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Posted by Jill Filipovic, Feministe at 1:07 PM on April 2, 2008.


It's not ok to ignore feminist theory or throw women under the bus in order to promote animal welfare.
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Shocker: Animal rights activism can be sexist.

TWO things that you can find a lot of in Portland, Ore., are vegans and strip clubs. Johnny Diablo decided to open a business to combine both. At his Casa Diablo Gentlemen's Club, soy protein replaces beef in the tacos and chimichangas; the dancers wear pleather, not leather. Many are vegans or vegetarians themselves.
But Portland is also home to a lot of young feminists, and some are not happy with Mr. Diablo's venture. Since he opened the strip club last month, their complaints have been "all over the Internet," he said. "One of them came in here once. I could tell she had an attitude right when she came in. She was all hostile."
Mr. Diablo isn't concerned with the "feminazis," as he calls them. As a vegan himself, he says he hasn't worn or eaten animal products in 24 years and is worried about cruelty to animals. "My sole purpose in this universe is to save every possible creature from pain and suffering," he said.

Except for women, apparently.

I am glad, however, to see feminist vegetarians, vegans and animal rights activists speaking out against sexism while still promoting animal liberation theory. I’m happy to see that they don’t buy the line that any means to promote veganism are a-ok.

Isa Chandra Moskowitz, a cookbook author, is among those who believe such images twist the vegan message. "As a feminist, I'm not keen on the idea of using women's bodies to sell veganism, and I'm not into the idea of using veganism to sell women's bodies," she said.
Ms. Moskowitz is the host of an online forum, Post Punk Kitchen (www.www.theppk.com), some of whose members are debating Mr. Diablo's vegan strip club. (Last week Mr. Diablo put the club up for sale, although not because of the criticism, he said. He may have overestimated the appeal of stripping to vegans, or of vegan cuisine to striptease fans; an earlier vegan restaurant he ran was poorly received.)
The issue of sexism in vegan circles is "extremely polarizing," said Bob Torres, an author of "Vegan Freak," a guide to living a vegan lifestyle, which generally means avoiding the use of animals for food, clothing or other purposes. Mr. Torres, like many vegans, disavows the "essential idea at the heart of some animal rights activism that any means justifies the ends," he said. Certain activists, he added, care only about "animal suffering and ignore the suffering of humans," a category into which he would put women who are exploited.

Elaine Vigneault, 32, a vegan and former women's studies major who lives in New York, doesn't have a problem with a vegan strip club or a recent PETA protest in London in which a pregnant woman got into a cage in her underwear to draw attention to the treatment of pregnant pigs. "I think it's really important that when reviewing and analyzing images of women, we take into account their perspective of what they're trying to say," Ms. Vigneault said.

That’s all fine and good, and we should take into account what women are trying to do and say, but just because a woman chooses to partake in something doesn’t automatically make it not-sexist. For example:

Contributors to the popular feminist blog Feministing have criticized the emphasis of the "Skinny Bitch" books on weight loss, noting that some women with eating disorders use vegan diets to restrict their food intake. Ms. Freedman isn't buying that critique. "It's not politically correct to suggest women should be thin," she said. "But it is healthier."

It’s not politically correct to suggest that women should be thin? Uh oh, someone needs to tell fashion magazines, TV and movies that they’re totally counter-culture!

I understand the intersections between animal rights and feminism. I think it’s important to explore those intersections. But it’s also not ok to ignore feminist theory or throw women under the bus in order to promote animal welfare. And “But women themselves are doing it!” isn’t the greatest of excuses.

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Tagged as: women, sexism, vegan, peta, vegetarians

Jill Filipovic is a New York-based freelance writer and a law student at NYU. More of her writing is available online at her blog, Feministe.


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Jill Filipovic
Posted by: bookie on Apr 2, 2008 1:19 PM   
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I read this post twice trying to figure out what Ms Filipovic was against. She needs to be clear on the subject for herself and her readers. One thing I am sure about though...that model in the pic looks hungry and needs a steak.

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» RE: Jill Filipovic Posted by: Techubus
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» RE: Jill Filipovic Posted by: morticia
» RE: Jill Filipovic Posted by: sui_generis
Meh. How about pro-choice for a change?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM   
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If someone chooses to open a strip club, and chooses to offer jobs to people who choose to apply, who is hurt? Are the employees paid well enough so that they stay for a while? Who are we to pass judgment on their personal business/employment decisions?

Why the sudden switch to a semi-religious (i.e., "my morals trump your choice") anti-choice position?

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» ***I*** am hurt Posted by: Zenobia
» Maybe you wouldn't be hurt so much Posted by: xconservative
» Then by all means practice... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Then by all means practice... Posted by: plantsareneat
» Choices Posted by: mainspark
» RE: ***I*** am hurt Posted by: xenocyd
» RE: ***I*** am hurt Posted by: wavydavy
» RE: You can't force others to behave as you wish Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Exploited?
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Apr 2, 2008 3:05 PM   
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Doesn't it seem patronizing for so-called feminists to dictate how other women can and cannot express their sexuality? So if strippers are automatically being exploited, are women who choose to be housewives being servile? I thought feminism entailed empowering women to pursue whatever endeavors they choose individually.

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» RE: xploited? Posted by: no$forviolence
Shocker: Animal rights activism can be sexist.
Posted by: mr. joshua on Apr 2, 2008 3:07 PM   
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Shocker, huh? Are you kidding? Are you next going to be shocked that environmental activism can be racist? Why is it shocking when two largely unrelated endeavors turn out to be...largely unrelated?

While I agree that it would be nice to pursue all of our laudable goals for society simultaneously, it is only natural to expect that these various and diverse paths will not always align.

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» RE: Har har Posted by: Techubus
sexy hot vegans
Posted by: vasumurti on Apr 3, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Sex sells. PETA has also taken a lot of flack from feminists within the animal rights movement for some of its tactics, like its use of supermodels and the "We'd Rather Go Naked Than Wear Fur" campaign. However, most of what PETA does (protecting and rescuing animals, writing letters to the heads of corporations, promoting veganism and a cruelty-free lifestyle, etc.) wouldn't get attention. The public thrives on sex and sensationalism--not balanced debate on serious moral issues.

In her 1991 book, The Sexual Politics of Meat, Carol J. Adams notes that throughout human history, beginning with the hunter-gatherer tribes, meat has been associated with male violence and masculinity, people with power, the aristocracy, etc.

Meat is associated with male virility, whereas vegetable and nonmeat foods are viewed as women’s food. "Meat is a symbol of patriarchy" writes Adams bluntly. She cites a fictional illustration from Mary McCarthy’s Birds of America. Miss Scott, a vegetarian, is invited to a NATO general’s house for Thanksgiving. Her refusal of turkey angers the general.

According to Adams, "Male belligerence in this area is not limited to fictional military men. Men who batter women have often used the absence of meat as a pretext for violence against women."

Adams compares "The Rape of Animals" to "the Butchering of Women," as well as "Sexual Violence and Meat Eating." She quotes the organizer of a "Bunny Bop" in which rabbits are killed by clubs, feet, stones, etc. as saying, "What would all these rabbit hunters be doing if they weren’t letting off all this steam? I’ll tell you what they'd be doing. They’d be drinking and carousing and beating their wives."

The Feminists for Animal Rights newsletter (Vol. VI, Nos. 1-2, 1991) similarly cites EarthSave as stating that taxpayer subsidies to the livestock industry in California for 1991 totaled $24 million, while the yearly budget for child welfare was only $125,000.

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» Even though.... Posted by: morticia
Lack of originality in advertising.
Posted by: mensch on Apr 3, 2008 3:28 PM   
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I think what this article really does highlight is the lack of originality in advertising. It has regressed over the past decade back into the blatant sexualisation of ANYTHING, as it was in the 70s and early 80s. I was disappointed when PETA launched their sexiest vegetarian competition, which consisted of a bunch of vain people sending in their modelling or MySpace underwear shots. I also don't particularly agree with the nudity against fur campaign, where they get famous people to lose their clothes to prove...what was the point again? ;) I think there are smarter ways to promote a cause such as animal welfare without getting stupid people to strip. Hey, wait a minute! I have an idea!! How about focusing on the ANIMALS!????? Oh, yeah...

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All-Faith Annual Pole-Dancing Benefit For Orphans
Posted by: loxias on Apr 3, 2008 4:09 PM   
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I guess we can easily make the assumption that the owner is conservative, as he doesn't see humans as animals, many of whom find stripping demeaning and psychologically harmful. (To all of you ignorant liberals, I apologize for giving you too much credit) I'm sure many people have no problem with animals allowing themselves to be slaughtered and consumed, so how can it be wrong? "I've never seen a cow protest!" So how can you see shades of grey with womens' rights, but not in animals' rights? Much too easily, apparently. I could care less whether people kill animals, I don't think it matters aside from the fact that mass animal farming is ecologically unsustainable, resource consuming, and unhealthy. But so is just about everything else people do. They don't care. If you can pollute the ground water across half a state to make enough hog maws to export to Central America, from where you shipped in water taken from natives to process your flesh, why would you care if you left some girl with a ruined sense of self-esteem and a few STD's. But wait, he has a higher moral compass if vegan right? Of course it's different, strippers aren't animals with emotions. Oh I meant cows. I'm not sure how to use words to emphasize just how twisted people's thinking is. Oh wait, 50% drop out rate. No wonder. Is that a problem? Not if you're employing strippers. (Sorry to all you strippers with Masters degrees and no conflicts of interest who just do it for the fun no offense I know thats a lot of you.)

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Sexy Hot misnomer
Posted by: DeeOhGee on Apr 3, 2008 5:08 PM   
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The title is wryly ironic, but I find it misguided. Why is it not also ok to also promote moving toward plant based diet by demonstrating how it will make you less obese and generally sexier? A lot of vegetarians and people with sensible diets I know are slender, hot, and enjoy their sexuality, and they see no contradictions in this.

How is being sexy equated with "throwing women under the bus?" What nonsense. It's more accurate to say that denying and repressing one's sexuality is throwing her under the bus.

This sounds like an old style feminist promoting an anti-sex agenda. Come on, get with the program. It's okay to enjoy your animal nature, your raw sexuality. Did you miss the last four decades?

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» RE: Sexy Hot misnomer Posted by: loxias