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Do Americans Really Want a War Hero for President?

Posted by Matt Stoller, Open Left at 4:44 PM on March 28, 2008.


While the conservative myth is dominant in the political press, there's no just no evidence voters want a hero for President
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McCain is obviously hinging his whole campaign on his POW time in Vietnam, with this spot closing with 'An American President Americans Have Been Waiting for'. This is a frequent tool he deploys when he speaks with the press, saying things like 'I haven't been questioned this hard since Hanoi'.

I can't help but think that it's a foolish narrative. 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004 all saw the candidate without military service elected over the candidate who had served, in several cases heroically. There's a standard conservative narrative about America, one that existed before Hollywood but has been perfected by the entertainment business. In that narrative, baseball was a pastoral sport untainted by money until greedy city corruptors got their mitts on it, rural America is a place free of sin and greed, war is glorious and divine, segregation was an anomaly, businessmen are self-made, and Americans want a hero for a leader. It's the Horatia Alger myth spun in various webs outward, a timeless perfection that is America.

Liberal myths look different, and focus on love of country not as the embodiment of perfection but as the embodiment of our own capacity to improve who we are. This demands an honest understanding that yes, we have flaws. The story that Obama and Clinton tell by their very presence is about our ability to change direction, include those who are different, and build a diverse messy democracy that works. It's a much more real and beautiful story in my opinion, and it's also more powerful at this moment when we are confronted with immense tragedies, many of which are of our own making. And people know this. There are no Rambo style movies coming out anymore emphasizing the indestructable muscle bound American heros and dominating the culture. The top eight grossing movies of 2007 were Spiderman 3, Shrek, the Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter, I am Legend, the Bourne Ultimatum, and National Treasure: Book of Secrets. All of these emphasize either flawed heros doing battle with themselves, an incompetent, overpowered, or actively malicious state, the apocalypse, or an ironic challenge to mainstream cultural norms as the route to happiness. This is just not a good environment for an excessively sincere call to serve instruments of national power.

So while the conservative myth is dominant in the political press, there's no just no evidence voters want a hero for President, just as every professional baseball team is identified with a city and youth are leaving rural areas for vibrant and diversely creative metropolitan areas. Or at any rate, since 1992, voters keep voting against the hero. So don't be lulled by McCain's narrative into thinking it's a sign that he's a tough candidate. That's what John Kerry thought when he took on George Bush. Bush might be President, but Kerry was a hero in Vietnam, and surely the American people would trust a hero with national security.

... Ed Kilgore has similar thoughts at the Democratic Strategist.

McCain may be in the process of making the same big mistake his friend Kerry made in 2004--making his biography the overriding centerpiece of his national security message. Sure, McCain's war record attests to his character and patriotism, but hardly means he'd be an effective commander-in-chief. If that were the case, we'd only have military leaders as presidents. What McCain has to say about national security issues will, over time, have as great an impact on how he's perceived by persuadable voters as endless clips of him in uniform or returning from the Hanoi Hilton. The tragedy of the Kerry campaiign was that the man did have a pretty powerful grasp of national security challenges and what to do about them, but it never much got a hearing thanks to the back-and-forth about his own "story."

In contrast, much of what John McCain's been saying on the substance of national security and foreign policy strikes me as an odd combo of George W. Bush's 2000 and 20004 messages: a multilateral, "humble" foreign policy based on the continuation and even expansion of the very single-minded military adventurism that's made Bush a global pariah and empirical failure. Suggesting that the Democratic nominee isn't fit to debate him on national security because he or she doesn't have a war record isn't going to cut it for John McCain.

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Tagged as: war, bush, vietnam, kerry, mccain

Matt Stoller is a political activist/blogger in DC, and was an editor at MyDD from November 2005 until June 2007. He also consults for the Sunlight Foundation, FreePress.net, and Working Assets as well as proactively networking other progressive bloggers/internet activists and progressive professionals.


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It is about fear, not logic
Posted by: Rune on Mar 28, 2008 1:30 PM   
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This analysis makes a lot of sense to me. That is a red flag. When a well crafted, logical basis for supporting a presidential candidate appeals to my rational faculties, the mass of voters usually line up at the polls to demonstrate how little they care about such things.

I think it tends to work like this. The conservatives put forward a very rough sketch of something scary--foreign terrorists waiting for a chance to destroy America, for instance--let the voters fill in the color and details of the scary prospect, then pledge to fight and protect us against all the bad things everyone imagines might happen.

The so-called opposition party then complains about fear mongering and proceeds to explain who the conservative tough guys probably can't live up to their claims about keeping us safe because it will cost to much, might be illegal, is not technically feasible, etc., etc.

So, that leaves the voters with a bigger than life image of something bad coming there way, a conservative who says he will go to all lengths to protect them, and a supposedly left leaning opposition explaining why we can't be saved. Not surprisingly, not being saved usually doesn't carry the day.

In the rare instances when the conservatives loose this game, they don't manage to provide a sufficiently scary sketch (Ford, Bush 41, Dole, for example) and/or the opposition spends at least as much time describing in concrete terms how much better off we will be if we vote for them as they do deflating the level of fear promoted by the opposition (Clinton, for instance, spoke of college funding, balanced budgets giving rise to prosperity, and 100,000 more cops cracking down on crime).

McCain is doing his best with the fear/protector side of things. Neither Clinton nor Obama are coming up with a concrete, believable picture of how the average person will be better off under their watch. At best, they provide hazy images of how we might be less worse off than we might be if they do not do whatever propose to slow down the long slide Bush 43 has put the country in. My hunch says, that is not enough.

The writing is on the wall. Iraq is on its way to exploding prior to their elections in October, just before Americans go to the polls in November. McCain, being tied to a party that has screwed the economy, left a vast swath of America to drown and die in the Gulf region, shown no ability to restrain the size or promote the effectiveness of government, sits on its hands while its most loyal constituents are wiped out by a health care crisis, can play only the war hero card. The question is, will anyone come up with a compelling and plausible picture of a bright future, even if they need to carefully crop and obscure a lot of ugliness? If not, I think I know how this one is going to end, as illogical as that conclusion may seem.

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I object to the title - Insane McCain in a war-criminal
Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 28, 2008 1:33 PM   
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In Vietnam he is responsible for directly killing civilains in an illegal war of aggression.

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I object to the title - Insane McCain in a war-criminal
Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 28, 2008 1:33 PM   
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In Vietnam he is responsible for directly killing civilains in an illegal war of aggression.

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POW status
Posted by: charemor1 on Mar 28, 2008 1:43 PM   
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Being a prisoner of war hardly qualifies one for being called a war hero.

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» RE: POW status Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: POW status Posted by: wwittman
» RE: So we have different heroes, you and I. Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal
» Dittohead alert! Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: POW status Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: POW status Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal
» RE: POW status Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: POW status Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: ANYONE that supported this war... Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal
» RE: POW status Posted by: Doubtom
aggressive talk and action
Posted by: mwildfire on Mar 28, 2008 2:37 PM   
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I see one little problem with the comparisons in which the candidate without military experience won over one who did have it--except for Clinton, the one with experience was less enthusiastic about war. The key thing is to let the war machine know you'll continue to support them--otherwise you get shot down.
Or maybe I just want to believe this, to allow me to keep hoping that the one candidate with a real chance of being elected who is at least reasonable and restrained some of the time in his speech, will not really keep providing the war machine with fodder but will disappoint them.

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What Is a Hero?
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Mar 28, 2008 6:49 PM   
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Even the consummate coward George W. Bush, who dodged the draft and deserted from the Air National Guard when drug testing was introduced, has tried to play the macho warrior, dressing in a flight suit or flight jacket and taunting potential enemies with "bring 'em on!" The real courage of people like Martin Luther King, Rachel Corrie and Mohandas Gandhi--or for that matter, Jesus--doesn't have the in-your-face appeal for people who think WWF wrestling is a sport and Rambo is a role model. John Kerry was a real, decorated war hero and was trashed while Bush was praised as a great patriot.

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» RE: What Is a Hero? Posted by: Dboy
Simple question...
Posted by: Suz on Mar 28, 2008 8:00 PM   
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...simple answer: no, thank you. Not this particular one.

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» Old Lizard FACE! Posted by: williameon
Do Americans really want BUSH's LAP DOG for President?
Posted by: williameon on Mar 29, 2008 3:09 AM   
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McPain: Lap Dog for President!

John McPain is
Bush’s Lap Dog
with
No Teeth
and
Little Bite.

His heads is so far up George’s A-s!
That I have a hard time
Telling them apart!

Is this all
The Corpirates have to offer?
Another old
Fossilized
Reptilian
BU__! SH__!
Artist!

A Hundred more YEARS!
Of
Mc-Pain and Destruction?

From a Guy who could kick off Tomarrow?

What ever happened to
Riding into The Sunset?

Another
Old Zombie Vampire
Trying to SUCK your last
Drop of Blood
Before he dies.

Now that’s what I call:
Bushanomics!

McPain/Bush
What’s the Difference?

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Some Hero!
Posted by: Magginkat on Mar 29, 2008 7:18 AM   
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How does one become a war hero sitting in a POW camp singing like a canary?

Furthermore a number of vets said that McCain was not tortured but was given preferential treatment......the same as he had been given all his life because of his father & grandfather.

It could be reasonably argued that the reason he ended up as a POW was because he was such a pisspoor pilot.... (destroyed 4 planes before he got to Vietnam).

If someone looked closer it might be proven that he killed over 130 other military members playing super jock with plane #4.

That's a war hero??? I say it looks more like a war criminal.

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» RE: Some Hero! Posted by: Doubtom
The Manchurian Candidate
Posted by: indepentent on Mar 29, 2008 11:57 AM   
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I once admired John McCain...but now I have doubts about is aspirations to be our next President.

Stop and think! What did the Viet Congs do to McCain?

Now one really knows....Remember Viet Congs were supported by the Red Chinese Communist leader Mao Zedong.

I believe the Congs brainwashed McCain.

I can see no other reason for McCain to want the Presidency so much that he would suck up and kiss George W. Bush ass after his smear campaign against McCain.

^In the 2000 South Carolina Presidential primary Bush surrogates circulated stories that McCain's five years as a POW had made him "mentally unstable," gave him a "loose screw," that he "committed treason while a POW" and "came home and forgot us." The stories also called McCain "the fag candidate," called his wife a drug addict, said McCain "chose to sire children without marriage" and had "a black child" (the actual wording of that last smear from the flyers and e-mails that circulated is not printable here).^

He is desperate to win for his controllers back in China!

We are already up to our ears in debt to the Chinese!

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» RE: The Manchurian Candidate Posted by: Dirtman
» RE: The Manchurian Candidate Posted by: Doubtom
Slim
Posted by: Gar208 on Mar 29, 2008 12:48 PM   
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I don't agree with the idea that because someone bombed civilians , hospitals , schools , from 10,000 feet while going along with an invasion of a country on the other side of the planet that was no threat to us , makes one a patriotic hero .

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Plain and simple answer...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 29, 2008 1:20 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
NO!

This man is not a war hero. Hero for what? Being dumb enough to be caught? Gimme a break. And he has proven his dumbness over and over and over and...

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McCain no hero, just a Ollie North, George Bush, et. al are not heroes.
Posted by: thekidde on Mar 29, 2008 1:37 PM   
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Just because a guy gets shot down and imprisoned for 5 years doesn't make him a hero. My platoons in Vietnam - draftees - were more heroic than John McCain because they fought and died in actual combat not by zooming around blowing shit up and then returning to a ship to eat steak and baked potatoes and sleep in a warm dry bed. Fuck McCain and the rest who pretend - this war, like Vietnam is for the rich to get richer. Eat 'em.

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Hero for President??
Posted by: Doubtom on Mar 29, 2008 5:00 PM   
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Tell me exactly what it is that makes McCain a hero? Was it his being captured after getting shot down? Was it because he was imprisoned for so many year, something over which he had no control?
What is it that makes a hero? I suggest, at the minimum, that it takes a heroic act and getting captured is not heroic. It may be unfortunate as hell but its NOT heroic.

Some warring cultures felt it was a disgrace to get captured and preferred death to capture.
Heroism implies the individual had some choice to make and decided on the difficult and dangerous course that makes his action heroic. McCain faced no such circumstance so he's no more a hero than I am or any other member of the military who served during the illegal war in Vietnam. He was however the son of an admiral and that proves more useful than most of our backgrounds.

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» RE: Hero for President?? Posted by: donl51
Why War Hero?
Posted by: donl51 on Mar 31, 2008 7:13 AM   
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Don't get me wrong here! what McCAIN did as a pilot in the Vietnam war ,was his duty, plain and simple! Then he was shot down, survived and was taken captive,this makes him a ''POW '' not a War Hero, what he did, did not save any more American or other's lives anymore than I did while I was in the same stupid war doing what I was told,that neither one of us started,if you remember Pres. Johnson,[a civilian] had a great deal to do w/ us getting into a war ,now there was civil war going on there way back between the north and south,and the french were involved protecting their interests etc etc another story, McCain was a POW ''Audie Murphy'' in ww2 was a ''War Hero'',in vietnam there were war hero's you'll never hear about because the media didn't hype it up and that they may have never been POW's!!!......but Mc Cain the x- mil. man and once POW and human being? as Pres.? HELL NO!.........PS ,these days ''thanks to our media the word war hero is losing it's real meaning,..'that is a serious title that must be well earned!'

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Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Mar 31, 2008 10:22 AM   
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Getting yourself shot down in another illegal war and being held prisoner does not make you a hero. It makes you a former pow. Thas does not make you untouchable either. This man is just too old and too wrong to be our president. I used to respect him but recently he has begun that old flip flop routine that the Republicans can't stomach when others do it.

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No one knows how McCain conducted himself as a POW...
Posted by: ceraiteri on Apr 1, 2008 5:32 PM   
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...and he made sure they won't for some time, as he was in the forefront of sealing the POW records.

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