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The Sexual Politics of Sex and the City

Posted by Amanda Marcotte, Pandagon at 7:00 AM on June 6, 2008.


Sexist criticisms of Sex and the City miss the point.
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Argh, I’m done hiding my head and will be brave enough to talk about it, having been inspired by Sarah Seltzer.  All these attacks on “Sex and the City” in light of the movie that has come out---mostly from people who probably never watched a minute of the show---are sexist.  And they’re a particularly insidious form of sexism, one that feminists are prone to falling for, which suggests that women don’t deserve respect unless they distance themselves from unserious things.  (Of course, if you adequately empty your life of humor and beauty to show how serious you are, you’ll get it for that, too.) As an audience member at one of my reading suggested, there’s something very fishy about the way the writers at Gawker and Jezebel bash the show for what?  Doing pretty much the same stuff that they do at those websites, except at least “SATC” is fictional.  And the sluttier-and-tougher-than-thou one-upmanship just made me embarrassed for the participants. 

But the worst is the assumption that because it’s about four women and it’s funny and it’s about sex and there’s expensive clothes, then it is by definition stupid.  Why?  Because it’s feminine, admit it.

Meanwhile, you’ve got commentators like Best Week Ever’s Paul F. Tompkins and MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann. They’re both generally smart, enlightened folks, but last night Tompkins dropped by Olbermann’s show so they could snicker their way through a “Sex and the City survival guide for men.” (Check it out below.) The premise, of course, was that no so-called real man would ever want to see a movie about three-dimensional, adult female characters. (The TV show also featured plenty of well-rounded, interesting male characters over the years, by the by — Steve, Aidan, Trey — but we can ignore that inconvenient fact.) Quipped Tompkins: “If you’re with a woman who is insisting that you go see this movie, I think it’s time to maybe date someone else. Because men are not meant to see this movie with women.” Way to police those restrictive gender roles, bro!

The show is assumed, especially by people bashing it who never gave it a chance, to be about a bunch of feather-headed, shoe-obsessed sluts who never have a serious moment in their lives, and just want men to rescue them.  That couldn’t be further from the truth.  Only two of the characters even wanted to get married, and the other two really did have good reason to believe husbands were obstacles to their career and life goals.  Moreover, the show did a beautiful send-up of the “marriage at any cost” desperation shoved on women---Charlotte, the one who buys the hype about getting married before your “sell-by date”, and ends up with a twit of a husband who can’t get it up for, you know, his sainted wife.  The only evidence for their supposedly being trifling, shallow women is frankly that they sat around at brunch cracking jokes about their sex lives, which is the sort of thing that gets labeled “shallow” when women do it, because it makes men sweat bullets.  Well, it makes women sweat bullets when it goes the other way, guys, but we just don’t have the social power to label and shame the behavior.  In fact, if women get up in arms about the worst excesses---guys who make sport of fucking desperate women and then mocking the women for it, something that the characters on “SATC” never did---it just encourages the behavior, because it makes it seem more naughty, more masculine.


I object to defenses of the show that are like, “Sure, it’s shallow, but so is ‘Transformers’!” C’mon, this show had a lot more going on than “Transformers”.  It’s not Bergmar or anything, but it was interesting and had a lot of variety and depth.  There got to be a point in the show where the writers began to buy the hype, and suddenly Carrie’s clothes-and-shoe obsession was less a joke on her and more a selling point, and then everyone started drifting towards marriage, and I drifted away as a viewer.  People assume the word “shallow” to describe the characters refers to their clothes and shoes, but even then, there’s no reason to think someone with feminine tastes is de facto shallow.  But I have another read: People who accuse the show of being shallow are echoing the right wing definition of “shallow”, which is women who have things in their lives that are important to them besides being wives and mothers to others.  It’s not the shoes or clothes that make them shallow, it’s that they lived for themselves.  They had careers and lovers and adventures, and they did it for their own reasons and on their own terms.

And that’s why, as I’ve said before, the show is a fantasy for a lot of fans who don’t have that opportunity to live, well, like men get to.  And that’s why the show is such a sore spot in our country, because it put a friendly face on that demonized woman, the independent woman.  There’s not a lot of room for independent women still in the Hollywood machine.  Movies like “Knocked Up” can push the envelope of raunchy humor, but still play it very safe and deny the threatening idea that a woman (gasp!) might not want to be tied down to just any random dude who asks.  I’m not arguing the show was a feminist manifesto or something---it was just a comedy show that happened to be about these characters---but just in that aspect, it apparently was a nuclear level threat that has to be shut down with mockery on major news shows from MSNBC to Fox.

I haven’t seen the movie, and I’m not sure I want to if it’s just going to continue where the show left off, which was off the rails from what made it originally so fun.  But there was a time there when it was a good show, dammit.


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it's too bad
Posted by: Becky on Jun 6, 2008 7:28 AM   
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that keith obermann is so sexist. otherwise, I enjoy hearing a reversal of the right-wing "news". but for some reason, so-called progressives feel it is ok to be sexist-- maybe even necessary, so that they don't look too much like "girly men."

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IT'S ALSO A DAMNED GOOD MOVIE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 6, 2008 7:54 AM   
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Alot more to the story than pricy shoes and sex. Traditional "Chick Flicks" center around 20 something women who are just plain silly. SITC covers 30-40. We have a growing popu- lation of unmarried women. It's a 10 year span that didn't exist until recently. It's no longer necessary to get married to be seen in public. Men and sex are a part of life but not the only reason to live. Female friendship is an entire study in itself. Thanks, ANNA

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I wasn't a big fan of the show and the movie for me was just average, but...
Posted by: LOertel on Jun 6, 2008 9:01 AM   
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I too find the responses of some (mostly men) towards this movie to be overly defensive/serious and perfectly ridiculous. Before seeing the movie with some friends, I went over to the IMDB message boards to look for some opinions, and there was any number of threads blathering on about "Why would any woman want to be this way, a man will never want them," "This show bad for women as it promotes bad values," "It seems American women aspire to be shallow and materialistic, I'm going to Europe," and "No man wants a woman who acts like a man (and in the same post they called the women shallow - if the SATC women = men and the SATC women also = shallow, then can it be assumed that they're inadvertently making the point of men = shallow?)." As if a mentally sound woman wouldn't have realized already that the show is fictional and not meant to be imitated mindlessly in real life. I'm sure a lot of it was common message-board trolling, but seriously, there are a lot of movies with women who truly are materialistic, shallow, and vapid...common chick flicks, I guess...and none of those have gotten shot down like Sex and the City (and I think THOSE are the movies that really portray women in a negative light). It really is a curious phenomenon, or maybe it's not so curious; maybe it's just a symptom of going against the gender roles ingrained in our society.

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This is utter CRAP
Posted by: Kym525 on Jun 6, 2008 9:31 AM   
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My criticism of Sex in the City has NOTHING to do with SEXISM and EVERYTHING to do with the restrictions and limits of women in Hollywood, especially women of color. Would SITC have the same impact if the four women were older, or perhaps of different races or disabled? Frankly, The Golden Girls was a hell of a lot more realistic in its portrayal of women and women's friendships (and Blanche is my idol for the sexually active woman of ANY age). SITC is merely fluff, not some radical changing of the guard.

I am so TIRED of the whiny feminist orthodoxy trying to shove stupid stuff down my throat and scaring women to death with these frivolous cries of "sexism". Doing so trivializes real sexism. Yes, there is indeed sexism, and even a progressive guy like Keith Olbermann can put his foot in his mouth on occasion, but I seriously doubt he goes home to his wife and demands her to be barefoot and pregnant. Men normally do not like "chick flicks" because they're pretty much all the same--hell, as a "chick" I don't even like most of them. My idea of a "chick flick" is Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with Russell Crowe.

However, this movie is NOT the best that we as TRUE feminists should be holding up as the standard. I don't mind the whole notion of women having sex in life-affirming and positive ways--hell, we should be doing more of that. However, SITC simply sends the wrong message--about beauty, about materialism, about the deeper insights into REAL women's hearts and minds. It's sex, shopping and dishiness.

You want a REAL movie that explores these issues--try CALENDAR GIRLS with Dame Helen Mirren, one of the sexiest women in the world!

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» RE: This is utter CRAP Posted by: goeswithness
» RE: This is utter CRAP Posted by: Kym525
it seems...
Posted by: rue on Jun 6, 2008 9:40 AM   
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...to say in this article that if a man doesn't want to see this movie, that he must be sexist.

i haven't seen the movie or the show (could never afford to have HBO), so i can't judge how the characters are portrayed. what i can judge is the hype. i refuse to watch something that everyone is trying to push down my throat. there are probably more than a few people out there who won't watch the movie for this reason.

btw, if you take something that paul f. tompkins says as worth paying attention to in a serious way, then there are other issues going on - he's a tabloid comedian; what do you expect?

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i'd hit it
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Jun 6, 2008 1:29 PM   
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with a thumb-diameter stick.

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What happened to Good Christian Entertainment?
Posted by: strahlungsamt on Jun 7, 2008 5:45 AM   
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Like Ron Jeremy (a fat aging hairy dude with a bad 70s hairstyle) having sex with thousands of barely legal women. That's wholesome stuff I want my son to learn from when he gets older.

But how dare a bunch of middle aged women give my daughter ideas about becoming a slut and not marrying a proper man! No Freakin' Way! I lock her in her bedroom (along with my wife) when that show comes on.

TV has no morals anymore I tells ya!

I Blame Oprah!

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I'm a man who's seen a few episodes of the show
Posted by: hodge on Jun 9, 2008 7:22 AM   
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In my younger years, I would have been "offended" (read: frightened) by the overt sexuality of the female characters on the show. Now, not really.

My main issue with the show is Carrie's constant pseudo-intellectual navel-gazing, and her use of puns. Seriously, they're not clever, they're not funny, they're f*cking lame!

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There are things I like and things I don't...
Posted by: goeswithness on Jun 9, 2008 9:03 AM   
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I have a little bit of a love/hate relationship with it, I'll admit. But I watch it! It amuses me. I think the thing that bugs me about it is that I just can't relate to people who have that much money and do care about clothes that much. I just don't!

But anyway, at heart it's about people, and I find people very interesting. Is it realistic? In some ways, no. But in other ways, there is some real truth about relationships in there.

Anyhow, I enjoy what I can about it, and my ex-husband, with whom I'm good friends, went with me because he sort of likes it too. He got bored by all the fashion - obvious product placement - and I don't blame him.

Most things aren't either all good or all bad.

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Feminist here, who loved the show
Posted by: Shey on Jun 9, 2008 6:10 PM   
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I haven't seen the movie & will wait for the DVD, but the show got a bad rap for all the wrong reasons. It was at it's heart, about relationships. Both romantic relationships and how/if an independent woman can fit them into her life without losing that independence. And about the relationships of four friends who were always there for each other.

Sure, the setting was unrealistic for most women, certainly myself included. Not only a place and lifestyle that I could never afford, but a place I'd rather die than live (I'm a lover of nature and a rural setting) and a lifestyle that has no appeal to me.

To other feminists who object to SATC, I would say this .... you're falling into one of the biggest and oldest anti-feminist traps. Real feminism allows women to do anything they want and can manage, to live any kind of lifestyle that appeals to them and to make their own choices, be it about relationships, careers or shoes. Which is exactly what the women of SATC do.
Not every woman who believes in the basic tenant of feminist (total equality with men in every area of life, period) can be an activist.

We women should also ask ourselves the question, how do we judge male-oriented action movies? I for one love a quality, well done action flick (see anything by Michael Mann). Do these films reflect anything we, or the men we know and respect, aspire to in real life? Nooo, they're just entertainment. Some of them are sexist, I avoid those.

But I would say that most "chick flicks" are equally sexist, because they are some of the worst offenders when it comes to playing into the gender stereotype of women as fulfilled in life only by marriage or the kind of relationship that equals marriage without the certificate, and/or "care-giver" roles.

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My complaint isn't about sexuallity..
Posted by: WizardofOhm on Jun 9, 2008 7:21 PM   
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I'm a man, and I've seen pretty much every episode ever made, courtesy my partner's obsession. There are some pretty good story lines here and there, as well as a few good laughs. I have full respect for the characters of Miranda and Samantha, easily the two strongest and sexually powerful characters in the group. Although Samantha's character would host a collection of STD's in reality, her comfort and confidence is nothing short of admirable. And Miranda's ability to honor a man for what's on the inside without getting caught up on appearances (steve is a total geek) makes her a hero to the common man and role model to realistic women.

Sure Charlotte is an easy target for a progressive, she embodies all the traditionally sexist and demeaning positions that women are expected to be subjected to. But she's supposed to! She is meant to be a contrast against the freedom of the other characters.

It's Carrie I have a problem with,
while she's not shallow, she is deep and conflicted and has several dimensions sure... but she is incredibly materialistic! Being obsessed with shoes may not define someone as shallow, but it sure as hell makes them materialistic, and if she is as intelligent as they portray her, then she should be aware of the consequences of her obsession with high end retail. If she IS aware, and doesn't care then indeed she IS shallow but I won't speculate, the fact of the matter is she is materialistic and that is a horrible image for the hero of the movie. Don't try to tell me that because nobody is driving around thinking their car is a transformer means that this movie won't be influential to young women. That's bullshit.

My partner is a great example, she is a progressive until she sets foot in a retail store, and SITC is her favorite show. This show and the movie are endorsements for corporate consumerism trying to play off feminist empowerment, if your a feminist and don't see this, you've been duped.

Go buy some designer clothes and stop teling me I'm sexist because I hate Sex in the City.

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