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Is U.S. Torture Policy an Extension of the Bush Cabal's Psycho-Sexual Drama?

Posted by Jill Hussein C., Brilliant at Breakfast at 8:00 AM on April 12, 2008.


Can you imagine just how sick and twisted these conversations must have been?

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Picture yourself in the same room as this:

As first reported by ABC News Wednesday, the most senior Bush administration officials repeatedly discussed and approved specific details of exactly how high-value al Qaeda suspects would be interrogated by the CIA.

The high-level discussions about these "enhanced interrogation techniques" were so detailed, these sources said, some of the interrogation sessions were almost choreographed -- down to the number of times CIA agents could use a specific tactic.

At the time, the Principals Committee included Vice President Dick Cheney, former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, as well as CIA Director George Tenet and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

[snip]

As the national security adviser, Rice chaired the meetings, which took place in the White House Situation Room and were typically attended by most of the principals or their deputies.

The so-called Principals who participated in the meetings also approved the use of "combined" interrogation techniques -- using different techniques during interrogations instead of using one method at a time -- on terrorist suspects who proved difficult to break, sources said.

[snip]

In his interview with ABC News, Bush said the ABC report about the Principals' involvement was not so "startling." The president had earlier confirmed the existence of the interrogation program run by the CIA in a speech in 2006. But before Wednesday's report, the extraordinary level of involvement by the most senior advisers in repeatedly approving specific interrogation plans -- down to the number of times the CIA could use a certain tactic on a specific al Qaeda prisoner -- had never been disclosed.

Think about it -- a president who used to shove firecrackers up the asses of frogs and light them to watch the frogs explode. A vice-president who shot a friend in the face. A female Secretary of State in fuck-me boots who gets off on torture. An attorney general who's afraid of calico cats, offended by a statue's breasts, and anoints himself with vegetable oil. And he's the SANE one, the one who was troubled by the whole proceeding.

The picture of this bunch of perverts and psychopaths talking intricately about methods of torture sort of reminds you of the mactors and implantresses of Survivor Micronesia talking about pizza, doesn't it? Or of that scene from Fatso in which Dom DeLuise talks about sucking the jelly out of a jelly donut and filling it full of -- I forget what -- and baking it again. Or of these guys talking about sex:

I don't know about you, just thinking about that conversation in the White House Situation Room gives me the willies. Whoever occupies the White House next had better fumigate it.

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ALWAYS ASK WHY !
Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Apr 12, 2008 10:18 AM   
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Why? Because they ARE sick and twisted human beings who can find sick and twisted reasons to justify their sick and twisted actions that THEY GET OFF ON: HURTING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. I have often remarked to colleagues that the sex in the White (Black) House must be great these days. One can only IMAGINE Bush and Laura, Donnie and his wife, Cheney and Lynn ... and Condoleeza and ("my husband") Bush, and the meanest closet gay in our nation, Karl Rove and Jeff Gannon.

I applaud Jill Hussein and anyone else who explains these perverted, sadistic sub-human beings actions IN TERMS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE.

The BLOOD must be washed from the steps of OUR White House with IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT, PROSECUTION AND PRISON OF BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, ROVE, RUMSFELD, MEYERS, ASHCROFT, AND ALL THEIR MINIONS... and then the House and Senate must be purged of all the 'GOOD GERMANS" who have both conspired with Bush/Cheney, enabled this horror, or TURNED AWAY THEIR EYES IN DENIAL AS THE DEMOCRATS AND MANY REPUBLICANS HAVE.

NEVER AGAIN! WRITE THEIR CRIMES INTO HISTORY!!! IMPEACH NOW!!!

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jail
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Apr 12, 2008 12:27 PM   
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is where they all belong

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» jail Posted by: Cathyc
This must be what Alberto Gonzales was talking about
Posted by: Quannah on Apr 12, 2008 6:40 PM   
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in the hearings when he wouldn't give a straight answer about who authorized torture.

Does anyone else have any recollection about this? (My memory is overloaded in the scandal department... I can't keep it all straight anymore!)

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Take it from a Missouri boy, Ashcroft doesn't know his own religion
Posted by: Chaos Motor on Apr 13, 2008 4:27 PM   
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"and anoints himself with vegetable oil. And he's the SANE one"

What's funny is that his "anointing oil" wasn't originally vegetable oil, but used to be made with cannabis oil - yes, the same cannabis that two million nonviolent persons are rotting in jail for this very day.

http://www.judaic.com/judaica/anointing-oil.html

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Now, look.
Posted by: Longdream on Apr 13, 2008 8:43 PM   
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Psycho is a word I'll tolerate in the same sentence with these guys, but sexual?

*vomits*

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Why torture and Kangaroo courts
Posted by: John Edward on Apr 14, 2008 1:36 AM   
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A guest on the Daily Show said it best. "Torture falls into the realm of the lazy, the stupid and the pseudo tough." I would add that it is something that mean spirited people do simply because they can. The American way would have been to capture bin Ladin and then try him in open court with a spirited defense, like that of the British soldiers who were defended successfully for the Boston Massacre by future President Adams.

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these aren't the only ones
Posted by: annekarina on Apr 14, 2008 3:27 AM   
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I recall a book of fiction I read once that described a favorite sexual trick of JFK's. Since he had so much physically wrong with him - Addison's disease, a bad back - common sense tells one all the sex rumors had to be that - rumors. But he did manage something that sounded rather like waterboarding to get his kicks. At least according to this book written under the guise of fiction.

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» RE: these aren't the only ones Posted by: Longdream
m.tunney
Posted by: m.tunney on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 AM   
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One big question remains. If the meeting was in the White House I would like to know where our Pres was at the times that these meetings took place. Was he in the Oval Office or in Crawford per chance interacting with the Situation Room Conference of his top advisors?
The only person, missing at the table is the Boss. Who else but he would be able to get these dignitaries to abase themselves by discussing the - after the first 24hr hours of their capture - useless physical torture of helpless people inside the White House of all places?
If one replaces the words White House with the Vatican then everyone would immediately point the finger at the Pope. Why does nobody consider the implications that the Boss did more then just sign the instructions to torture and that he possibly played a larger role than is being acknowledged by anyone.
Maybe somebody ought to light a fire under the participants in this Conference to see if there is a squealer in the pack.
Why would so many important players in this adminsitration waste their time to chase global gangs when they could be tending to the larger picture by telling the various Governments to clean up their streets so to speak. We have this mighty military power and instead of using it as the 'stick behind the door' we squander it by wasting our energy looking for a bunch of rogue elements.
We ought to tell this president to stop using the Power of the Presidency for a fly swat so that some of his buddies in the Situation Room can indulge their hobbies and fantasies by going on useless cat and mouse chases around the world looking for new vicitims.
We have come a long way since JFK. Unfortunately we're going in the opposite direction. Will somebody please find us the Compass?

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Disgusted and Ashamed
Posted by: GriGri on Apr 14, 2008 3:34 PM   
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As a victim and survivor of torture, I can state with confidence that there is little if anything one will not say or do to make it stop. Although I am not wont to generalize from an n of 1, there are numerous studies that bear out this assertion. Torture is not a reliable method for extracting useful or truthful information. That being said...

These nonhuman demagogues, nonhuman in the sense that they lack the basic ethical compass that guides most humans from a conscience that screams out against such acts, are playing god with the lives of people. How are we to respond? What can we, as ordinary Americans, do? I have written letters, sent email, made phone calls, attended protests and rallies, but it all seems for naught.

The victims of so-called enhanced interrogation will carry the scars on their bodies and/or psyches for the rest of their lives; I know I have. If there is a true genius of humanitarianism in our world today capable of providing the answer(s) to this tragedy, I implore you, step forward now, and tell us what we must do. I will walk a thousand miles to the ocean and make salt in defiance of tyranny, weave my own cloth, suffer the enemies blows. I will rise up and water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants, sacrifice my life, fight until the last remnants of strength ebb from my body.

We have heard ad nauseam that the Emperor has no clothes. The question facing us now is what can we do about it. Non-violent active resistance, open rebellion, or whatever:

What can we do about it!

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Anybody here
Posted by: willymack on Apr 14, 2008 5:41 PM   
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Watch Bill Maher Friday night? He described the discussion on torture by the bushie gang and watching footage of the different techniques while cheney was vigorusly masturbating. Of course he told it much better, and it may not have been too far off the mark.

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YES, it is
Posted by: Morgaine Swann on Apr 14, 2008 3:35 AM   
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This whole thing is about Karl Rove's twisted fascination with a sociopath named George Bush. It's why they know no boundaries. It's why they make such a show of hating gays. It's why George likes to play dress up as a cowboy or a pilot. It's why they don't give a rats ass who gets killed as long as they're making money. It's why we still don't know who authorized Jeff Gannon's attendance the the press briefings. Any feelings they have are twisted by the usual repression of evangelicism combined with self-loathing of their homosexual urges.

Dick Cheney kills harmless and crippled little animals for fun. We know George loved to torture and kill frogs. James Baker, the guy who stole the election for Bush, was sitting in a hotel room with the Bin Laden family watching the Twin Towers fall on TV. George's grandfather made their money doing business with the Nazis and his daddy ran the CIA. We're seven years into a bloodless coup, and I'm just praying Obama is the candidate in the hopes that they'll be too scared of an uprising to try and steal this one, too.

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YES, it is
Posted by: Morgaine Swann on Apr 14, 2008 3:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This whole thing is about Karl Rove's twisted fascination with a sociopath named George Bush. It's why they know no boundaries. It's why they make such a show of hating gays. It's why George likes to play dress up as a cowboy or a pilot. It's why they don't give a rats ass who gets killed as long as they're making money. It's why we still don't know who authorized Jeff Gannon's attendance the the press briefings. Any feelings they have are twisted by the usual repression of evangelicism combined with self-loathing of their homosexual urges.

Dick Cheney kills harmless and crippled little animals for fun. We know George loved to torture and kill frogs. James Baker, the guy who stole the election for Bush, was sitting in a hotel room with the Bin Laden family watching the Twin Towers fall on TV. George's grandfather made their money doing business with the Nazis and his daddy ran the CIA. We're seven years into a bloodless coup, and I'm just praying Obama is the candidate in the hopes that they'll be too scared of an uprising to try and steal this one, too.

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