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Minnesota Teens Banned From Graduation After Flying Confederate Flag

Posted by Trish , Pensito Review at 4:26 AM on June 6, 2008.


A festering racism is oozing out of the cracks in our country, just as Barack Obama is emerging as a symbol of a new way.
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Three Minnesota teens learned a big life lesson on graduation day. They weren’t allowed to march with their classmates after sticking a huge Confederate flag in everyone’s face in the school parking lot.

Seniors Dan Fredlin and Justin Thompson, both 18, and Joey Snyder, 17, were suspended and restricted from the diploma ceremony after arriving at John F. Kennedy High School in Bloomington, Minn., Tuesday with the flags affixed to their cars. One of the teens had a flag hoisted on a 20-foot flagpole attached to his truck…

The school’s principal, Ron Simmons, who is black, made the decision to suspend the trio and ban them from the commencement, a decision school district officials affirmed.

“What is not acceptable is driving through the parking lot and waving the Confederate flag for the purpose of inciting a response,” Rick Kaufman, a spokesman for the Bloomington Public School district, told ABC News.

Kaufman cited a pair of state laws to justify the discipline decision, including the students’ willful disruption of the rights of others to an education and their endangerment of students and school property.

At the same time, as Jon reported, plans were unveiled for a huge Confederate flag to be flown by the Sons of Confederate Veterans along the I-4 corridor near Tampa.

The modern-day symbolism of the Confederate flag is a hard concept to express. Jon ended his post, “Time to find a new logo for pride in the South” but the Minnesota teens were hardly demonstrating that. They say that see something non-regional — and much sexier.

Kellie Rezac, a friend of the three suspended seniors, helped organize the unsuccessful protest….

Both Thompson and Rezac acknowledged the opinion of some that the flag is a symbol of hate, but said that there is a group of students in the class who celebrate the Confederate flag as a symbol of some stereotypically Southern lifestyles. “It’s country music, we have a lot of fun, we go mudding,” she said, describing “mudding” as pushing 4×4s off-road.

In popular culture, the Confederate flag has been celebrated — as a hood ornamentation on the General Lee in the television show “The Dukes of Hazzard” for example — but also used to depict racism and racist characters.

“The whole racism thing is a bandwagon idea that everyone jumped on that has very loose wheels,” she said.

Actually honey, to say that flag represents anything but racism — and white privilege borne on the back of the most exploitive, illegitimate, and dishonorable system conceived since the dark ages — is to just skim the surface. The Dukes of Hazzard was a Hollywood image of a South that exists in the minds of people who don’t live here. It’s unfortunate this “makes a better story” version struck a cord with young people like these three in Minnesota.

A festering racism is oozing out of the cracks in our country, just as Barack Obama is emerging as a symbol of a new way, an America 2.0. It’s not surprising that these concealed and unaddressed resentments would work their way to the surface now. The big question is, do we do what we have always done, and bemoan (us) ignorant racist Southerners, or do we face our national shame, our nationwide failing? Only one of these paths leads to the way we all wish these Midwestern three teens had chosen.


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"...struck a cord..."
Posted by: rancespergl on Jun 6, 2008 4:55 AM   
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It's 'chord'. It's a musical metaphor.

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» RE: "...struck a cord..." Posted by: Longdream
» RE: "...struck a cord..." Posted by: YogiBear
Interesting Article
Posted by: IntelliGent on Jun 6, 2008 6:37 AM   
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I'm not sure what to think about this. On one hand, its said our first amendment rights often protects the type of speech and expression you'd rather not see or hear about. It was probably in bad taste for these boys to have the flag on their truck, but the fact that they have the right to do such a thing, whether in bad taste or not, is what makes America and our Constitution great. On the other hand, due to their friend's comment, (“The whole racism thing is a bandwagon idea that everyone jumped on that has very loose wheels.”) it makes me wonder if they truly think that black folks have just been making up all this talk about racism from our heads. I'm not easily offended but I can't fathom how a few white kids with little life experiences or an idea what it means to be non-white in America can act as if they already have the answers to all of America's race issues. As a black man, that troubles me. I'm eager to hear the whole story and see what their true motive was to parading around with that flag.

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» RE: Interesting Article Posted by: Longdream
Mixed feelings on this one.
Posted by: rickiey on Jun 6, 2008 7:29 AM   
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Here's my breakdown:

1. I'm not a big fan of racists or any other form of idiot. And anyone who IS a racist, is an idiot, because only an idiot would believe that skin color should be a significant factor in, well, anything, really.

2. I'm a big fan of free speech. A really big fan. I use the heck out of it myself, in fact.

3. I'm not a big fan of racists being pushed underground. I don't think it is in anyone best interests to silence hate speech. When idiocy is forced underground, it becomes more legitimate. When it is out, open and public, hate speech gets exactly what it deserves: Public mocking.

With all that said though, a principal has a right to suspend a student, for the speech they use on a school campus, including the parking lot.

The principal had the prerogative to do what he did, and he was right to do so.

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The Bottom Line of the "Confederate Flag"
Posted by: kwfryatl on Jun 6, 2008 8:08 AM   
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While there were several political and socio-economic factors that contributed to the Civil War, one of the top reasons – if not the very top reason – was that the South believed they had the right to the continued enslavement of African-Americans.

I am so tired of seeing people trying to frame this issue of that flag being a “logo of pride for the South” or “the Confederacy's symbol of patriotic rebellion”.

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I had a student
Posted by: 2crazykids on Jun 6, 2008 8:19 AM   
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I had a student in my algebra class that insisted on wearing a confederate flag for a belt buckle (along with cowboy boots). Being a good 'ol southern boy from Georgia placed in "yankee" northern boarding school he felt the need to represent his very different culture appropriately.

I approached him about it bothering me and affecting my comfort level. I asked him first what his confederate flag was representing for him and he assured me that it was his southern pride, etc. Not racism. But I went on to explain that in most American's eyes that flag represents racism at its worse and could really affect what people think of HIM and HIS CHARACTER. That was all I could do really. I asked him to take into account his AA classmates feelings, but to no avail. But he assures me it's not about racism. But that was nothing compared to the confed. flag hanging proudly covering his dorm room wall...

Again, there is not much we can do...Free speech needs to be protected, even if it's things we don't want to hear or see...

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» RE: I had a student Posted by: Longdream
» RE: I had a student Posted by: YogiBear
ridiculous
Posted by: drmflorida on Jun 6, 2008 8:43 AM   
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Why are we giving these dimwitted tools any of the attention that they so desperately crave? Perhaps if we ignore them long enough, they will drive their 20 foot flag pole into a power line and give Darwin a head start.

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You can have a muslim indoctrination class in a California public school...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 6, 2008 2:09 PM   
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...but you can't have a group of yahoo's expressing their God/creator/gawd-given right to express their yahoo opinion in Minnesota.

/Shakes head and wonders wtf you people are thinking with respect to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and separation of church and state.

You know, you really don't have to agree with your neighbor to agree that he has a right to an opinion, outside yours. That's the damn crux between democracy and liberty.

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» Trying to speak more simply: Posted by: ABetterFuture
The Real Test
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jun 7, 2008 10:05 PM   
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It's sad that 143 years after the Confederacy lost the Civil War, some folks still haven't gotten over it. The insensitivity and racism are offensive, but I agree with the above comments that they should have been able to express themselves. It's dangerous when we start suppressing speech with which we don't agree, and had they displayed peace flags instead, we'd all be defending them.

The real test of our commitment to the Constitution isn't how we react to those we like, but to those we don't.

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Hood ornamentation?
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 8, 2008 6:27 PM   
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, the Confederate flag has been celebrated — as a hood ornamentation on the General Lee in the television show “The Dukes of Hazzard

Actually it was on the roof.

Try using Google next time. It's easy!

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