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Sex Sales

Posted by Claudine Zap, Huffington Post at 4:48 PM on May 1, 2008.


"I know that feminism had a cost, I just didn't realize I'd be paying for it every time I shopped."
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I am a proud third-generation Bloomingdale's customer and if I could move in or have my house re-decorated to match the black and white flooring, I would.

But even I have been keeping my distance from the department stores with the credit crisis (mine). Unless, of course, there's a sale. And I've noticed that not all sales are created equal.

While snapping up super-marked down cashmere sweaters at the pre-Christmas sale at Bloomie's earlier this season, my gal pal and I picked up on the sales gap right away: the men's sweaters were cheaper to begin with, and marked off even more. (That worked out well for my husband, not so much for me. I left the still quite expensive cashmere for myself on the rack. He got two.)

Another friend who was helping her BF shop noticed a similar patter at Macy's: menswear markdowns so low the silk and cashmere pullovers were practically cheaper than the lattes they picked up at Starbucks to fuel the spree. The women's department doesn't even have price tags that go down that low. Trust me, I've looked.

I have spent a large portion of my life finding good deals and become a seasoned shopper. It's a skill. My husband can design houses. I know how to shop. So why does he get all the benefits without any of the work?

OK, sure, I know I can find a $4 sweater at the bargain bin at Mervyn's, or drive to the middle of the desert to paw through off-season, deeply discounted threads from last year's "it" designer, or buy in bulk at H & M. But Macy's?

Maybe I don't have the right perspective. After all, in my mother's day, she wasn't allowed to wear pants -- and this was in high school. Maybe I should just feel lucky to get to choose whatever I want to wear, no matter the price. But is that what my sisters of the last generation fought for? Equality with a higher price tag? I know that feminism had a cost, I just didn't realize I'd be paying for it every time I shopped. Imagine pricing by sex for other necessities: What's next: men's and women's gas prices? His and her bar tabs?

With women making a whopping 77 cents to every man's dollar, we could really use some discounts as good as men's.

The discounts favoring men's clothing can't be due to less fabric, in fact, there's more. And the quality can't really be that different. A sweater is a sweater. I mean, it's not like they use different cashmere from the cheaper goat, right? No, I think the retailing industry has us women where they want us: Ready, willing and sort-of able to pay more.

Of course, without guidance, not all men can score the best deals. A co-worker confided in me that she was at Nordstrom the other day with her husband and a saleswoman helpfully pulled out an armload of shirts for him to try on. He seemed content until she eyed the price tag.

Over-priced shirt: $500. Loving wife who saves her man from being manhandled: priceless.

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The usual huffcrap
Posted by: wagadog on May 1, 2008 5:13 PM   
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How can the 'politics' section of HuffPo be so good, and yet the rest of it be such crap?

Even the commentators -- on political matters -- are usually pretty good.

But the 'Living' section is just chock full of gender stereotyping, as is the 'Business' section. For example, an article on women CEOs will be in the 'Living' section and be just a crap reprint straight out of the MSM, loaded with unsubstantiated gender stereotyping that goes completely unquestioned. And then they'll have an article about who's snogging who in the latest California BubbleCorp -- which makes the business section. Again, full of "praise the dominant male" gender stereotyping.

This particular article doesn't even warrant comment.

The best deals on designer threads are in StV de P and the Sallies in rich neighborhoods -- rich bitches like the author only wear stuff once, so why not. I can't figure out what she's complaining about. If she had to earn the money she was spending at the shops, she would just plain STOP SHOPPING.

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» RE: The usual huffcrap - Bam Posted by: wolfgangmo75
What has happened to this site?
Posted by: 23skidoo on May 1, 2008 5:32 PM   
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This article is beyond absurd.

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Perhaps "marketing experts" know something the author refuses to admit?
Posted by: JimmyVaughan on May 1, 2008 5:37 PM   
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Perhaps "marketing experts" know something the author refuses to admit?

Many women, on a annual basis, change their wardrobe entirely.

Men, on the other hand, typically don't consider an article of clothing wearable until the 20th cycle through the washer and dryer and, as a result, will wear clothes until they begin to fall apart.

Perhaps the clothing store's "marketing experts" see a greater potential for profit growth on the women's side of the equation?

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The way my wife explains it:
Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 1, 2008 6:27 PM   
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...dude's clothes stay on the rack longer, on average, because we aren't drawn to these stores like credit-card wielding moths to a Chinese bug zapper. The longer an item is on the rack, the cheaper it gets, because shirts don't pay rent for their home inside a store.

That's not a penalty; that's banking on the willing gullibility of the average American mall-bound consumer, to be unable to leave something with a "SALE" sign on the rack. It's a damn profitable bet, by the way.

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My wife works in an office and dresses really well
Posted by: UnEasyOne on May 1, 2008 7:01 PM   
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At least once a year, she donates a bunch of clothes.

When we were first married, I was afraid this was gonna keep us broke - forever. I was a poor kid and had to go to schools where virtually everybody had much better clothes than me - so I was sympathetic.

Her background was upper middle class - her mother's idea of a "fantastic bargain" was picking up that $500 coat at 40% off - so I was concerned. I didn't want her dressing in rags - but we were poor ourselves (her folks cut her off completely when she married me - even keeping all her winter clothes - so she needed everything.)

I introduced her to garage sales and thrift stores - and that was the end of my worries. She keeps in shape by biking all around the neighborhood and spends 10 - 20 bucks a week - most of that on jewelry.

She has to do some work on some of the clothes and has become adept at hand alterations.

If the major stores are ripping you off, there are plenty of alternatives.

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» Very thoughtful Posted by: lefty010
Fail thread fails horribly
Posted by: Love Me, I'm a Liberal on May 2, 2008 9:16 AM   
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Maybe this is a joke article? If not then get real.

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what can you do to a shirt,
Posted by: bitsfick on May 2, 2008 11:14 AM   
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to make it worth $500.00? especially when you consider that it is made in some third world country with child labor.

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Before you buy anything more (besides food) u should read this
Posted by: Landbaron on May 2, 2008 12:07 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

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Hows this...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 2, 2008 12:16 PM   
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.. oru clothes are cheaper and marked down more because quite simply the vast majority of us won't pay a lot of money for our clothes in the first place.

Take, for example, the way the author speaks about Bloomingdales. I am more okay with shopping than most guys.. and I still don't feel anything like that for any store of any kind.

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Puleeeze!!!
Posted by: lefty010 on May 2, 2008 12:55 PM   
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I know this is redundant, but please Alternet, will you consider more carefully what you post here? I love Alternet BECAUSE I do not have to wade through shit like this to get to something relevant, intelligent and meaningful.

I am female BTW and think this article is atrocious.

I hope the author recovers from such a hideous experience. I REALLY can't imaging anything worse going on in the world.

***HUGE, GIANT EYEROLL HERE***

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» Just a thought... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Just a thought... Posted by: daniel347x
» RE: Just a thought... Posted by: lefty010
BLOOMIE GIRL, I FEEL YOUR PAIN
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 2, 2008 2:22 PM   
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Get a life, lady! ANNA

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UGH...
Posted by: studiosus on May 5, 2008 9:33 AM   
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I can't even begin to express my dismay at the banality of this superficial essay. It's inane on so many levels. I'm sorry I wasted my time reading it.

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