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Conservative Pundit Dennis Prager Fears the Whippersnapper Vote

Posted by Jill Filipovic, Feministe at 2:00 AM on June 18, 2008.


“...when youth get involved in politics in large numbers, it is not a good thing...”
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Shorter Dennis Prager: “Get offa my lawn!"

Most adults throughout history have recognized that young people are likely to be unwise given their minuscule amount of life experience. After all, most adults, even among baby boomers, believe that they themselves are wiser today than 10 years ago, let alone than when they were 20 years old. It is remarkable, then, how often adults romanticize youth involvement in politics — “Isn’t it heartwarming to see young people getting involved?”

Actually, for a wise adult, it is not heartwarming.

And by “wise adult,” he means Republican. Of course, the best part is that he starts his column like this:

We regularly hear about Barack Obama’s appeal to youth, about how he has been able to excite and mobilize a generation of young people to become politically involved, his rare ability to excite young people, and about how many new voters will register (and vote Democrat) as a result.

All this seems to be true. The question, however, is whether it is a good thing for the country and not just for Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.

The answer is that it probably is not. With a few exceptions — and those exceptions are usually those rare cases when young people confront dictatorships — when youth get involved in politics in large numbers, it is not a good thing.

Right, except when they overthrow dictators – just that minor little thing. Otherwise, they’re fools, the whole lot of ‘em.

He goes on to beat the same dead horse that wingnuts have been beating for several decades now: Vietnam. Because if those hippies with their sex and their counter-culture hadn’t kept shouting about how Vietnam was so bad, we would have won.

Really, you’ve had about forty years to get over this one. Get over it. You were on the wrong side of history, as conservative so often are. And Prager, you’re downright crotchety at this point. But I hope at least Young Republicans are wise enough to listen to their elders and get out of this political stuff ASAP.


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What we have done to the generations following us
Posted by: Sissy on Jun 18, 2008 5:08 AM   
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frankly, its appalling. No wonder the younger generation is rising up this time. Good grief, look what we have done and by "we", its us that have allowed it to happen.

We have "forgotten" what each generation's mission should be....to make it better for those who follow us. Instead we are leaving them with a world in peril, domestically and globally. We beat our chests with morality but slime it every chance we get. We try and teach our kids not to fight but we go to and accept pre-emptive wars. We admonish them to share but they witness our greed and hypocrisy. And then you have "wingnuts" saying that it is "not a good thing for the young to get involved?" Or worse yet, "they don't know what they're doing"?

Sure they rose enmasse during the 60's & 70's over Viet Nam. I was on the edge of that and you would have seen the very same thing today had their been a draft for the equally insane war in Iraq. Personally I would have welcomed another "fight in the streets", but as long as its all volunteer now, there apparently was and is no need to vehemently protest. Sure it was brutal, at the time I was at the Command Center at the University of Wisconsin and remember the morning that a young researcher was killed when the Math Center was blown up so I'm certainly not condoning that time, but just like Iraq, Viet Nam should never have happened and totally ruined an entire generation. The Congress couldn't hold Johnson and Nixon's feet to the fire, but the kids sure did. If your name was Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Krystol, Rumsfield in 1970, not to fear. You either have a well-heeled daddy or you tucked yourself away in college....let the lunch bucket carriers do the dirty work. Just like today. I know that for a "fact" because I have a son on his third deployment.

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» Speaking of Romney's sons... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
uh, yeah
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 18, 2008 6:36 AM   
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"Vietnam. Because if those hippies with their sex and their counter-culture hadn’t kept shouting about how Vietnam was so bad, we would have won."

And if all the young chickenhawks of the day would have actually served in Vietnam we wouldn't have to hear them grouse so damned much today.

Also...perhaps if we hadn't had old white men in office at the time we wouldn't have been in vietnam in the first place. Nam fell... no other countries in the region did due to that. The war was pointless. These folks aren't grousing because they think we could have gained something from vietnam... they just wanted to "win"... and obviously no matter how many young people (besides themselves, of course) had to die to quench their thirst for victory itself the price was worth (someone else) paying.

The youth fight your wars, so please don't complain when they refuse to fight pointless wars for you to advance your own political ideas on the other side of the globe.

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» RE: uh, yeah Posted by: Sissy
» And in McCain... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
well well...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 18, 2008 6:40 AM   
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so they are only good for fighting tyrants? You mean leaders who hold people without charge indefinitely without access to council in secret detention with torture being an option in their questioning? Leaders who invade countries that haven't done anything to their country? Leaders that lie about the threat of other nations to advance their own goals through war? Leaders who ignore human rights, international law, and even the laws of their own nation when it suits them?

Ahem.....

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Let's Talk About the Boomers Shall WE!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 18, 2008 6:45 AM   
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what a gopup of lying sacks of shit they have turned out to be.
My theory (being 45- so a so called Late Boomer- I hate that term, I am nothing like them!)Daddy was going off to war so he knocked up mom, or had just returned. He saw the inhumanity to mankind and wanted to assure such atrocities or struggles would never happen again. So he worked his ass off to give every opportunity to his Kids (The Real Boomers)They took this as an Entitlemet with NO strings attached- Spoiled Rotten. The 'movement of the '60's' was nothing more then a temper tantrum which resolved it self once they plopped their asses down in the Big Corinthian Leather Chairs of Power. They never really learned community spirit or that they were part of a chain leading to the next generation. They felt all the struggles were meant purely for them- and hey they weren't struggling (they never had). Proof is in the lack of focus on long term care of their Parents- Been to a SNF, heard them wanting to gut Medicare & medicaid over the last 2 decades?If they Weren't gutting it they were milking it as the Private insurance Co's who conned the elderly out of the Coverage and limited the services to be Provided.
Now look at their lack of concern about anything regarding the Future- What age group is pushing for Offshore and Wilderness Drilling instead of moving forward on alternative Energy. Which Generation sucked the last remnents out of manugfacturing Jobs, Who began the 'Wall Street' gambling Casino Mentality?When did the downing of the American Ideals set forth by our founding Fathers begin-the '80's.When did the BS Oxymoron rhetoric begin like the 'Moral Majority' and the 'Family Values'.Who now fills these 'Mega Churches' who promote hate & Fear of Other communities but expounds the 'You are Special' Dogma?Who thinks (demands) that God is on their time table and will, of course, be the chosen generation for the 'Rapture'- Bascially the 'Fuck the Rest' Doctrine which has Highjacked our country for the last 2 decades???Hmmmm could it be the 'Boomers'. Having been a much younger sibling I have been Tormented by that generation long enough and have seen through the Propaganda first Hand.While they were driving BMW's,snorting Coke and Ripping off People with their S&L scandals of the late'80's I was working with Their Aged Parents trying to get them on the phone to buy their parent a new pair of Orthopedic Shoes, or come to a Family council Meeting!
having worked with the Elderly I can attest to one thing and Asshole at 30 is still an Asshole at 80!God Knows what we will have to contend with with the Boomers Spoiled self serving asses end up in long term care.They will then Expect services they could not bother themselves with when it came to their Parents.
Even more disgusting is what they have left for those of US behind them.They Don't even care about their own kids and Grandkids.Let them be labeled as the 'Worst Generation of All Time'.

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Bet Prager would be singing a different tune...
Posted by: Quannah on Jun 18, 2008 1:20 PM   
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if the Republics had a candidate that the "youth" were stampeding toward!

Their blathering is soooooo transparent and illogical, it's ridiculous.

Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert must find it hard to come up with bits for their shows because the truth is funnier than anything his writers could come up with! Maybe that's why they play so many actual clips during their shows... they don't have to write anything! This shit writes itself!

Do these bozos ever listen to themselves?

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as a misguided, clueless member of the politically active youth, I'd like to say
Posted by: aalif ba ta tha on Jun 18, 2008 5:34 PM   
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I know a whole lot of dumb as rocks adults who still think we went to Iraq for WMDs, who think global warming is a plot hatched by liberals and the world's scientists to raise taxes, and who care more about gay people getting married than Blackwater gunning down Iraqis.

Mr. Prager, where do they fit into your analysis?

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