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McCain Puts His Temper on Full Display with Anti-Obama Rant

Posted by Digby, Hullabaloo at 1:29 PM on May 23, 2008.


The Republican reveals his inner hot head with an audacious shot across the bow to Obama.
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If John McCain goes ballistic every time he's mildly criticized by Barack Obama, this is going to be a much more interesting campaign than I thought. Yesterday Obama said this:

I respect Sen. John McCain's service to our country. He is one of those heroes of which I speak. But I can't understand why he would line up behind the president in his opposition to this GI bill. I can't believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans. I could not disagree with him and the president more on this issue. There are many issues that lend themselves to partisan posturing, but giving our veterans the chance to go to college should not be one of them.

Wow, that was shockingly below the belt, don't you think? No? Well, McCain apparently did:

It is typical, but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of. Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for President is different than serving as President. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend. Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I have earned the right to make that claim...

I know that my friend and fellow veteran, Senator Jim Webb, an honorable man who takes his responsibility to veterans very seriously, has offered legislation with very generous benefits. I respect and admire his position, and I would never suggest that he has anything other than the best of intentions to honor the service of deserving veterans. Both Senator Webb and I are united in our deep appreciation for the men and women who risk their lives so that the rest of us may be secure in our freedom. And I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did...

Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election.

(He went on to say "You can't handle the truth! You fucked with wrong POW!")

It's well known that McCain has a temper. He is commonly despised by people he works with. But I don't agree with Kevin here that this is just an intemperate blast that shows he's too hot-headed to be president (although he certainly is.) It is to establish his dominance on military issues and the war. As much as he's a mean man for real, he is also a ruthless politician who is positioning himself as the older Alpha Dog against the "disrespectful" upstart. This is some primitive stuff unfolding here.

McCain is also playing rather crudely into the developing theme that Obama isn't patriotic or quite a "real American." You would think that it would be ridiculous to claim such a thing when Obama is voting for a GI Bill and McCain isn't, but when you really look at what McCain does in his statement (you can read it in full, here) he goes out of his way to juxtapose his family's long history in the US military with claims about Obama only supporting veterans out of political convenience. It's really quite insidious.

I have no doubt that McCain really was pissed off. But this statement is also a political document, vetted by the campaign, and they aren't idiots. They released it for a reason. We all think this makes McCain look like a crazed hot head and that people will reject him for it. But keep in mind that this kind of thing also plays into McCain's carefully crafted persona of being a "straight shooter" who doesn't calculate his every word for public consumption. Losing his cool is part of what a lot of people like about him. They see it as a sign of authenticity.

It's a rather audacious shot across the bow to Obama, who came back with a measured and reasonable response:

I am proud to stand with Senator Webb and a bipartisan coalition to give our veterans the support and opportunity they deserve. It's disappointing that Senator McCain and his campaign used this issue to launch yet another lengthy personal, political attack instead of debating an honest policy difference. He should know that this is not about John McCain or Barack Obama — it’s about giving our veterans a real chance to afford four years of college without harming retention. Senator Webb’s bipartisan bill will do this, and the bill that John McCain supports would not. These endless diatribes and schoolyard taunts from the McCain campaign do nothing to advance the debate about what matters to the American people.

I find that convincing, of course. The idea of that macho freak McCain at the helm makes visions of Cheney and Rumselfeld dance in my head. But I don't honestly know if everyone sees it my way. This guy has made a career out of pretending that he answers to no authority and is afraid of no one. I'm not sure that there aren't quite a few people out there who see a man like that as the kind of president that's needed to bring real change to Washington. It fits into a certain archetypal groove. I'm not sure calling such comments "disappointing" is going to be enough over the long haul.


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Posted by: debmcd on May 23, 2008 1:48 PM   
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Does McCain have any idea what being President is truly like. NO. He can't because he has not been president. No one can say what it is to be president unless you've actually done the job. Not even McCain. There comes a point that you just can't cry every time somebody says or does something you don't like. That time would be now McCain. You're running to be president and people should know exactly how you stand on issues. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. He is just so used to the media treating him with kid gloves. Well this is a political race and you just have to suck it up Senator. "Old man yells at cloud".

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an idea
Posted by: comradebob on May 23, 2008 2:19 PM   
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I wonder if the BO campaign might not want to consider unleashing Merrill McPeak again. (He's the retd. USAF chief who once told McCain that getting shot down didn't make you a hero, shooting the other guy down did.)

I also wonder whether BO might wish to talk about how many real-life, non-famous, enlisted-level vets he worked with & for as a community organizer and state legislator - as opposed to McCain's schmoozing at the Officers' Club and politicking with the vets' organization poohbahs.

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» RE: an idea Posted by: EverJack
Maybe McCain is talking in his sleep
Posted by: Jeanne on May 23, 2008 2:34 PM   
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It could the the Ambien talking. I have seen reports that Ambien is one of the medications prescribed to McCain. This is a scary thought that he could do any number of things while asleep (users have been known to drive, to cook and consume meals, walk, talk, etc.) without memory of the events upon waking up. This hot-headed man could call a war in the middle of the night, and wonder how he wound up in the bunker in the undisclosed location in the morning.

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» WOW! Posted by: foreverhope
» RE: WOW! Posted by: indepentent
» RE: WOW! Posted by: Longdream
Does anybody else find it ironic...
Posted by: Quannah on May 23, 2008 2:41 PM   
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that he slams Obama, saying he doesn't have the right to say anything about a subject he knows nothing about (the military), yet he supports a war waged almost entirely by people in this administration who never served in the military? I guess the diatribe is only deserved if you have a (D) behind your name.

My guess is, Obama hit a nerve. McStain knows he sold our soldiers out.

He's going to continue to spout off, stick his foot in his mouth, and people are going to get to see the REAL McStain in the coming weeks and months.

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MCCAIN HAS A SHORT MEMORY
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 23, 2008 3:00 PM   
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He went to the Naval Academy, barely made it through on our tax dollars. He got the best medical treatment and as much of it as he needed when he was released. He continues to live off the tax payers to this day. Marrying well is not considered a 'career'. Seems to me he's the last guy who would want to deprive the good people who serve this country of anything within reason. He should be ashamed of himself. Thanks, ANNA

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Weak and weasely McCain
Posted by: Rune on May 23, 2008 3:21 PM   
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McCain:
"Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for President is different than serving as President. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend.

Did I miss something? Isn't McCain running for president, not serving as president? I mean, what, exactly, is his point? If he was president he would support some benefits that could help vets make it at home, but because he is running for president he feels obligated to hurt the vets AND hurt the country by opposing education benefits that would serve both?

This is such utter nonsense it deserves to be the brunt of a a thousand jokes over the next week or two.

Straight talk? Come on, this is straight out crazy talk! He can grunt, growl, and grimace all he wants, but there is nothing tough or honest about turning your back on your fellow veterans who have put their lives on the line in part because they were promised that the risk would be repaid with some education (and housing and medical) benefits, all because you have put together a campaign team that is so sold out to lobbyists that you can't find the courage to support a few crumbs for the rank and file if some of those crumbs might come off the fat slice you have been cutting for your fat friends at the other end of the economic spectrum.

McCain is setting himself up for being trashed as a weak and weasely character, and the Democrats are setting themselves up for another failure if they can't capitalize on the opportunity to put him away early.

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» RE: McCain: Insane in the Membrane Posted by: allyourbasearebelongtous
I hate to say it, but I'm with McCain on this one
Posted by: ashghost on May 23, 2008 3:27 PM   
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Of the two comments, Obama's was cheaper. McCain did publish a long response, but 80% of the response addressed the issue, not Obama (and unfortunately you reprinted the other 20% plus a few sentences).

I'm definitely not on McCain's side (I voted for Nader in 2000), and this article almost sounds like Republican talking points. It paints a picture of McCain spluttering these words, shaking and red-faced, even though it was published as a press release.

I know that Rove's tactic of repeating it until it might as well be true has been really effective over the last decade, but we just can't sink to their level.

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» If we can't afford to help the vets Posted by: xconservative
Fire him Up and watch him Implode!!
Posted by: Kimmy on May 23, 2008 3:46 PM   
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Mac is on a collision course with himself. Just kep baiting Sen Obama - he'll do the rest...
apparantly has alwways had a 'Rank' personality- and people like that begin to lose their ability (or desire) to hold back as tehy age. Also t hink he's had a Stroke which interfers with impulse control.
Keephitting him where it will totally piss him Off. Love when his face turns as red as a Tomato! Looks about ready to go 'Scanners' LOL.
Keep talking and ranting Mac your doing the work to defeat you for US!

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Pentagon Connected Ministry's Obama Bashing Message
Posted by: ThePublicRecord on May 23, 2008 4:25 PM   
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http://www.pubrecord.org/

Pentagon Connected Ministry's Obama Bashing Message

By Chris Rodda
The Public Record
May 22, 2008

Published in : Nation/World

The almost incomprehensible attack on Barack Obama below is excerpted from a "Sermon of the Month" by Dr. Cecil Todd, founder of Revival Fires International, a 501(c)3 ministry which, "at the request of the Chief Chaplains of the Pentagon," has been shipping Bibles to Iraq, via military airlift, since 2003. According to a Revival Fires press release this "full Bible is designed and authorized by the Chief Chaplains of the Pentagon." This Pentagon involvement and Bible distribution led Navy chaplain LCDR Brian K. Waite to Revival Fires.

In 2001, LCDR Waite, then a mega-church pastor and reserve chaplain, published a virulently anti-Muslim book titled Islam Uncovered -- a book which was pulled from the shelves in 2002 due to plagiarism and faked endorsements. A few months later, Waite was accepted into the Naval Chaplain Corps. As an active duty chaplain, Waite has not only endorsed Revival Fires in uniform on the ministry's website, but appeared on advertisements for, and as a featured speaker at, their 2006 and 2007 campmeetings. He is also scheduled to appear at their 2008 campmeeting, to be held in June.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) recently exposed LCDR Waite's anti-Muslim writings, his plagiarism scandal, his blatant violations of military regulations in endorsing Revival Fires Ministries, and his diploma-mill educational background. Waite's anti-Muslim ideology led to his dismissal from the faculty of the Graduate Theological Foundation, a civilian institution where he was the director of a Military Ministries doctoral program, but no apparent action by the military.

Excerpts from "Who I Want In The White House!"
By Dr. Cecil Todd

Today, a fierce political battle rages across our nation, as once again the American people will be choosing who will lead our country as President, for the next four years!

The top contenders in this race are Hillary Clinton, Barack Hussein Obama and John McCain -- all three of these Presidential wannabe’s are U.S. Senators.

Many sincere -- seeking Americans are asking “WHO WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON OF THESE THREE PEOPLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD?”

.................................

As a minister, I am forbidden by law to tell you how to vote! (I would never do that!) Yet, we all know this law is being broken again and again by many ministers, who are pushing their liberal candidates! I will urge you , “Do not vote as a Democrat … and do not vote as a Republican … BUT AS A CHILD OF GOD BE SURE TO VOTE!

As a servant of the most high God, I beg you, “Do not vote for a ‘baby-killer,’ or a promoter of the homosexual life-style or someone who will sell-out our freedoms as a nation and as Christians! That does narrow down the candidates!

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The no-brainer election.
Posted by: HughScott on May 23, 2008 4:42 PM   
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It's clear that Barack is not only smarter than McCain but mentally tougher. John will lose in November, assuming he doesn't self-destruct before then.

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Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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It's Simple
Posted by: elanne on May 23, 2008 7:16 PM   
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'Clean Coal' is an oxymoron.

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It plays to the McAmbien image
Posted by: PaulK on May 23, 2008 7:30 PM   
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Emotionally, Senator McCain needs to "feel" presidential to the voters. What I get from this speech is partly a presidential attack dog image and partly a medicated image. Anyone can be an attack dog with the right meds. To be an effective and useful attack dog you have to have a rational side too.

'(He went on to say "You can't handle the truth! You fucked with wrong POW!")'

Senator, it's been 40 years now. Have you been dragging those honorable medals out year after year? Is that all you've got?

BTW, someone ought to explain to the younger voters about the "POW-MIA" flags that now fly at every AmVets and VFW, and why the VFW still demands that the rest of the POW-MIAs return from Vietnam. They're not all back, are they? Did you know that hundreds of 70 year old soldiers are still held in a barbed wire camp in Laos, as depicted on the flag?

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manchurian candidate
Posted by: cwilsondrum on May 23, 2008 9:39 PM   
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I find it so hilarious that after Coultergeist brought up manchurian candidate trying to slam Obama,and after Keith Olberman handed her head to her on his next show stating that trying to use that analogy,when McWar is the POW. the dunce just keeps proving Olberman's point. Hope Crusherinavice(coulter) sees all these tantrums. It'll give her something to do trying to justify her stupidity and unfunnycleverness. bitch

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Fuck you, Sen. McCain
Posted by: hurricane hugo on May 23, 2008 10:22 PM   
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Talking shit about other people not serving when you didn't even have the decency to vote "yes" or the guts to vote "no" on the new GI Bill.

jdfu!

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» RE: Fuck you, Sen. McCain Posted by: Longdream
McCain should never...
Posted by: Maxemum on May 24, 2008 10:07 AM   
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be elected the president of these United States. Do we really want another president so much like the one we have now? Secondly, his temper is likely to start a massive war. Isn't this the guy that sang Bomb Iran?

He is the last thing that the U.S. needs right now at this point in time.

http://forums.freep.com/index.php
Issues and Election 2008

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Here's a site worth reading thoroughly. McCain sure doesn't want this out.
Posted by: Marion517 on May 24, 2008 11:30 AM   
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http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

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Of course...
Posted by: Philip Newton on May 24, 2008 12:28 PM   
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...this is really an issue of class.

McCain served. He ought to be the first to pass legislation to help others who also served. However, McCain had the advantage of an Admiral father and a rich beer heiress with a deep purse. He don't need no steenking GI Bill.

Other grunts aren't so lucky. But I'll take even odds that those grunts will respond to McCain's chest thumping before considering that it is Obama -- not McCain -- who is in their corner.

It's going to work, this calculated madness. It will, unless John Q. Grunt gets his eyes open before November.

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McCain is pathetic.
Posted by: Longdream on May 24, 2008 1:15 PM   
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He stopped making sense a long time ago. This is just another example of his tangential relationship with reality.

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Liam
Posted by: Liam on May 25, 2008 8:26 PM   
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As a USAF Vet (1966-70) and a veteran who used his GI Bill all the way through grad school I suspect John McBush does not even understand the GI Bill. Think about it he was a prisoner of war the entire time - he already had his college degree (what was he going to do when he was discharged? Do an appenticeship?) Read the crap he said in response to Obama - the jerk doesn't know what he is talking about.

Unfortunately the Democrats do not seem to have any political types who served in the enlisted ranks who can pick up on these nuances. McBush doesn't know what the hell he is talking about and doesn't understand the GI Bill because he never had anything to do with it. Come on Democrats get some "grunts" on your advisory staffs!

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What a loser
Posted by: frantaylor on May 25, 2008 9:14 PM   
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John W McCain shows up for a poker game and proudly shows everyone else his hand as it's dealt.

Obama will utterly destroy McCain in debate. McCain has kindly provided a list of his buttons and how to push them.

Someone with military training should supposedly know not to reveal your weaknesses to the enemy.

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Enough already!
Posted by: PJAW on May 27, 2008 10:47 AM   
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John McCain is no war hero, he was a POW. Now, while I respect the fact that he served, and sympathize with him for what he endured, I don't believe it in any way makes him more or less quailified to be President.

The fact that he is willing to turn his back on veterans by not supporting a bill that 75 other senators do (including vets who were not POW's), shows just how out of touch he is.

I don't care what a person's history is, if you want respect, you need to act respectably. John McCain doesn't do that. He confuses "straight talk" with saying whatever the hell pops into your head at any given moment, even if it's contradictory to something you said before.

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MyGosh
Posted by: MyGosh on May 27, 2008 12:33 PM   
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The good old boys and gals of the media, and most black Americans, regard Hillary Clinton's recent statement including the specter of assassination as another irresistible opportunity to jump upon anything whatsoever she says—and wring it for racial undertones. Well, let’s see if in the competition between the guys, Mr. McCain is treated as unfairly as Ms.Clinton. For example, why has not MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, Fox News, The New York Post, misogynists of any sexual preference and racists of any hue and the Obama campaign jumped rapidly and rabidly on McCain for his recent response to Obama on the soldier’s education funding issue—McCain vehemently proclaimed he “won’t take a backseat to anyone….” How dare Mr. McCain cast such clearly racist, perverse and mean spirited aspersions on our darling Obama and the valiant Rosa Parks!

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» RE: MyGosh Posted by: radiomorning
Your premise is inaccurate
Posted by: nomomorons on May 27, 2008 1:51 PM   
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He really is a bit of a madman! I mean, as in, when he gets mad, he loses it. Ask anyone who's been around him for any amount of time (not just the press, for whom he stays on best behavior); the man has wall-eyed hissie fits with great regularity!

Not safe to have him near that red button!!! And he will prove that as this campaign continues. He will self-destruct. Post traumatic stress syndrome, narcissistic self-absorption, unresolved oedipal issues--don't know/don't care. McCain is regularly overtaken by frightening bouts of lunacy!

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Answer the question
Posted by: truthfinder on May 27, 2008 4:00 PM   
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Notice that McCain did not answer the question of why he voted the way he did? Instead he attacks ad hominum. Great comeback, McTirade, The presidential debates are going to be a lot of fun watching you blow up, and all Obama has to do is tell the truth.

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McCain
Posted by: lamac66 on May 27, 2008 5:47 PM   
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Will be his worst enemy. His gaffes alone will do him in. He'll be like stretch Armstrong trying to appease everyone in the Republican/Conservative party.

He'll be forced to choose choose between the two and when he does, he's done. He's an uninspiring panderer.

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EJLima
Posted by: EJLima on May 27, 2008 9:09 PM   
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When one flies a "support our troops" flag on ones new suv and then abandons them after they come home it means ..... I AM A HYPOCRIT .... when one gets shot down on a mission it means "MISSION FAILED" ...When a group defrauds their government taxpayers of $10,000,000,000 (ten billion)and excuses itself it means not worthy of praise, glory, or thanks. It means NO VOTE for hypocrisy, failure, and fraud. When one....

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» RE: JLima Posted by: wiseoldgranny