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The Pope May Not Want Donohue's Defenses

Posted by Clif, Sadly, No! at 4:59 AM on April 16, 2008.


Clif exposes Bill Donohue of the Catholic League's inept nonsensical rantings.
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Well, the pope and his little pope-mobile are coming here to DC and, good gay abortionists that we are, we would be doing our reputation a disservice if we didn’t post something about the pope in honor of the historic visit. And, thankfully, Billy Donohue, the head of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights for Straight White Geriatric Male Catholics and Blastocysts, has been happy to oblige us with some material. Bill Maher said some naughty things about the pope and Donohue hasn’t gotten so worked about anything since some sculptor did an anatomically correct Jesus with dark, rather than white, chocolate. And the best thing about a Billy tantrum is that he totally unmoors himself from truth and reality, says pretty much whatever pops into his medieval brain, declares that the truth and then accuses the other side of lying.

So, of course, Bill Donohue titles his reply piece “Maher Lies About the Pope.” Let’s see who’s lying, shall we?

Maher’s obsession with the Catholic Church continues, only this time there isn’t enough material for him to use as a club, so he literally makes things up. His lies include the following statement: ‘When the—when the current pope was in his previous Vatican job as John Paul’s Dick Cheney—he wrote a letter instructing every Catholic bishop to keep the sex abuse of minors secret until the statute of limitations ran out.’

A similar lie was floated by an angry ex-Catholic bigot, Rosie O’Donnell.

Boy, this must be serious if Donahue pulls out the Defense League’s super powerful death-ray gun — “Rosie said it! It has to be false!!”

The fact is that before he was named pope, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger had absolutely nothing to do with policing allegations of sexual abuse until 2002, after the scandal erupted that January. And he certainly never counseled bishops to keep sexual abuse secret—this is a bald face lie.

“The fact is”? Have we discovered the true identity of Gary Ruppert? And you know when something starts with “the fact is” it usually isn’t, and Donahue here is telling a teeny little fib. Well, actually it’s a basilica-sized whopper. Before saying Ratzi never counseled bishops to keep sexual abuse secret, Donahue should have made sure that there were no inconvenient letters floating around. Like, say, this one:

Pope Benedict XVI faced claims last night he had ‘obstructed justice’ after it emerged he issued an order ensuring the church’s investigations into child sex abuse claims be carried out in secret.

The order was made in a confidential letter, obtained by The Observer, which was sent to every Catholic bishop in May 2001.

It asserted the church’s right to hold its inquiries behind closed doors and keep the evidence confidential for up to 10 years after the victims reached adulthood. The letter was signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who was elected as John Paul II’s successor last week. …

It orders that ‘preliminary investigations’ into any claims of abuse should be sent to Ratzinger’s office, which has the option of referring them back to private tribunals in which the ‘functions of judge, promoter of justice, notary and legal representative can validly be performed for these cases only by priests’.

‘Cases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secret,’ Ratzinger’s letter concludes. Breaching the pontifical secret at any time while the 10-year jurisdiction order is operating carries penalties, including the threat of excommunication.

Oops.

Indeed, a week before Pope John Paul II died, [Cardinal Ratzinger] addressed the scandal by saying, ‘How much filth there is in the church, even among those who, in the priesthood, should belong entirely’ to God.

At which point all pedophile priests were immediately turned over to the authorities, the Catholic Church made amends to every single altar boy ever dandled by a priest, and the whole scandal instantly vanished, which never would have happened if Ratzinger hadn’t made that comment.

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Clif is a blogger for Sadly No!


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Not until.......
Posted by: reval on Apr 16, 2008 6:13 AM   
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.....the last brick, from the last church, falls on the empty skull of the last pope will humankind be free. And may that brick, after falling on the pope's head, ricochet directly over to the empty skull of Master Dumb D. and perform its heavenly work.
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» RE: Not until....... Posted by: saltoafronteira
And people wonder why I hate organized religion.
Posted by: chuckjs on Apr 16, 2008 6:19 AM   
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Born and raised a Roman Catholic! Diddled by priests at a very young age over many years(circa 1966 to 1977). And the people I trusted to help me actually did me a harm by covering up the crimes committed against me. Then they elect the same man responsible for this cover-up as the head of their organized religion and try to convince me that this "Pope" is the "MAN" on earth speaking on behalf of "God". What a joke and silly circular logic. And people want me to be foolish enough to trust and believe these people again. Not in this lifetime. The guilty got away whith what they did to me and in return they promoted the man who protected them!

Organized religion, which as a child was forced upon me "without choice", has caused me a lifetime of mental health issues. All this is being paid for by myself or those who care for me(ie. health insurer or government where I live, family, etc.). But I don't see the great Catholic Church stepping up to take responsibility for the damage they have done. only knows why these people are teaching responsibility while publically displaying and averssion to taking responsibility.

Then there is the damage that the church caused, to itself, by alienating other church members after the fact. My family WERE devote Roman Catolics. Now only one member of my family goes to church and even that person has a hard time beilieving the church now. They just have a harder time coming to terms with their beliefs being turned upside down.

I am so confused after spending a childhood being taught that GAY was bad by these priests only to have them be GAY all over me. They actually tried to teach me it was OK to be this way so long as you kept it hidden. My current personal opinion is that there is nothing wrong with being gay. Thanks to my former preists for giving me that open-mindedness. But that is about the only good that came out of the years of torture. OH! sorry that is not torture because it only caused mental harm and not anything actually physical. Sorry for the sarcasm I just couldn't resist.

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It is so sad that Cardinal Law
Posted by: paula.c on Apr 16, 2008 8:29 AM   
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of Massachsetts was gently removed from his position here in Boston and given a beautiful office at the Vatican after all the long years of harm. When a priest here was found to be sexually abusing young boys, the priest was then given another pulpit here in the state. It is reported that some priests were "moved" several times.

If my son was ever abused in that way I would demand that Cardinal Law and Cardinal Ratzinger be defrocked not promoted. If priests could marry, this would not happen. Maybe the new Ratzinger/Benedict Pope could influence a dramatic change such as marriage for all, inluding nuns.

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» Actually, it DOES Posted by: BobbieT
» RE: Actually, it DOES Posted by: bitsfick
All religions are derivative, superstitious, power and control driven
Posted by: thekidde on Apr 16, 2008 9:18 AM   
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crap. Popes throughout history have mainly been slavering, power hungry wingnuts who preach out of one side of their mouths and perform hypocrisy out of the other. Catholics and Muslims have become the worst because of their numbers and hierarchical nature, but all proselytizers are hypocrits, liars, pederasts, misogyinists or all of the above - mostly for power, glory and $$$$$$$.

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What a waste of a persons time
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Apr 16, 2008 7:13 PM   
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Why in the world do these foolish people run around and worship this blasphemous Pope run religion. You my as well have Bill Oreilly running the Catholic church.

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So All the Accused were undoubtedly guilty
Posted by: riotoustanpdx on Apr 17, 2008 4:29 PM   
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There is a common practice in America today: Accuse the Other of a heinous act in a divorce custody battle so One has the advantage. False accusations, though, never happened in the case of the Church scandal: every accused priest was exceedingly guilty, and NO ONE made false claims in order to pocket some cash!

Could it be that the investigations in secret were intended to protect the innocent, be they few or many, from the condemnation that appears here?

Could it be that any person falsely accused would want the same thing, a bit of privacy until the facts are sorted out?

Crimes were committed, this is proven. And guilty priests were protected.

At least one accused priest committed suicide before he was exonerated by the facts, and the admission of a remorseful accuser.

It is far easier to condemn all people and things we do not understand, such as organized religion, than it is to separate the valuable from the worthless, or the good from evil.

Millions practice organized religion because it helps strengthen one's resolve to become a better person. Tens of millions strive to rise above bitterness and hatred, anger and despair, through an organized religion and the sense of community, the sense of not being alone in this effort to become whole.

Those who are the most bitter about organized religion are often those who need its solace most of all.

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My favorite...
Posted by: Cath on Apr 19, 2008 8:17 AM   
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...O'Donahue quote was from an interview on the Today show with Matt Lauer some years ago.

On the topic of hitting back at perceived enemies of the Church, Matt asked Mr. O'Donahue about the injunction to 'turn the other cheek," and Mr. O'Donahue shot back..."That's a fool's proposition."

I'm sure Mr. O'D. will have some 'splainin' to do when Jesus sets him down for his exit interview from this life.

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