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Steny Hoyer: FISA Deal "Still in Flux"

Posted by Digby, Hullabaloo at 5:28 AM on May 8, 2008.


The telecom companies are still trying to secure immunity for their illegal assistance in spying on Americans.
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Telecom companies have presented congressional Democrats with a set of proposals on how to provide immunity to the businesses that participated in a controversial government electronic surveillance program, a House Democratic aide said Wednesday.

Congress has been wrestling for months with an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, with the immunity issue the primary sticking point.

Many Democrats want the companies held accountable for participating in the program, which was initiated in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The White House, however, has insisted that the participation of the telecoms is crucial to monitoring conversations between potential terrorists. President Bush has vowed to veto any bill that does not contain immunity.

House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) said Wednesday a FISA deal is “still in flux” but he described the latest developments as “promising” and said he hoped to have a solution soon.

House officials declined to discuss the specifics of the proposed immunity language by the telecoms.

This is an piece of legislation which we can feel proud to have battled back since last August. But Bush wants this one very, very badly for some reason and he's going to push it right up until the day he leaves office. It's a zombie. And it's not just about money. These are huge corporations that can easily afford to litigate these claims and since it is unlikely that any of the plaintiffs suffered huge damages they don't face outrageous financial liability. They don't even face much bad PR: if they lose, they just say they were trying to help the government fight terrorists and there won't be a whole lot of customers who will switch to other carriers when they find out they violated the fourth amendment. This is about the Bush administration and keeping civil liberties lawyers from having access to discovery documents.

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We'll Grant immunity when they turn states Evidence!
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 8, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Until these Corps start singing and stop their mind numbing babble- let them feel the wrath from US- Turn away, Turn them OFF and deny them their livelihood.
The same media People control what is tapped ,covered and Ignored (covered up) until they start doing their jobs in the interst of the citizens of this country,We should refuse to feed them with Market shares and thus advertising Profits.
Turn states evidence against this administration undue influence over our Constitutional Rights & freedoms and all your well documented "exhibits" You are nothing more than co Conspirators. You have the Whistle NOW Start Blowing It!

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Last Chance
Posted by: QQOblivion on May 8, 2008 8:18 AM   
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Okay, have YOU written/called your Congressperson? Even if they are a "good" Democrat, don't assume that their opposition to Big Telecom immunity is in the bag. Too many congresspeople are whores for the money that comes from Big Telecom and other corrupt corporations.

Remember, it is necessary that telecom companies (who spied on YOU) not get their immunity -- this is the ABSOLUTE LAST chance for Americans to EVER find out the extent of Big Brother Bush's ILLEGAL domestic spying. If Big Telecom gets immunity, we will NEVER find out the truth!

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» RE: Last Chance Posted by: Wacre
Hoyer is a major disappointment
Posted by: truthteller on May 8, 2008 10:48 AM   
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I live in Mr. Hoyer's district. I find that he has been a major disappointment for progressives. He is a total tool of major lobbying interests and the Zionist Israeli lobby. Every time I check his official website, it does not show ANY public meetings or forums scheduled - and he commutes to the Capitol from suburban MD everyday. It's not like he has to fly cross-country to get to his district.

In '06 I voted for his Green Party opposition, and would expect to do so again. It's a real shame that the leadership of the party is so hostile to good progressive policies. We need to clean house and start over.

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The telecoms are represented by the best corporate legal minds
Posted by: surfreality on May 9, 2008 6:12 AM   
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money can buy.
They knew what they were doing.
Instead of honoring their contracts with their customers they chose to pander to a power grabbing POTUS with a flimsy legal "theory" called "unitary executive". They enabled said POTUS in his quest to sideline congress and the courts from any meaningful oversight of his illegal actions.
The telecoms knew what they were doing.
They were betting on the permanent republican majority. They figured if they played ball with POTUS now, good things would come their way later. Like a multi-tiered internet, and deregulated cable...
Now they want a Mulligan.
Now they say they were just being "patriotic".
Black is the new white and patriotic means subverting the Constitution. Welcome to Bushco and McCainecorps' USA. You may now resume shopping.

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