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Lieberman: Hamas Endorsement Shows Difference With McCain

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 4:00 PM on May 12, 2008.


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Shortly after promising not to engage in these kinds of attacks, John McCain went after Barack Obama a few weeks ago over an ostensible "endorsement" from a Hamas spokesperson. It was a cheap and ridiculous move -- especially given the fact that McCain and Obama have the same position on Hamas -- which Time's Joe Klein accurately described as "gutter crap."

It was therefore not surprising at all to see Joe Lieberman repeat and legitimize the bogus line yesterday on CNN.

Lieberman began by complaining about Obama's "lost his bearings" comment, insisting, "[T]o say he lost his bearings suggests something more fundamental and personal." (It really wasn't.)

But when Wolf Blitzer noted that McCain and Obama have the same position, Lieberman conceded that this was true and acknowledged that Obama “clearly doesn’t support any of the values and goals of Hamas.”

But then he had to add: “But the fact that the spokesperson for Hamas would say they would welcome the election of Senator Obama really does raise the question, ‘Why?’ And it suggests the difference between these two candidates.”

I’ve come to expect very little from Lieberman, especially in his new-found role as a Republican surrogate, but this is just wildly unnecessary and more than a little inappropriate.

Back when McCain was making similar comments, Andrew Sullivan explained why the entire Hamas attack is a mistake.

My response is simply that honorable campaigns do not allow foreign agents, especially terrorist organizations, to insert themselves into American presidential politics. No respectable foreign governments do such a thing; and the gambits of al Qaeda, Hamas, or any other grouping to play one candidate against another should in general be ignored, not exploited.

It is, of course, a perfectly legitimate campaign issue to fight over what US policy should be toward Hamas. Are there circumstances in which we should negotiate with them? How coherent is American foreign policy when it rests on a belief that democracy should spread in the Arab world, but refuses to recognize one of the very few governments that does have some democratic legitimacy? Are we right to see Hamas as an extension of Iranian power? Etc. But you can make these arguments and talk about these issues without resorting to canards such as “the terrorists want my opponent to win.” It’s a lame and cheap shot. And beneath McCain.

I’m not sure if it’s beneath Lieberman, but the sentiment clearly applies.

It’s not complicated: if terrorists try to intervene in a U.S. election, and exploit American political divisions, honorable people don’t legitimize their efforts. McCain and Lieberman used to understand that, but I’m afraid both have clearly lost their bearings together.

By the way, as long as we're talking about Lieberman, he was on CNN again this morning to talk about Iraq, and mentioned that Iraqis "obviously" do not want U.S. troops to stay in Iraq "forever." He added that McCain realizes this and it's reflected in his policy.

I guess it depends on the meaning of “forever,” doesn’t it? As far as McCain is concerned, U.S. troops should stay in Iraq to fight a war for the indefinite future. Once the war is over, McCain believes U.S. troops should then be prepared to stay in Iraq for 100 years, if not longer.

But McCain and Lieberman realize Iraqis don’t want us there “forever.” What a relief.


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Hamas-Obama but al-Qeda wants McCain..all the McCains they can get..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 12, 2008 4:21 PM   
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Hamas my favor Obama being president..from their perspective..

But al-Qaeda is praying for McCain to be elected as McCain is everything bin-Laden and Zawahiri dreams and hopes for..!

Some arrogant idiot that will inflame the Arab world with with further violence and invasions and attacks so as to radicalize and unite every Arab as none have done since the Russians in Afghanistan or Gordon when the English decided they had had enough of the good life and over expanded or tired to their Empire..!

Hamas-Obama

al-Qaeda-McCain..

An we get to choose, lucky us..!

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Fuck Joe Lieberman
Posted by: droscify on May 12, 2008 5:30 PM   
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to the good people of conneticut: please do not re-elect this asshole next time.

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Jewish leaders should Warn their Followers About LIEberman
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 12, 2008 7:33 PM   
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Joey boy is not just a Traitor to the Democratic party -he is apparently also willing to sell out his own religion. HE PRAISED HAGEE!!! The Sociopathic Christian Evangelical who Encourages War to begin 'Armegeddon' - thus leading the the Delusion of th e'Rapture' of the Chosen Christians. Only Jews who REJECT & CONVERT Will be 'Saved'!!!!And LIE bermann showers him with adoration for being a great man of God?
At least Judas had a part to play in the Resurrection- Joey must be a direct Descendant of Herod- How many Jewish Children's Blood will be on his hands (not to mention how many Non Jews blood)
The Jewish Leaders should Renounce this Heretic, just as those of Real Faith should be Renouncing, Rejecting and Refuting the Liek of Hagee, Parsley and the like
Why may Hamas feel positive about Obama- because they may be willing to lay down their Arms and finally have Peace in the Middle East.
I hold no ill Will Towards either the Jewish People nor the Palistinians- I do have Great disgust for both their 'Leaders' who fail to stop the violence which is killing their own people.If that is Not their Goal, then we need to step out of the madness for their agenda is not one Americans support- Philosophically and certainly not Economically or Militarily! Tehn it becomes Only Their peoples responsiblity to end FINALLY END IT!

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Obama serves neither master.
Posted by: Longdream on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM   
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If you read his remarks when he went to the Middle East, he had both kind and stern words for both Israel and the Palestinians, for the hardliners in the Israeli government and for Hamas.

He is an expert negotiator, and is laying the groundwork for a negotiated peace.

Joe Lieberman is a worthless, slobbering panderer. He's taken the position as McCain's hit man, probably hoping to get the Vice Presidential nod. I hope they do choose Lieberman, so that I can rest easy knowing that the Republican ticket is dead, embalmed and buried, and too rank even for the most forgiving of dogs to dig up.

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Lieberman--Friend or Enemy of the Israeli People?
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 12, 2008 11:49 PM   
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Joe Lieberman, the biggest mistake of Al Gore's life, thinks that Obama's potential for helping broker a stable peace between Israel and Palestine is a bad thing. He thinks that a state of incessant violence, poverty, polarization and hatred is preferable. With a friend like Lieberman, the Israeli people don't need any enemies.

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Turnabout is fair play
Posted by: drmflorida on May 13, 2008 5:29 AM   
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I wonder who the Aryan Nation prefers, McCain or Obama? How about Cuban exile terrorists? Who is the mafia rooting for? How about the Army of God? Which candidate is the favorite for Guantanamo interrogators? How about for the FLDS?

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The Aryan Nation
Posted by: indepentent on May 13, 2008 10:42 AM   
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supports McCain! Klu Klux Klan supports McCain.
Osma bin laden supports McCain. Hazzbala supports McCain.

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MOTIVE?
Posted by: spratling on May 13, 2008 11:44 AM   
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Lieberman's objective will be realized when he can position himself to push the US to invade Iran to protect his first love and allegiance: Israel. The man doesn't give a shit about the loss of American lives, or the drain on our economy. His political affiliation is nothing more than a venue to serve Israeli interests.

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yes why does Hama back Obama??
Posted by: Pennyhead on May 13, 2008 1:22 PM   
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I know that he has the same position as McCain but, why would Hamas want Obama as president and not McCain??? Here is something I found on YourThreeCents.com about Obama that is really interesting


Reality Check 4
May 12, 2008, 4:43 pm
Posted by Kozlo in Election2008


So, Barack "The Fascist" Obama wants to be president. Well, I'm here to tell all of you Big Government, terrorists loving, surrender in Iraq, Fascist Democrats that your selection is a bad one. For example, Barack Obama says he against sub-prime lenders and their practices while at the same time taking in 1.3 million in contributions from companies in that line of business. Barack Bitter Obama says that he would lead our efforts against terrorists and terrorism yet he is friends with William Ayers - a worthless terrorist. Hussein Obama says he is for a pro-growth agenda that will produce jobs yet he's a big protectionist at the bidding of his radical union buddies. He says he is for improving our educational system yet he is supports and is supported by the National Education Association. If you Dems think that Obama will bring you victory in November, you are badly mistaken. McCain will be victorious. See Ya Dumbocrats!

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Dead man walking
Posted by: frank69 on May 13, 2008 4:40 PM   
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John McCain.

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