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Conservatives Used to Be Smart About Iraq -- in the 1990s

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 12:07 PM on March 20, 2008.


Yep, Dick Cheney and John McCain both realized what they were getting into in Iraq, but rejected their own accurate thinking a decade later.
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Cheney and McCain warned of the dangers of an occupied Iraq during and after the first Bush administration.

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It seems almost odd in retrospect, but when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, John McCain was not an enthusiastic supporter of a military confrontation. At the time, McCain said, “To start putting American troops into that kind of meat grinder I just don’t think is a viable option.” As the first Bush administration began formulating plans to intervene, McCain wanted to limit the response to an air campaign.

The president chose a different direction, and McCain quickly fell in line. But the anecdote is a reminder that the McCain we see today, filled with neocon ideas and bellicose rhetoric, used to be far more cautious about putting U.S. troops in harm’s way.

The DNC’s research department highlighted an even more striking example, noting a 1991 interview between McCain and Larry King.

MCCAIN: …I’m not sure that if we did go in on the ground we could tell a Shiite from a Sunni, even from a Kurd. And who is it that we’d be fighting and battling against on the streets of Baghdad? And, if we got into Baghdad, we would lose all of our military supremacy and we would take casualties.
KING: If they’d welcome this-
Sen. McCAIN: One more point - real quick. I want to get rid of Saddam Hussein. There’s a few other dictators I’d like to get rid of, too. And I hate to use the phrase “slippery slope,” but if we’ve got to get rid of this dictator, which ones do we take on next?

That John McCain sure used to be smart, didn’t he?

It reminds me of a speech Dick Cheney gave in 1991, in which he noted the intense sectarian rivalries that dominate Iraqi society and the likely inability to maintain stability in Baghdad. As for replacing Saddam with a democracy, Cheney asked his audience, “How much credibility is that government going to have if it’s set up by the United States military when it’s there?” He added:

“The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.”

Then, in 1994, Cheney reiterated his position.

“Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world and if you take down the central government in Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? And our judgment was — not very many and I think we got it right.”

Yep, Dick Cheney and John McCain both realized what they were getting into in Iraq, but rejected their own accurate thinking a decade later.

I suppose it’s inevitable that McCain and his campaign will respond to this the same way Cheney backers did — by arguing that “9/11 changed everything.” But don’t buy it. The old McCain asked all the right questions and made all right assumptions about sectarian divisions in Iraq, and the inherent challenges in even knowing who we’d be fighting.

The conditions in Iraq didn't change at all, only McCain’s willingness to abandon the judgment that was right a decade before it was wrong.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Oil !!!
Posted by: rafey on Mar 21, 2008 6:56 AM   
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That was before Oil (and big money) became the issue and war profiteers began to whisper in their ears (look how incredibly rich we'll all become if you just ...).

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Likudniks
Posted by: Mycos on Mar 21, 2008 9:32 AM   
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That was right around the time Wolfowitz and Cheney were trying to think of a way NOT to pay out a "peace dividend"...or at least not out of the Pentagon's war budget since Northrop Grumman, Raytheon et al were lobbying hard not to lose the Cold War welfare dollars they had lived extravagantly on for the previous 50 years. Remember, they had been submitting invoices for $ 1000 toilet seat covers until now, so they were in a state of absolute panic now that the end of the Cold War meant they might actually have to wipe their own asses. But AIPAC had the answer for an enemy-less arms industry. Fight Israel's wars for it, hence the movement of PNAC wholesale into key positions throughout the Pentagon and Executive Branch...even a spy-ring running out of Feith's (Undersecretary of Defense?) Pentagon office...a revelation and now ongoing investigation and trial that the MS news-media is so tellingly reticent to do an A-Section story on, despite such high-level treason making it the most serious breach of security to take place throughout the entire 20th century. Just goes to show how much power AIPAC wields over US politicians.

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Played Like Fiddles
Posted by: fraterm on Mar 21, 2008 12:17 PM   
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McCain's inconsistencies alone on this prove how we all have been subjected to radical conditioning to accept this war(no matter the cost). His position before the war on Saddam is no great thing, he has always been trying to be the maverick everyone claims he is and McCain is (contrary to popular belief) a politicians politician.

Right now he's just obviously a rat-bag with unveiled hypocrisy to show for it.

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