and retired Rear Admiral Donald Guter, who was the Navy's top JAG officer from 2000 to 2002 -- applauded Obama for having stood up in 2006 against aspects of the Military Commissions Act. Unfortunately, his fight was ultimately unsuccessful -- which is why we are all still in danger. But unlike other candidates he truly fought and he understood the nature of the danger: "When we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the Administration's bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us," the lawyers wrote. "Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications of voting to preserve habeas corpus for the men held at Guantanamo. He has understood that our strength as a nation stems from our commitment to our core values, and that we are strong enough to protect both our security and those values. Senator Obama demonstrated real leadership then and since, continuing to raise Guantanamo and habeas corpus in his speeches and in the debates."

These are times that should try men's souls -- and women's also. In a closing society, a leader has to be willing to face down evil, engage it and call it by its name.

Remember: when activists started to push hard to raise awareness of the dangers of torture and indefinite detention, many on the Hill were scared to join the fight because it was then politically unpopular. But to me, if you are not really against torture -- always and under every political change in climate, and let us note that former torture victim and prisoner of war John McCain shamefully dropped his fight against the torture loopholes in the law as well -- then you are not really, in my view, fit to be an American President.

Gender has nothing to do with it. Race has nothing to do with it.

Integrity has something to do with it.

That is why Barack Obama has my vote. Of all the leading candidates, he is the only one on these issues who has consistently acted like a true American.

Naomi Wolf is the author of The End of America (Chelsea Green) and the co-founder of the American Freedom Campaign.

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» What pussy..... Posted by: foreverhope
» RE: What pussy..... Posted by: desidid
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» RE: What pussy..... Posted by: Knowmad
» RE: What pussy..... Posted by: progdem
» What's progdem... Posted by: Knowmad
» RE: What pussy..... Posted by: progdem
» RE: What pussy..... Posted by: progdem
Though comparisons can be made Obama is not Clinton, not FDR, he is not JFK, he is BARACK OBAMA
Posted by: foreverhope on Jun 24, 2008 4:15 PM   
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Perhaps a combination of the best qualities of these presidents. Throw in a bit of Reagan for that encouraging, inspirational 'Morning in America' feeling.

I think that most reasonable people would agree that Sen. Obama's attractiveness to the American voter is more than ANYTHING else founded on his willingness to reach out to the "opposition". And that's a better way to solve America's ENORMOUS problems.

We made those problems in our divided thinking. We need to solve them as a unity.

And so, at least or me, it's not so much about Obama, HIMSELF, as it is about his message. He's what America WANTS to be.

In Seattle WA, Obama packed the Key Arena with 18,000 energetic supporters. There have not been that many people in Key Arena since Michale Jordon and the Bulls played the Seattle SuperSonics back in 1996.

Of course, he's got to translate these huge throngs from rallies to the polls. But I think that we are really witnessing a very special sort of fellow who may come along in politics only once every generation of two.

Obama's strategy of poaching Republican votes is smarter than pounding your head against a wall every four years and making no progress. Reagan stole Democrats and won huge. Then he had the power to reshape American politics as he wanted. He had a mandate.

As we saw in 1993, without a big mandate, it is hard to get much progress. Hillary had both houses of Congress and still failed. Obama wants to win big. Then he has the power to actually do, instead of just waiving his fist.

His tone may be concilliatory, but his policies would be great for the country. If only they had a big mandate to put them into effect. As you may have noticed, the typical Democrat playbook of warfare against Republicans hasn't been working for decades.

OBAMA IS NOT ABOUT COMPROMISING AWAY OUR AGENDA!

He is about finding new ways to communicate this agenda that, because we've had no visionary leadership, has been bogged down for decades! These are exciting times!

Obama often talks about, not just his legislative successes, but his regrets. And these regrets were partly what propelled his candidacy, because he recognized in himself the potential for becoming a transformational leader who could reshape the playing field. But when I said the point of Obama is not that he will compromise away the progressive agenda, I am responding to those who conflate his empathic style with middle-of-the-road policy making. I am not saying he never behaves like a politician. If you want someone who entirely shuns political thinking, then support Kucinich or someone, and say goodbye to the White House.

This is precisely what's so exciting about Obama. Yes, he understands politics. But he also understands leadership. Therefore he has a significant chance to actually move the location of "the middle of the road" (similarly to the way Reagan did with his "Morning in America" -- but in the other direction).

It's important to stress that his "teflonness" is not ALL that Obama has going for him, but it's substantive - in a pragmatic sense - because it'll help him a great deal in not just "fighting" for a progressive agenda, but actually passing it. Progressives hate the Reagan analogy, but it's fitting, because Reagan actually changed the political and cultural landscape in a substantive way; that is, he changed the way Americans thought about themselves.

For the first time in about 50 years we have a progressive poised to do the same -- but he also happens to be extremely intelligent, curious, dignified, honest, etc. As has been pointed out, he's not perfect, and he's not pretending to be. But he's the right person in the right place at the right time. I'm just thankful he had the wisdom and courage to recognize this and to step up to the plate.

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AIPAC! FISA! IMPEACHMENT! HEALTH CARE!
Posted by: Ynot? on Jun 24, 2008 5:20 PM   
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Obama is not at all progressive. If he were he wouldn't kowtow to AIPAC. He would have stood firm on the FISA deal and promised to prosecute to the fullest. If he were progressive he would be talking about implementing Universal single payer health care. A real progressive would promise to end the occupation and withdraw troops immediately. He would vow to bring the war criminals in the current administration to justice. And he wouldn't wishy wash about NAFTA. Obama will get my vote because he is the best choice we have, not because I think he will turn this country around. He may veer us slightly off the course we're on, but if we wanted a progressive candidate we should have gotten behind Kucinich. I can't believe the writer of this didn't even mention Kucinich. He is the only candidate in the past eight years with any real spine, but evidently, he is too progressive (and too short!?) to elect. The only thing Obama could do to truly impress me at this point is choose Kucinich as a running mate. His choice for VP will surely tell us where he stands.

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» RE: Not Going To Blame Media Posted by: desidid
» FISA! As a matter of fact.... Posted by: foreverhope
Let's hope for a colossal shift once in the Oval Office
Posted by: nochicagoboys on Jun 24, 2008 6:41 PM   
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"Indeed, I interpret Obama's recent rightward shift -- Furman, Messina, the remarks about NAFTA, the FISA compromise -- as saying to the corporate interests, 'Never fear --we'll be playing ball as usual with you folks.' "

No surprise there. But, most will do, or say, anything to get elected. I'm hoping he's got the wherewithal, shortly after taking residence on Pennsylvania Avenue, to give them all the middle finger.

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» I Don't Know Why We Should Posted by: pdxstudent
» RE: I Don't Know Why We Should Posted by: nochicagoboys
Great Article. We needed dozens like these about six months ago.
Posted by: pdxstudent on Jun 24, 2008 8:59 PM   
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Just like Naomi Klein's in The Nation last week.

It was a sharp move away from her support of him. It was the first critical eye she's turned towards him in the whole campaign. Too bad it was well after the primaries when people still had semblance of choice.

Some commenters want, and think they'll get in Obama, a leader who will "face down evil, engage it and call its by its name"? That's scary, to be honest. The last leader we had did the same thing, albeit for his comparative constituency. The greatest evils this nation and the world today face are those interests behind Obama's "success."

He'll likely win this Fall, but not because he'll be freely elected. No one has a choice in the matter. The ideological game between Democrats and Republicans chose in advanced the sole players of this election, and within each corporate interests that are neither properly Democratic or Republican.

The point is not to say don't vote for Obama and vote for Nader or something. That's more stupid than gutsy, because our ludicrous first-past-the-pole elections make voting anything outside the Two Parties overtly and not just tacitly undemocratic---it's simply not allowed. The point is that Obama's victory does not signal a new liberal strength but re-articulates a critical liberal weakness that we still need to overcome. His victory says "No, We Can't (elect anybody but a typical, neoliberal corporate Democrat)!" Neoliberals like Obama and Clinton (both of them), are the flip-side of neo-conservatism, not its opponent. Read Wendy Brown and David Harvey for the breath-taking and gut-wrenching history of these movements.

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» Comment? It's a WHOLE ARTICLE. Posted by: pdxstudent
I see your point; But lets look at it another way
Posted by: IntelliGent on Jun 25, 2008 8:23 AM   
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Like the author, I too was leaning closer to John Edwards and have been quite disappointed with some of the ways Obama has handled certain issues. With that being said, getting into the whole argument about whether or not Obama is "liberal" enough is pretty trivial considering the greater good. Politics is the ultimate game of move, counter-move, and positioning. Only those of who have even held public office can fully understand this. With that being said, to say Obama isn't progressive due to FISA or a payday loan bill is not fair. A bad decision, possibly, but when did a few bills become a litmus test of progressivism? The fact that he met in person about the payday loan issue and gave a sympathetic ear I think shows that he was willing to hear every side. He promised nothing, but then again, he wasn't required to. Would you rather him bullshit you and promise but do nothing?

Truth be told, revolutionary change takes time. It cannot be done with just in 4-8 years. It will take a while to reverse the damages of the illegal Bush Administration. There really isn't an easy answer to Iraq. Everyone wants a quick, complete withdrawal, but ask anyone in the military with years of experience and they will tell you it's a clusterfuck of a situation. To do this right, it will probably take more than a year to move out US troops. And even then, like Colin Powell alluded to, "you break it you buy". It's unfortunate that Bush has screwed us like this, but the job has to be done and it will take driven progressive people to do it!
I think Barack can be a good beginning to revolutionary change. I'm not expecting him to be Jesus, but I believe with a unified progressive Congress and the American people "holding his feet to the fire", he could be the beginning of mending the wounds made by Bush.

P.S. - And yes I do agree with the fact that America will not elect a liberal president, at face value at least. I'd like to think to that Obama is playing the politics game when it comes to FISA, AIPAC, and such. He's trying to get elected, which means you do all you can and sometimes you have to bite the bullet. Will he become increasingly progressive once he enters the Oval office? I damn sure hope so, but it's gonna take us progressive to push him on it!

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Non-Partisan Problem
Posted by: charliemudcat on Jun 25, 2008 9:03 AM   
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I generally agree with this post. The one area that Obama will be able to make a big difference in is energy/environmental policy. This issue, despite all the fulminating in the press of late, is the to be blamed on myriad sources--the oil companies, peaking of world oil supplies, Congressional inaction over the past several decades (by both Dems and Repubs) and, lately, a Bush admin waiting for the apocalypse. Ordinary Americans, in love with their fast-driving consumerist culture bear a fair amount of responsibility too. Obama has already stated that if he only had a chance to fix one issue as Prez, it would be energy. He has the savvy and eloquence to get it done and it is truly a non-partisan issue in the end. This is the sole reason I'm still working my heart out to get him elected and it is why I will keep up relentless personal lobbying when he's POTUS.

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» RE: Non-Partisan Problem Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Non-Partisan Problem Posted by: charliemudcat
Let's take Obama's "We" rhetoric literally
Posted by: poetac on Jun 26, 2008 10:09 AM   
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I agree with other posters that Obama's rightward veer in the direction of corporate politics-as-usual was to be expected. The system is basically rotten and by its very structure can't allow a genuinely independent progressive candidate for President.

But Obama inspired millions of young (and not so young) people not only with "hope" but with the first person plural--"WE." He has consistently emphasized that citizens acting together are who makes change, pressing the politicians from below. He wants a popular movement to push for progressive change? Let's give him one! It will pressure him, too, just as the labor and unemployed movements pressured FDR even while they used his official blessing to organize workers, and as the Civil Rights movement pressured LBJ.

Obama is no Moses, nor should we want him to be. His presidency together with a Dem majority in the House and Senate would allow us to put the brakes on ecocidal and imperial insanity and start to turn things around. But as Eugene Debs, the union leader and Socialist presidential candidate who received 2 million votes while in Federal prison during WWI, said: "I would be no Moses to lead you into the Promised Land, for any people that can be led into the Promised Land can be led out of it again." That, friends, is democracy.

Yes, we--not Obama or any other corporate US politician--yes, WE can!

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Democrats, Legacy, Change?
Posted by: EdNet on Jun 27, 2008 6:38 AM   
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It is hard to defend accusations that so many Democrats in both houses of Congress are weak - on so many things.

From "national security" to FISA to taking on a really lame-duck president. From fighting corporate food producers, corporate pharmaceuticals, corporate media to fighting for citizens' civil and constitutional rights, too many Democrats have shown weakness.

But now, because of the Supreme Court ruling on handguns, all that can change. Change we can believe in!

Senator Obana, the leader of the "new and changed" Democratic Party, boasting his street creds,recently said that if they (Republicans) bring a knife to the fight, we will bring a gun!

Well now is your chance, Senator. You talked the talk, now walk the walk.

OK. We know it was a metaphor. But it does provide an opportunity to lead Democrats to change.

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lenteach
Posted by: lenteach on Jun 29, 2008 4:26 AM   
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what a longwinded diatribe that was. I skimmed it and found an appeal to move to the left,precisely what the Conservative movement wants us to do.The Left believes that no loaf is better than half a loaf and has sunk the Dems with their winner take all strategies since they never win.The majority of voters are not on the left and neither was FDR,who believed in balanced budgets and tax increases to get them,even during the depression.FDR tried to "pack" the Supreme Court,destroy checks and balances and ruined himself by sitting with Stalin.He put the Dems in the position of being charged later on as "soft on communism", weak on defense and opened the door
to Nixon and McCarthyism.The Dems still aren't trusted to this day with national security with pics of FDR and Stalin always siting together and remarks like "Uncle Joe" still floating around.So, the last thing we need to do is flee Iraq overnight and then we will get
this: the Dems "lost" China in 1949 and now they did it again and "lost" the Persian Gulf.
We need a steady hand fom Obama,real smarts from real pros(who surely are not corpses) like Sam Nunn and M.Albright or else we will be right back in the dumpster with another Cheney/Bush fiasco.Nobody ever said"go left,young man" and for good reason.Steady in the center and half a loaf is far better than none.

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Win Or Whine?
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 1, 2008 6:15 AM   
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First FISA does NOT Cover their asses from Criminal Prosecution- a far better punishment or at least a far bigger incentive to start rolling on the Admin by the Telecom CEO's (probably not thrilled by the thought of Orange Jumpsuits & shackles)
And let's be realistic here, Americans have been brainwashed by the Right for Decades- it will Not be a easy task to Deprogram the majority of Koolaid Drinkers. But we need them to vote for him- so we need to be gentle.
Obama is NOT going to change the World Over night, or in 4 yrs, or poss even 8- but he will get the ball rolling in the desired direction.
In Fact, even as a Life long Liberal Dem- I am Hoping Sen Obama names Sen Chuck Hagel as his VP. First he cuts the legs out from under Mac with Military service.Second he can help clean out the corrupt Republicans without being viewed as a paristan witch hunt.third he will bring over all those disenfranchised Real Old School Republicans. Fourth he has a great record wihin his state which is a Midwestern state we can use and those surrounding NE.
I voted for Kucinich in the Primaries- I am a real Lefty, but realize to win we must do so with the help of others from the middle and the other side.
Stop whining so we can start getting rid of the neoCONs who have held Our country Hostage for Decades Now
Obama is Not the Lefts Messiah- but he is a vehicle to get our country back on the right track and end the strangle hold Cheney et al has had on our Politics for 40 yrs. It is Not Obama who will change this country it is US!
We have enough to battle to NeoCON machine- no need to pile on to make the effort insurmountable.

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