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Democrats Have Their Nominee. Will the Machines Let Him Win?

Posted by Jill Hussein C., Brilliant at Breakfast at 11:19 AM on June 5, 2008.


America must still come to terms with problems in its voting system.
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So now we have our nominee, and Hillary Clinton is going to "suspend" her campaign this weekend after one last victory rally on Saturday. But any Democrat that thinks all we have to worry about now is John McCain is a fool.

Brad Friedman has been all over the completely FUBAR voting system in this country for the last four years now. If you're not reading Bradblog every day, you should be. Because when you go to vote in November, you have no idea what's going on inside that box.

I ran for county Democratic Committee this year after being recruited by a group of renegade Democrats in an attempt to topple the organization's pay-to-play, crony-driven, self-enriching Chairman. I didn't figure on winning, but it was a toe-dip into the political waters, because the town iin which I live is not only controlled entirely by Republicans, but no one from either party ever runs against the existing machine. I kid you not. We have elections every few years, but the only names on the ballot are the current mayor and council. Our mayor was busted in DWI charges last year with a cocktail waitress in the car, and his house is on the market. So who knows if he's even still planning to live in town? This year the council has allocated $1 million in a town of just over 9000 people to install artificial turf on the sports fields. The budget is determined behind closed doors, it's already been approved, and while you can go to the next open council meeting (there's only one a month) and voice your opinion (which I plan to do), it's already a done deal. This is part of the reason why voter turnout in at least my own voting district in Tuesday's primary was eight percent. Not eighty. Eight.

No, I didn't win, but I did get ten votes out of 37 votes cast, which I think is quite impressive considering I was up against a machine hack and my "campaign" consisted of a letter dropped off at around 20 houses. Imagine if I'd done a real mailing with follow-up. Of course, since the others running on my line got their asses profoundly kicked, I would have ended up on committee with a bunch of pay-to-play thugs, so it's actually a blessing that I didn't win.

But since I spent the last half-hour the polls were open as a "challenger", and stayed to get the numbers, I got to talk to the poll workers about what they do, and about the machines, and got a pretty good sense that these poll workers have absolute trust in the voting machines and absolutely no sense that these machines could be tampered with. Their "check" of discrepancies is to count the number of stubs from the tickets for each party they hand to voters against the machine's vote totals. Of course after I got through with them they had more of an idea of just how the software could be changed to produce a predetermined result, but my guess is they will continue to trust the voting machines, because what choice do they have?

In my county, we use the Sequoia AVC Advantage voting machine. The brochure for the machine (scroll down to the last page) states:

The AVC Advantage requires no specialist knowledge to operate
or maintain. It performs a self-diagnosis at every power-up, and
its error messages display in plain, easy-to-understand language
for quick and simple trouble-shooting. Plus its modular-component
design allows easy in-field part replacement or system upgrade.


This machine allows "no access to the embedded programming", but what happens if the firmware goes on the fritz? Are the guts of the machine yet another "modular component"?

As Ellen Thiesen of Voters Unite wrote at Bradblog earlier this year, 60 of these machines showed vote discrepancies in New Jersey's February presidential primary. More on this here.

Given the close attention that Brad Friedman pays to the nuts and bolts of voting, you'd think that whoever's tampering with these machines would make damn sure that he votes on one that works the way it's supposed to. But you'd be wrong:

As a fairly well-known Election Integrity journalist who has personally covered, for years, the myriad election woes of thousands (if not millions) of voters around the country who have tried to bring seemingly endless stories of votes flipped on e-voting systems to the attention of officials, these stories always continue to be remarkable to me, even if not to many others in the rest of the mainstream media.

It's even more troubling when one realizes that so little ever seems to be done in light of so many of these horror stories, as those very same failed systems are still deployed across the nation, with little or no modification to correct the mountains of documented problems even now, as we head towards an election likely to be of historic proportions this November.

What follows is yet another one of those stories, where a voter had vote selections flipped by the electronic voting system, such that candidates were chosen other than the ones intended to be selected by the voter, though no fault of his own.

But this time, the voter is me.

Though I've covered so many of these stories, it was nonetheless remarkable to see it happen before ones very eyes, as occurred yesterday when I voted here in Los Angeles during our very low turnout California state Primary election.

The ES&S electronic voting system that I used to try to vote on yesterday, ended up flipping a total of 4 out of the 12 contests and initiatives for which I had attempted to vote.

Right before my very eyes, the computer-printed ballot produced by the voting system I was using, incorrectly filled in bubbles for four of the races I was voting in. Had I not been incredibly careful, after the ballot was printed out, to painstakingly compare what was printed to what I actually voted for, I'd have never known my votes were being given to candidates I did not vote for.

Had I been a blind voter --- as the system I was using is largely intended for use by the disabled --- I would have cast my ballot without having a clue that a full 40% of the votes I'd tried to cast for various California Superior Court judges were flipped to other candidates...


After speaking late last night about the problem to Dean Logan, the current acting Registrar-Recorder for Los Angeles County (the country's largest voting jurisdiction) and officials from the CA Sec. of State's office, I can report the failed e-voting machine in question is now being quarantined for testing to try and determine what happened in this, just the latest in a mounting string of failures by voting systems made by ES&S, the country's largest supplier of voting equipment.


The elderly poll workers at the 1950's-vintage public school where I vote are lovely people. Most of them have lived in the town for decades, raising their children there and trying valiantly to stay in their homes despite property taxes that see hundreds of dollars of increases every year because of their unaccountable local government. One of the poll workers told me of growing up in northern Ireland where only property owners had the right to vote. These are not technologically-literate people. MAYBE a few of them know their way around the internet enough to get to the Flickr albums of photos of their grandchildren. For all that they've been closing these machines for a decade, watching them close the vote at the end of the day was sort of like watching myself try to connect the DVR box, the DVD player, and the VCR to the television set in the basement family room. How do you explain to these people how you can write a dozen lines of code that would take every nth vote for Candidate A and change it to a vote for Candidate B?

Perhaps we can all take a day or so and pat ourselves on the back about the vision of our party. But we can't take any more than that. Because not only are we up against yet another complete wackjob running on the Republican side, we are also up against a voting system that is at best unreliable, and at worst designed to be rigged to produce a predetermined result.


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blind faith
Posted by: mwildfire on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM   
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And nobody's doing anything about it. I've encountered the same attitude in the poll workers, both when I lived in a small city and now in a small town--they all just LOVE the machines. Yes, there is a paper ballot you can monitor, if you think to do so--but are they counting those, to check whether they match the official tally? No. You can't generate the groundswell that could change this without the media helping out, and of course the media IS the status quo and will do no such thing. So we end up HOPING that McCain won't be handed the Presidency as Bush was, regardless of the actual votes. This is not democracy. The idea that nobody would steal an election is as naive as the idea that nobody would embezzle money from a bank.

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» RE: blind faith Posted by: aogfc
» RE: blind faith Posted by: uluro
By all accounts it should be a Republican . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM   
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. . . bloodbath this fall, and this is my number one issue of concern.

How do we stay on top of this? How can anything be done?

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How to make sure your voting machine works right
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Jun 5, 2008 6:21 PM   
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take a shotgun with you to vote

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FYI: These stories have a connection
Posted by: foreverhope on Jun 5, 2008 9:59 PM   
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Obama May Strike a Chord With Disaffected Republicans

By Amy Goodman, King Features Syndicate. Posted June 5, 2008.

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Powder Keg
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 AM   
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Anything 'happens' during this Election and During the Voting Process this country will Go Balistic!
So to any of those Criminals who TRIED to Rigg the Dem Primary Votes- BEWARE. We are not going to look jsut at the Well Known Neo CONs to place blame ( or their heads) we will be looking Directly at the Neo CONS in Blue!
The Michigan Primary was Rigged BY MY States "leading Dems" and I intend to not only run them out of Office but work my ass off to get them convicted of Election Fraud.Et Tu Levin, Kildee, Granholm,Stabenow...???
The Clinton machine Proved itself to be as Dirty and UNAmerican as the 'Cheney machine'- "His Girl" his protege No Doubt!Her Pulling the'Sexism Card' was a dead give away to her willingness to through Anyone an danything under the Bus to 'Win'. Hillary is a POS with a vagina!REAL Libbers are PISSED she used a tactic she had NO Rightful Claim To- They rolled out the damn red carpet for her, smoothed it and held her hand all the way down, and SHE Tripped on it anyway.
The Only thing she Did for the Dem party was to Reenforce the reality regarding the Covert Operatives in 'Blue' who have been working in Unison with the Criminals In RED.they USED Religion She USED The Womens Movement.
I strongly Suggest it be a concerted Effort to assure Sen Obama Safety throughout this election, A TRUELY HONEST election Process and Pray to God Nothing Happens while he is in Office.Consider Yourselves ALL Guardian Angels over this Candidate and His Presidency. Just Watch the Crowds- it's Not just the Secret Sevice Scanning the Audience- so are many in the Audience. Anything happens to this Man the SS will Not be the Ones to catch the traitor- Only perhaps a Leg thrown Out during the malay. have No Doubt the Citizens of this Country will Seek Swift and harsh Retribution from anyone who jepordizes OUR chances at regaining Our nation and Our Potential!We Will be hunting Down Conspirators this time. No more BS investigative panels- We'll be using W's form of 'Cowboy justice'.At any rally I will Attend My Ears will be On Obama- My Eyes on the Audience.and Considering the Blood We already KNOW is on the hands of so many in Gov't and Industry already- i will be happy to lay that On Their Door step too- regardless of lack of Evidence.Just give US a reason to SEIZE our Country Back by force, we're Itching for the Fight!

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go to blackboxvoting.org
Posted by: bouyant on Jun 6, 2008 10:10 AM   
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watchdogging the system

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Lawsuits NOW
Posted by: FoonTheElder on Jun 7, 2008 2:03 AM   
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This is why the review of the adequacy of polling places and the machine must be done NOW! Any challenges need to be brought to the courts immediately. Waiting until the election is not an option.

The false hope that "Maybe this time it will be different", is putting your hands in the fate of political criminals. The illegal voting games need to be handled ahead of time, because as we all know, nothing will be done to change the results after the elections.

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Electronic voting with a verifiable paper trail...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jun 7, 2008 3:48 AM   
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...and this paper trail should be mandatorily monitored for performance standards under watchful eyes of the electoral commission for emerging technologies

don't scrap the electronic voting tablet... it actually makes sense...
just ensure you get a paper ticket printed out, and that the paper ticket is the item being counted,
at least until the tech is proven and approved by all concerned!

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Obama, the greatest American Presidential candidate ever
Posted by: himadad on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 AM   
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Obama is without a doubt the greatest American candidate for your office of President that America has ever had or ever will; and if you wish to argue against that you will only prove that you are the typical uneducated American racist.

Electing Obama for your President will help improve the opinions of Muslims across the world of what we think about Americans. What you Americans may not know is that in the eyes of Muslims and the rest of the world, America has the reputation for being the most corrupt, evil, racists, and destructive nation this planet has ever had. For the most part, we cannot stand to be in the presence of the typical overconfident and egotistical American whether they are Democrat or Republican and we have hope that Obama might be able to change your country because it definitely needs to change.

Obama will help your country reduce your fuel costs. He will help eliminate your crime. Obama will end your health care costs. He will supply all of your children with education. He will take the money from all of your corrupted wealthy businessmen and help the people he knows needs it. Obama has an ability to work with all people and make things much better for America.

Obama is kind, generous, intelligent, and understands Muslims as well as the rest of the world. Because Obama holds no racism or hate, he will actually talk and listen to Muslims and others that your country calls evil. If Obama isn’t elected, why would you want to continue to live in such a sick and perverted country? If Obama isn’t elected, I am concerned that your country will fall.

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