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Growing Meat Without Animals?

Posted by PZ Myers, Pharyngula at 6:18 AM on April 17, 2008.


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Revere is thinking about how to grow meat without the animal. It's a cool idea that's been floating around in science fiction for a while now, but, well, of course it has problems, and Revere notes a couple.

The two biggest, as far as I can see from a quick perusal of the burgeoning literature, are finding a suitable nutrient to grow the cells in; and then growing tissue that has the proper texture for being a meat substitute. Animal meat is not just muscle cells but a complicated structure also containing connective tissue, blood and blood vessels, nerves and fat. Just growing up masses of identical cells isn't sufficient. You have to reproduce an architecture.

I see those two problems as aspects of one much bigger problem. Muscle doesn't grow in isolation: it's always in a solid environmental context. It's made up of cells that respond to activity in a way that enhances performance for the organism, and incidentally promotes flavor and texture and bulk for the delectation of the carnivore. So what do you need to make edible muscle mass, beyond a sheet of myocytes in a culture dish (which, I suspect, would have the texture of slime and would not sell well in test markets)?

An architecture is right. You need connective tissue to form a framework and you need a rigid but motile structure to do work and exercise the growing muscle. Then, because you want a piece of muscle larger than a drop, you need a delivery system for nutrients: a circulatory system, with a pump. This muscle in a vat is going to need a skeleton and a heart.

When I teach physiology, one of the organs I emphasize is the liver. It's amazing how important a liver is to just about everything: growth, digestion, physical performance, reproduction, the whole shebang. Our cultured muscle will need a liver equivalent to support it. Even if we get rid of the digestive system entirely and feed this muscle mass on delivered supplies of pure glucose, amino acids, and various cofactors and enzymes, the liver is a primary regulatory agent for those substances.

Then we need an immune system. A huge lump of cells growing in a bath of sugar and amino acids is bacterial heaven — it's going to need major antibacterial/antiviral support.

The more I think about it, the more I think people are going at it backwards. We shouldn't be thinking about building muscle from the cells up, to create a purified system to produce meat for the market, we should be going the other way, starting with self-sustaining meat producers and genetically paring away the less commercially viable bits, like the brain. Instead of test-tube meat, we should be working on more efficient organisms that generate muscle tissue with the properties we want.

Guess what? Farmers have already been doing this! Look at the domestic cow and chicken and turkey: they're far more brainless than their wild relatives, and have been reduced to as much stupidity and helplessness as possible, without compromising their ability to survive semi-autonomously and harvest nutrients from naturally occurring food sources. I don't see all that much difference in the consequences between building up a functional meat producer from cells in a dish, and stripping down a functional meat producer from a line of domesticated animals. Both starting points are aiming at the same final result; I suspect that the top down procedure is more likely to achieve success in my lifetime.

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Tagged as: animal rights, science, environment

PZ Myers is a biologist and associate professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris. He runs the science blog, Pharyngula.


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Posted by: Wacre on Apr 17, 2008 7:33 AM   
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the method PZ Myers describes is actually 'palatable' (I personally don't eat red meat just because there's too much experimentation–and too many drugs and hormones involved. There's also the fact–and some may think that this is silly–but when you have an animal that is essentially imprisoned its entire life, and exists in a constant state of anxiety and fear, and you eat that animal, you are ingesting everything about that animal, including it's fear and pain as well) but it makes me wonder why more meat producers can't follow the free-range model.

That way I would know what I ate wasn't–essentially–tortured its entire life because, in and of itself, I have nothing against eating a animal.

Properly prepared, of course.

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This is what we are spending time and money on...
Posted by: aogfc on Apr 17, 2008 8:55 AM   
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really? just go vegetarian for ****'s sake. this is a sickness that we as a people are going out of our way for "meat".
if we are trying to feed hungry people I get it.. but if we are just trying to feel better about our diets... instead of just changing them... then I see a problem...
but fair enough do what you will, believe what you want... seems like we will find every way possible to justify our own self destruction...

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Anencephic Cows
Posted by: witchjug on Apr 17, 2008 9:12 AM   
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Anencephaly is a birth defect in which a fetus is born with no brain (sub-brain intact). The genes for this condition are already identified. The trick would be to overcome the fact anencephalic fetus' are almost always still born. Other than that . . . no brain no pain. And BTW MIT grad students were able to 'grow' fish muscle (with the similar structure to the real thing) in nutrient solution as part of research into sustainable food sources for extened space travel. I like eating meat.

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Well, they better f-ing step on it!
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Apr 17, 2008 9:24 AM   
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After all... its all we will have once industrial society has despoiled all of the environment and made it uninhabitable for any actual animals... to underwrite technology.. such as that required for developing animal-free meat.

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A Simpler (and less gross) Solution
Posted by: QQOblivion on Apr 17, 2008 9:53 AM   
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This all seems like a lot of trouble just to get real meat. The easier solution, if we still desire to feel like carnivores, is to produce realistic vegetable-based meat substitute. Also, this is less gross than animal-less meat, let alone less gross than animal-based meat.

As of today there are a variety of different brands of fake meat, all with a different amount of realism when it comes to tasting like meat. (I prefer some brands of fake meat to the real thing, actually.) I am sure that in the future meat substitutes will appear even more real. And if the vegetable-based stuff can be made and sold much cheaper than real meat, many more people might go vegetarian.

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