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Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westhusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself

Posted by Melina Ripcoco, Brilliant at Breakfast at 4:00 AM on April 8, 2008.


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Ted Westhusing, was a champion basketball player at Jenks High School in Tulsa Oklahoma. A driven kid with a strong work ethic, he would show up at the gym at 7AM to throw 100 practice shots before school. He was driven academically too, becoming a National Merritt Scholarship finalist. His career through West Point and straight into overseas service was sterling, and by 2000 he had enrolled in Emory University to earn his doctorate in Philosophy. His dissertation was on honor and the ethics of war, with the opening containing the following passage: "Born to be a warrior, I desire these answers not just for philosophical reasons, but for self-knowledge." Would that all military commanders took such an interest in the study of ethics and morality and what our conduct in times of war says about our development as human beings. Would that any educational system in this country taught ethics, decision making, or even political science that's not part of an advanced degree anymore.

Ted Westhusing, the soldier, philosopher and ethicist, was given a guaranteed lifetime teaching position and West Point by the time he had finished with his service and his education. he felt like he could do more for his country by trying to shape the minds coming out of the academy that were the ones that would be military commanders. He had settled into that life with his wife and kids, when in 2004 he volunteered for active duty in Iraq, feeling like the experience would help his teaching. He had missed combat in his active duty and it seemed like an important piece for someone who not only philosophized about war, but who was also preparing the military's future leaders.

But more than that, he was sure that the Iraq mission was a just one; he supported the cause and he bought the information that was put in front of him. Considering that vials of powder were being tossed around hearings by the highest level of military commanders how could he not? This was a man who was so steeped in the patriotism of idealistic military fervor that he barely could fit in regular society. His whole being was dedicated to this path, and he was proud to serve his country.

Once in Iraq, he found himself straddling the fence between a questioning philosopher and an unquestioning soldier. Westhusing had thought he was freeing a country in bondage, keeping America safe from a horrible threat, and spreading democracy to a grateful people. But the reality of what was happening in this out of control war was too much for him. His mission was to oversee one of the most important tasks left from the war; retraining the Iraqi military by overseeing the private contractors that had been put in charge of it.

As the assignment went on he found that everywhere he looked he was seeing corrupt contractors doing shoddy work, abusing people, and stealing from the government. These contractors were being paid to do many of the jobs that would normally be done by a regulated military, and they bore out the worst fears of those who don't believe in outsourcing such vital work. He responded to the corruption that he saw by reporting the problems up the line, but the response from his commanding officers was disappointing. He had, for much of his career, idolized military commanders, and in that assignment he found himself with some of the military's most famous faces, doing the most important job, but he was terribly disappointed and alarmed to realize that they were greedy and corrupt themselves.

The wall of silence about this was impenetrable and the reality of the situation turned his entire belief system upside down, making him question everything that was going on, and his role in it. Having envisioned the top military commanders to be the most honorable that America has to offer, he was crushed to find out that ascending to power in this military could be more due to cronyism than expertise and that these men who he had aspired to be like were greedy and corrupt themselves. Upon reporting to his commanding officers, he realized that not only did the problems stretch to the level above him, but that they were systemic.
To these commanders the only real problem was the fact that they had a deeply honorable soldier in their command that was likely to rock the cash cow. Westhusing was so bereft at the realization of his part in this breakdown in the military's code of conduct, and the atrocities carried out in America's name, that he became despondent and finally in June, 2005, he shot himself. It was called a suicide, though there have been some questions raised about it.

He's not the first Iraq suicide, though he was, at the time of his death, the highest ranking one. He was an oddity; a thinking soldier in a war that requires blind obedience, and unwavering dedication. The black and white world of Bush's military doesn't allow much for the grays that come into the picture when one is, at heart, a philosopher...and even in the face of seeing the reality of war, how can anyone come to terms with the revelation of corruption on this scale? More crushing was the realization that the leaders that he idolized, and the honor that he held as being the very foundation of his entire world as a military officer, were all a lie, and stories told to cadets at West Point that didn't bear out in reality. The leaders in this war didn't care, and many were, as he outlined in his 4 page suicide letter, that was addressed to General's Fil and Petraeus, his direct commanders, only out for their own selfish enrichment.

Thanks for telling me it was a good day until I briefed you. [Redacted name]--You are only interested in your career and provide no support to your staff--no msn [mission] support and you don't care. I cannot support a msn that leads to corruption, human right abuses and liars. I am sullied--no more. I didn't volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves. I came to serve honorably and feel dishonored. I trust no Iraqi. I cannot live this way. All my love to my family, my wife and my precious children. I love you and trust you only. Death before being dishonored any more. Trust is essential--I don't know who trust anymore. [sic] Why serve when you cannot accomplish the mission, when you no longer believe in the cause, when your every effort and breath to succeed meets with lies, lack of support, and selfishness? No more. Reevaluate yourselves, cdrs [commanders]. You are not what you think you are and I know it.
COL Ted Westhusing
Life needs trust. Trust is no more for me here in Iraq.
What troubled Westhusing was not just the death and destruction all around him, the obvious looting of the country, and the human rights abuses, but the seeming lack of attention to the problem by his two of commanding officers, General Joseph Fil, and General David Petraeus. Yes, that David Petraeus. So focused was he on the destructive role of these two, that his suicide note was written to them. Westhusing's widow said that her husband's death should serve to bring out the truth of the corruption that her husband saw. Author and journalist, Robert Bryce was recently able to get documentation of interviews with Westhusing's wife and many other bits of correspondence and Investigation documents through the freedom of information act. They leave more questions open than they answer, especially in light of the media's blackout on information about Petraeus' part in this...even during a week that he is center stage at hearings being conducted on the war.

The book Blood Money, by T. Christian Miller, relates in depth, the deep convictions of Westhusing, and his drive towards a sort of noble honor and how that ended with his death. His favorite saying was by Socrates from Plato's Phaedo: "Those philosophizing rightly are practicing to die." It's more than a little disconcerting to find that he had acted detached and despondent for days or weeks before he committed suicide, often standing around looking at his gun closely and lost in thought, not paying attention to what was happening. In a war where there are a record number of cases of suicide and PTSD, is there no awareness training of the trouble signs going on? He exhibited all of the signs of depression and despondency, and it's a mystery why no one stepped up and tried to help him. But this is the culture of the military, and this is probably what worked out better for his commanding officers, who were no doubt looking at a loose canon who was raining on their good deal out there in the desert. Was there more to Westhusing's death? There is quite a lot of speculation out there that something was amiss at the death scene, and about who found him, (a contractor who reportedly tampered with the scene,) and that things don't add up exactly.

General Petraeus is appearing before congress this week to try to defend his "surge" and to stop any further troop withdrawals. He is also making the case for an additional 100 billion dollars.

The surge is not working, no matter how it's spun. If we keep combat troops in Iraq there could arguably be a reduction of violence, depending on many factors, but if its actually "working," as in helping Iraq to be more self sufficient and to end our participation in the problems there?...well, that depends on your definition of "working."

The fact that Petraeus has a long history of being wrong in his assessments of Iraq, and the fact that when directly questioned about current violence, he tends to defer blame to Iran, aside, at some point you have to question how much Petraeus' risen star and earning potential is tied to this war and its continuation. To say that this administration is in any way even a little translucent is laughable. Never has there been such an almost psychotic grab for all encompassing power with no body overseeing the actions of a few in power. Never has there been an attitude that the executive is above the law and the need to somehow document that for some sort of long range plan.

At some point the level of spending and loss of funds is so incredible that we must be compelled look at management, even if it's unseemly in a time of war. At some point the American people have to demand an accounting. You would think that America had never run a war before. Surely it must be embarrassing when the top military officer has to get up in front of congress and try to explain some very small incremental improvement at such a huge cost. These improvements can also be easily explained away by so many factors, such as payments to a certain faction to stand down, ethnic cleansing having actually worked, and just the fact that more troops might put off the inevitable civil war that will happen now or in 20 years once the US security forces are pulled out. None of that speaks to a lasting improvement or even a partial repair of what we've done there.

A lot of this is common sense, and the fact that all Americans want so badly to feel like we've won, or that this was a just cause and not just some construct of Imperialism and the oil wars...much less, plans that happened in some conference rooms above the rule of law and our governmental checks and balances...well, we may be just caught in a nightmare here and waking up is not an option for those in power. We must realize that at some point we're doing more harm than good, and that may involve admitting that we are not necessarily on the side of right. But that's the rub here, and that's where we get back to Westhusing; any action in life comes with the possibility of a later realization that what you were positive about at one point could have been wrong.

Real strength of character involves being able to admit to wrong, even if that realization is terrible. In some societies the idea of having made mistakes brings dishonor on entire families. In our society the military culture is such that honor is everything; or it was. This administration has pulled the heart and guts out of any such code of honor in favor of allegiance to their plan for domination and their version of "right." But that too depends on your definition of "right."

The fact that much of what they espouse has to do with their Christian religion, and that a new culture of religious intolerance and pressure has grown up in the military academies of America, is no secret. When the love of country and honor...ideas, decision making, and weighing things... is replaced with allegiance to an ideology represented by a very powerful minority, ruling with fear rather than strengthening our collective will by reminding us what our American values are, we are no longer the America of the founders. Westhusing subscribed wholeheartedly to the credo of Honor or Death. He embraced the ideals of this country to the point that they were woven into his being. The realization that so many representatives of our country, of us, were not only corrupt, but committing atrocities, and the realization that the commanders had no intention of doing the honorable thing and stopping these abuses, was too much for him.

Was Westhusing murdered? Well, conspiracy theorists out there have some information and I suppose that one could make a case for further investigation. But one thing is for sure; He was a man of honor, he was despondent over corruption involving his direct commanders and said as much in a suicide letter addressed to them, and regardless of who pulled the trigger, he got the information out. I will leave the energy for trying to convict a lesser employee of a subcontractor to others who like to dig these things out. No direct connection will ever be found to Petraeus. It just doesn't work that way.

The implication is there, but the bigger implication is about the man whose finger will never be physically placed on the trigger; David Petraeus. This is the man who would immediately stop the very slow withdrawals that Bush began last year. This is the man who would continue to pour good money after bad into a situation that cannot even be basically stabilized after so many years. Today, All Spin Zone covers the hearings and asks that if Petraeus were a CEO or any top management in any business, wouldn't he be fired for this poor performance? What does someone have to do to get fired in this administration? At some point, aren't we going to question the implications and accusations floating around this man? At some point doesn't he lose all credibility as someone implicated in so many failed plans? Where is the honor in this leadership and where is the honor in this war?

RIP Ted Westhusing, and everyone else who has given their lives in this farce...RIP.

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Melina is the proprietor of the blog Ripcoco.com and writes for Brilliant at Breakfast.


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War is a Racket
Posted by: Dogfather on Apr 8, 2008 5:58 AM   
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General Smedley Butler of the USMC wrote that. And it is as true today as it was when he wrote the book. Look it up.
This is why we resist war. It is almost always done for reasons other than those stated by our leaders. Blind obediance and following the liars to war serves noboby but those who profit from war. Meanwhile thousands of innocent civillians die. Thousands of americans die. For a lie. While the private contractors and war profiteers laugh all the way to the bank.
Teaching Peace here at home has never been more important. Help our young people learn that there are other solutions to our problems than useing violence.
Dont support the troops. Support those who resist and those who refuse to kill for profit.

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» RE: War is a Racket Posted by: Litt_Wmn
» War is a Racket and Posted by: marid
we've always sacrificed the best and brightest
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Apr 8, 2008 7:08 AM   
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weakening the gene pool.

thus we have george in office and multiple open-ended occupations grinding the unlucky volunteers into hamburger. go usa.

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» not everyone matures at the same rate Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Innocence Lost
Posted by: nmeyer on Apr 8, 2008 7:16 AM   
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Melina, a potent essay.

Sometimes we project all the good we are not, all the hopes and dreams we have, onto innocent boys and then kill the young men they become when we see that they see we are not living our own hopes and dreams.

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While this story goes unnoticed,
Posted by: Quannah on Apr 8, 2008 9:22 AM   
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General Petraeus sits before a Senate committee spewing more lies. Giving phony reasons why we can't begin a drawdown of troops. Phony reasons why we can't cut deployments from 15 months to 12 months. (Even though the Army Surgeon General reports yesterday that over 1/4 of those serving 3 or 4 deployments have serious mental health problems) Phony stories about who our enemies are. Phony stories about how many die. Phony stories about why we are there. Phony stories about what military contractors are really doing.

This war is a concoction of this administration and they are the only people responsible for it. Will we ever hold them accoutable?

WE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

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This reminds me of a little something Donald Rumsfeld said on September 10, 2001
Posted by: Rune on Apr 9, 2008 12:52 AM   
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On September 10, 2001, Rumsfeld dropped a bombshell. Well, actually, he let on that quite a lot of bombshells and who knows what else had gone missing. By his estimate, the Pentagon could not account for $2.3 Trillion of DoD spending. Yeah, trillion, with a "T." Then, 9/11 wiped that news and the memory of it clean away, and Don and the boys were off to loot hundreds of billions more, faster and more brazenly than ever before. . . .

The essay tells a very sad story about a seemingly very good man in a very wrong place for such a person. What a terrible shame and painful loss for his loved ones, no matter what the true nature of his violent death. The suicides, the brutal rapes, the brain and body injuries, the killings, the sheer inhumanity of it all! And yet. And yet there is the latest general up on the screen giving us all the same empty excuses for the revolting parade of death and destruction that the profiteers in power demand of such a person--and apparently share scraps under the table with a promise of more and better to come--and not a single senator can be heard to say, "ENOUGH! We have heard all this before and we will not listen to it again. We have too much dignity and decency to put up with any more of this."

None can say such a thing because it is not true. That dignity and decency should come before looting and shooting is even more unbelievable than the utter depravity of war mongering we have come to accept as part of the non-negotiable "American way of life."

R.I.P.

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A tale of private contractors in Iraq...
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 9, 2008 1:44 AM   
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Private contractors have been involved in the occupation from day one, but their activities there haven't been reported on much. For background see: A brief history of the training of Iraqi security forces

The first big role for contractors was to train up a new Iraq army:

Late 2003: Vinnell Corp., the U.S. military contractor hired to do the training, proved unequal to the task. The first Iraqi battalion, graduating in October, quickly fell apart because of desertions, and the second battalion refused to fight against insurgents in Fallujah in April 2004.

And see this from Salon: Outsourcing the war to private military contractors such as Blackwater has shattered the United States' moral authority. . .

While private forces make up more than 50 percent of the overall operation in Iraq, according to a study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism, they have been mentioned in only a quarter of 1 percent of all American media stories on Iraq.

Yet, at the same time, contractors are one of the most visible and hated aspects of the American presence in Iraq. . .

It is also important to note that Iraqi civilians do not differentiate the acts of the private military contractors from the overall U.S. military effort, just because they are outside the chain of command.


To put this another way, 50% of the U.S. forces in Iraq operate outside of any legal code of justice. Was Petraeus asked about the role of private contractors in Iraq today during the hearings? No. The issue never came up. Who is paying for these contractors? U.S. taxpayers - and yet none of the candidates or anyone else thought to bring this up.

However, these private contractors work closely with U.S. forces - do they take orders from Petraeus? Are they within the chain of command? At least 1500 private contractors have been killed in Iraq. Most of those go unreported by a corporate press - a press whose owners are primary beneficiaries of the new rush to privatization.

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» RE: rush to privatization Posted by: solrev
» RE: rush to privatization Posted by: drsivana99
Death from cognitive dissonance....
Posted by: CatDad on Apr 9, 2008 2:33 AM   
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He was probably a true believer who actually believed the scam justification of WMDs and that we were in Iraq to promote "democracy." At some point the reality set in, and in his case it was too overwhelming...

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 9, 2008 2:35 AM   
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We don't have to accept war-for-profit or management-by-terror.

Direct Democracy

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And why the FUCK are OBOMBa, McPAIN and HITlary showing up all of a sudden for BETRAYUS?
Posted by: maxpayne on Apr 9, 2008 6:19 AM   
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So let me get this straight. These 3 scumbags hardly ever show up to cast important votes and now they want to use a traitor to give them political points ? Here's an Independent who doesn't use BETRAYUS to score political points.

VOTENADER.ORG !

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Beware of self-serving politcians in patriotic clothing
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 9, 2008 6:55 AM   
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As a former Regular Air Force officer with the greatest respect for American military leaders unless proven wrong, I have defended General Petraeus in the past as a trustworthy and principled soldier. But after watching him tap dance again before Congress today instead of speaking the truth about Iraq, I am convinced he's a Bush-league politician, not a true patriot.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush with smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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» I tried Ralph once Posted by: marid
What does it take to get fired by W?
Posted by: cisc on Apr 9, 2008 7:15 AM   
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That's easy, tell the truth and show some honor-Abizaid, Fallon, etc. We Americans hate to lose. It is just too complex to understand we have already lost so much more important things than the perception of being winners at "kicking ass". We have lost an unspeakable amount of our treasury, we have lost our moral authority in the world, and yeah, we lost a decent young man who thought we were a better people than this. He thought honor, integrity, and decency stood for something. My deepest sympathy to his family, their loss is ours as well.

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Amy Goodman speaking tour
Posted by: donnee on Apr 9, 2008 7:36 AM   
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A real alternative point of view...

http://tour.democracynow.org/

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What Price, Honor?
Posted by: soowee on Apr 9, 2008 7:39 AM   
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What is the point of continuing to work for such a dishonest regime as that of the Incumbent?

Why are so many willing to whore themselves out to be a co-operating part of the most obviously corrupt Administration we have had since WWII?

I just don't get it.

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» RE: What Price, Honor? Posted by: ChairmanMetal
» Just like CEOs Posted by: marid
Retired or Dead
Posted by: Southern Gal on Apr 9, 2008 7:47 AM   
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Why is it that the only military officers who speak out against the war are those who are retired or dead? Would that COL Ted Westhusing had spoken out in public rather than suffered out of the spotlight. I admire him for better trying to understand and apply the ethics of war.

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» RE: etired or Dead Posted by: anna132
Betrayus to Get 6th Star!
Posted by: johnbradleycopeland on Apr 9, 2008 8:29 AM   
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My Senator from South Carolina - Lindsey Grahamnesty states he wants to give Gen. Betrayus a 6th Star during testimony!
I guess Col. Grahamnesty ( Reserves) needs some more rugs from Iraq! Point - America has been lied to so many times about 9-11, Osama, Iran, Iraq, InJustice Department, Homeland InSecurity, Senators and Congress members in bed with others, the total loss of billions of dollars during transport, wire tapping of American citizen's, traitor's who outed American CIA agents, election fraud, torture, hired "killer" corporate soldiers, corrupt Attorney Generals commiting trial fraud in Alabama, food supply poisons, preseciption drug fraud, tainted pet food, lead based painted toys for your children, health care fraud, free trade agreements, jailed border guards, billion dollar tax payer bailout of wall street and the death of over FOUR THOUSAND American men and women of honor who have been killed by thier own leaders indirectly! America how much more can you take before you rise up and return dignity and honor to our country! How long will you be silent and do nothing!

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» No such rank exists Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Ah but a true Neocon Posted by: marid
» True, but a Senator... Posted by: Illiteratilumen
but... but... this sounds like a CONSPIRACY THEORY!
Posted by: realtruther on Apr 9, 2008 8:53 AM   
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Silly rabbits, if there were anything to this, why haven't the media reported it? And why isn't Chomsky on board? And where are your balilstics experts? I think the writer is part of a Rovian scheme to make the left look bad! come back when you have some evidence! Et cetera! Et cetera!

Actually, I don't doubt for a minute there was foul play involved in this and many other "suicides". Just trying to make a point. :)

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» Actually, you make the opposite point Posted by: Joshua Holland
Murder or suicide?
Posted by: EinMD on Apr 9, 2008 10:10 AM   
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When I first read about this I found one thing that was highlighted a lot that seemed a little strange.

Ted was left handed, yes.

The gunshot wound was on the left side. Yes.

However, the gunshot wound was behind his left ear. Now, I've never committed suicide before ( obviously ) or attempted to, and I'm not some forensic scientist or something. But if you're going to shoot yourself with the intent of killing yourself isn't that kind of an odd place to put the gun?

Now granted I've only see illustrations of this behavior in movies and on TV so my vision of it is skewed. Most of them seem to put the gun to their temple or in their mouth. But to put the bullet behind your ear you'd have to reach your left arm back behind you to do it.

Has anyone seen an autopsy report by chance? Cuz if the gun was within a few inches of his head ( which it would have to be if he was killing himself ) the back of his head would be peppered with burnt and unburnt propellant and there'd be a distinctive wound.

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» RE: Murder or suicide? Posted by: buzzsaw
How sad
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Apr 9, 2008 10:35 AM   
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Seems to me this guy's life and death are symbolic of the country's attitude of this war. Everybody was all excited and gung-ho in the beginning but once the lies became obvious people became disillusioned.

Lucky me, I was disillusioned from the very beginning! So I didn't have to go thru a painful period of accepting the grim reality.

Patriotism can be a great thing, but unfortunately, too many Americans have too high an opinion of this country and its leaders that is based on PR, not truth. "We can do no wrong!" is not an accurate assessment, but it's what all the right wingers push. Good grief, the reality is SO FAR from the PR image guys like Petraeus push, it's no wonder people of conscious have become grossly disillusioned to the point of suicide.

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JW Smith
Posted by: JWSmith90291 on Apr 9, 2008 12:37 PM   
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To answer your question: It hasn't been "kept quiet." The fact that you're, supposedly, only just now noticing this is probably more related with your attempt to discredit General Petraeus than with anything about this story or its telling.

Ted Westhusing killed himself after realizing that his mission would require him to delve into a culture of Iraq and Iraqis that only those who have been there can understand.

His distrust for them was a mirror of his DISGUST with them and their corruption and the fact that their corruption spread like a cancer to volunteers and contractors alike that had chosen to leave their homes, jobs and families hoping to assist people whom were thought to be worth assisting.

His complaints to his bosses only echoed what they already were beginning to assimilate on their own -- that Americans have to dive into the crap that is Iraqi culture in order to get Iraqis to feel motivated to do anything to help finish the mission there. That particular cultural immersion is something that few could stomach without holding their noses -- and compromising their principles. Some saw that compromise as a necessary loss to get Iraqis to get things done for themselves in their own country.

Idealism may be a fantastic diversion but it seldom accomplishes much aside from disillusionment. And THAT is what killed Ted Westhusing.

Now, here's a question for you: How low do you have to be to try to assassinate the character of a man like David Petraeus?

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Whistleblowers have a very high suicide rate
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 9, 2008 2:29 PM   
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Especially when blowing whistles at the armed or powerful.

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Before Going to Iraq
Posted by: Litt_Wmn on Apr 9, 2008 2:34 PM   
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If Westhusing had read some of the history of Amrica's previous wars, he may not have been so naive about going into Iraq. America is not the world's nanny, and it is not our business to go about patronizingly "freeing" people and giving them democracy. Almost every war America ever fought was fought for profit, or for purposes of political influence or aggression. It's sad that Westhusing apparently shared this patronizing attitude to other countries that made him think he could go in there and "bring" them "freedom" and "democracy." How would Americans feel if others wanted to come in here and take over the country and teach them to have racial equality, or some such twaddle? Westhusing might have asked himself: Why Iraq? Why not Saudi Arabia? Why not North Korea? A little forethought might have spared him all this angst.

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Applying Leeches to Cure Anemia..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 9, 2008 4:25 PM   
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General Petraeus is like a Medieval Doctor apply Leeches to a Patient to Cure Anemia..!

Simple as that..!

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Dirty? Stupid question.
Posted by: rjs on Apr 11, 2008 12:32 PM   
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The General is operating an illegal war under the direction of a corrupt regime. Of course he is dirty. If the general had any real balls he would send the tanks and men to Washington and place the current administration under arrest for treason. He would follow the Constitution and protect us citizens from all enemies both foreign AND "DOMESTIC". He would tell Bush NO, and do what he had to do to protect our own soil as well in which he is not doing. He is more than dirty, he is General Betray Us and will always be known for it.

--rjs

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The USA has become like an Ostrich with its' head in tha sand of Iraq
Posted by: COACH0006 on Apr 12, 2008 5:33 PM   
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It is a sad day in the history of the United States of America, when a high ranking officer, who happens to be a West Point graduate, assigned to Iraq commits suicide
(Is murdered?) because, as a person his moral convictions told him, the war in Iraq was based on a pack of lies from the very start. This officer leaves a spouse and small children behind to fend for themselves in a Country where, Honour, Justice, truth of comvictions mean very little to those at the top of our supposedly freely elected (read about what happened in Florida and Ohio in the 2000 Elections) society.

We can point fingers and condemn those with the courage to stand tall and who dare to harbinger the TRUTH, regardless of harassment and the utter destruction of their careers by those very people that owe their freedoms to those persons actions, convictions and willingness to sacrifice all on behalf of truth and equal justice for all.

It is a very tough decision to give up life, limb, property, career, family, for the very principles our forefathers were wise enough to write and place in our Constitution. We, as a people, are losing our vision of what it means to say out loud, 'I am and always will be a true patriot, and want to believe that truth and justice for all men, women and children survives and reaches far beyond the decayed beliefs of those that seek to destroy our very way of life.

We, as American Citizens, must stand up together, as true patriots and speak out against those that seek uncontrolled checks and balances, against those that seek to take away our Rights, Freedoms and Equal Justice, under the Laws that hold this Union of States together, no matter what the consequences to us personally. One can not be feign of heart when our very Rights to exist as a free people are being trampled and tossed aside, for personal gain, by those in the many seats of power within our Government.

Please get out and vote this coming November.....to do less is to insure further erosion of our basic Rights as Citizens of the United States of America. Lets' do all we can do to insure our childrens' children the basic rights of free people.

Speak out with determination and courage so that our Constitution remains a bright beacon of hope and justice for generations to come......Don't be a couch potato or an ostrich.......Voice your opinion(s) and vote in November....."We the People of the United States of America need to say enough is enough, and we are not going to take 'IT' any more". Say it loud and clear by voting out the politicions corrupted by personal gain on the backs of the poor, downtrodden and lower middle class.

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