Home
Archive
Newsletters
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise
  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

Advertisement
Advertisement

Obama Offers Nuance, Context, and Poetry on Race in America — But Is It Enough?

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 11:10 AM on March 18, 2008.


From where I sat, I found Obama’s speech rather extraordinary. Indeed, it’s the kind of speech politicians just don’t give anymore.
Obama's Speech on Race

Share and save this post:

      

      

Share on Facebook       

AlterNet Social Networks:
follow us on twitter
find us on Facebook

Got a tip for a post?:
Email us | Anonymous form

Get PEEK in your
mailbox!

 


Since his rise to national prominence, Barack Obama has been tasked with giving big speeches while facing high expectations. It’s almost unrealistic to expect any political figure to keep delivering one powerful and historic address after another, but Obama — love him or hate him, an extraordinary orator — has managed to follow through and exceed expectations.



This morning was an especially challenging moment for the senator. Many Americans recoiled when confronted with inflammatory remarks from Obama’s former pastor, and the NYT reported today, that Obama “concluded over the weekend that he had not sufficiently explained his association with the pastor. He told several aides he was worried that if voters did not hear directly from him — in the setting of a major speech — doubts and questions about him might grow.”

With this in mind, Obama took to a Philadelphia stage this morning facing more than expectations; for a change, he was facing skepticism.

Generally, speeches are a bit like art — their quality is in the eye of the beholder. From where I sat, I found Obama’s speech rather extraordinary. Indeed, it’s the kind of speech politicians just don’t give anymore — a brilliant address with context and nuance. It answered key questions, while challenging his audience with new ones.



Of course, our modern political landscape very rarely rewards context and nuance, brilliant or not, so whether Obama managed to help his campaign today remains to be seen. It’s depressing, but Michael Crowley’s point in response to the speech is important: “[It was] brilliant, beautiful, inspiring — but perhaps not what crass electoral politics demanded of him.”

It feels almost ridiculous to wonder whether a candidate’s speech is too good for modern campaigning and today’s media, but it’s hardly an unreasonable question this afternoon.


Obviously, given the news, there was intense interest on how Obama would address the controversy surrounding the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. In truth, he threaded the needle — denouncing what so many have found offensive, while refusing to throw his friend under the bus. At the same time, Obama explained why it is Wright made those comments in the first place, and where Wright went wrong.

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems - two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.
Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way
But the truth is, that isn’t all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God’s work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS. […]
Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety - the doctor and the welfare mom, the model student and the former gang-banger. Like other black churches, Trinity’s services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.
And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.

It would have been easy for Obama to skip past Wright’s role in his family, but he chose not to take the easy way out. It showed real courage for Obama to embrace Wright while rejecting (and explaning) how and why he disagrees with him.



But my favorite part of the speech was Obama dismissal of political trivia that has no business dictating a campaign.
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright’s sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she’s playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.
That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, “Not this time.” This time we want to talk about the crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children and Asian children and Hispanic children and Native American children. This time we want to reject the cynicism that tells us that these kids can’t learn; that those kids who don’t look like us are somebody else’s problem. The children of America are not those kids, they are our kids, and we will not let them fall behind in a 21st century economy. Not this time.
This time we want to talk about how the lines in the Emergency Room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care; who don’t have the power on their own to overcome the special interests in Washington, but who can take them on if we do it together.
This time we want to talk about the shuttered mills that once provided a decent life for men and women of every race, and the homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from every religion, every region, every walk of life. This time we want to talk about the fact that the real problem is not that someone who doesn’t look like you might take your job; it’s that the corporation you work for will ship it overseas for nothing more than a profit.
This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should’ve been authorized and never should’ve been waged, and we want to talk about how we’ll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.
I would not be running for President if I didn’t believe with all my heart that this is what the vast majority of Americans want for this country.

Most of the country didn’t hear the speech, and will never have a chance watch it. They’ll hear a four-and-a-half second soundbite on CNN or MSNBC, followed by some pundit talking about how the speech might move some polls in one direction or another.



Given this, whether the speech “worked” or not isn’t up to Obama; it’s up to talking heads who’ll let everyone else know whether Obama succeeded or not. And frankly, I have no idea what they’ll say. I never do.

But if Obama’s address is judged on its merits, it’ll be considered one of the high points of the campaign. In this sense, the Wright controversy may ultimately prove to be a blessing in disguise — it prompted Obama to deliver one of the great modern speeches on race in America.

Digg!

Tagged as: religion, race, obama, conservatives, african americans, wright

Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


Murdoch and Murdoch Flak Confused About Racism, Truth
What must it be like to do spin for News Corps?
Post by Tana Ganeva. November 11, 2009.
Right-Wing Pundits Now Lecturing the Military: Bases Need More Guns
Logically more guns would mean less shootings, right? Wait ...
Post by Eric Boehlert. November 11, 2009.
Public Option Back on the Chopping Block
Adding to the problem of scared Dems is the Dems who insist upon being catered to. Lieberman has now been joined by Ben Nelson.
Post by mcjoan. November 11, 2009.
Advertisement
Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Comments closed.
The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone who participated.
View:
We are lucky to have witnessed this moment in history
Posted by: OurFuture on Mar 18, 2008 10:48 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I couldn't agree more that this was "one of the great modern speeches on race in America." Senator Obama has demonstrated, again, that he is the true heir of the legacy of Lincoln. The Illinoisan with only a few years' experience in Congress uses the power of language and oratory to attempt to unite Americans under a vision that reconciles a divided nation. One could have described Lincoln in literally the same words.

We can only hope that, rather than this speech being too good for our current level of discourse, that it will succeed in raising the level of discourse. Senator Obama has already succeeded with equally daunting tasks.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

History in the making
Posted by: fbc21ca on Mar 18, 2008 11:06 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The most important speech on race relations in this country since Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech.

Of course, there are always some who can be counted on to be standing at the back of the line, wearing a loin cloth, holding a rock and yelling.

No wonder they don't believe in evolution. ;)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Historical self-awareness
Posted by: jebpgh on Mar 18, 2008 11:15 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
How fitting that Barack delivered this speech in the lap of Independence Hall while HBO tries to raise our standards with their brilliant re-telling of the life and times of John Adams. What has become more than a little striking about Obama's speeches is that they are going to become historically memorable while our friends in the media trivialize them. Adams and his colleagues faced a similar dilemna - speaking to the future while trying to address the urgent complexities of the present. It is no small task.

MLK did it and so did Malcolm. We probably understand more about their insights now then we did back when they gave their speeches. We were caught up in the moment and the moment tends to make everything seem so ordinary - even great insight and brilliance.

My favorite Phil Ochs song, Crucifixion, speaks to this as well. The crowd wants to be entertained and they grow weary so quickly.

"So he stands on the sea, and he shouts to the shore.
But the louder that he screams, the longer he's ignored.
For the wine of oblivion is drunk to the dregs,
And the merchants of the masses almost have to be begged
Til the giant is aware that someone's pulling at his leg,
And someone is tapping at the door.

"Then his message gathers meaning and it spreads across the land.
The rewarding of the fame is the following of the man.
But ignorance is everywhere and people have their way,
And success is an enemy to the losers of the day.
In the shadows of th4e churches who knows what they pray.
And blood is the language of the band.

Ochs wrote that in 1966 but seems to be of the moment we are in as true now.

The understanding and violent consequences that slavery would be untouched by the Congress for twenty years as Joseph Ellis has documented so well as a pre-condition for the creation of a central government in place of the failing Articles of Confederation and what Obama refers to as our "original sin" is what we are now up against in this race. Now, as then, the racists have tried to take the high road and pretend that any characterization of racism is in itself racist. Any black man daring to suggest we are racist is promoting racism - Fanon said such a position is intellectually absurd of course but so what? That it is largely agreed upon or trivialized by the media hardly seems to matter. Rev. Wright cannot, by definition, be racist for identifying racism.

So now, it has come to us all at once without warning but somehow we knew it would come. All the paid endorsements and billionare black celebrities could not make this moment go away. Bill Clinton is not, after all, our first black president. Obama is telling us to come together or forever live apart. It's the challenge of our nation and the world around us. I wonder if we are up to it?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

yes! enough already.
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Mar 18, 2008 11:17 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
and why not concentrate on real issues, now.

this dead horse has taken enough beatings. perhaps we could REALLY deal with the economy, iraq, iran, global warming, health care, jobs, alternative energy, taxes, the middle class, school reform, drinking water, wealth disparity, aids, nafta, peak oil . . .

(you get the idea)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: yes! enough already. Posted by: djnoll
» RE: yes! enough already. Posted by: peacefullaim
Crowley's Point Is Itself Inspiring
Posted by: pdxstudent on Mar 18, 2008 11:42 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It’s depressing, but Michael Crowley’s point in response to the speech is important: “[It was] brilliant, beautiful, inspiring — but perhaps not what crass electoral politics demanded of him.”

That is, of course, if we drop the cynical distance his comment implies. Of course, Obama's speech was "brilliant, beautiful, inspiring." Of course, "crass electoral politics" are being demanded of him.

Which of these is really the problem? If you say the problem is with Obama, then you are speaking for "crass electoral politics." If you're like me and think that the problem is with "crass electoral politics," then in a way you are with Obama (as I've seen his platform and message evolve).

What Crowleys out there have to do is stop patting crass electoral politics on the back by pointing out how badly it beats out politicians like Obama (to say nothing of Kucinich of Edwards), with a disgusting tacit nod to how "that's the way things are; there's no use in changing them." It's a glorifying while actually participating a kind of political violence, and it needs to be pointed out for what it is.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The most telling passage in the whole speech
Posted by: Rune on Mar 18, 2008 11:54 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
". . . a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam."

Sorry, but the United States did not invade and occupy Iraq to influence the "ideologies of radical Islam." Many excuses were offered (enforce compliance with U.N. resolutions, depose a brutal, secular dictator for the good of the region, save the world and the U.S. from WMD supposedly known to be in Iraq, etc.) but the specious argument that Islamic terrorists were operating in Iraq with Saddam's blessing never had much of a following. As Obama pointed out to McCain recently, it was the U.S. invasion of Iraq and subsequent destruction of cultural cooperation and infrastructure in the name of imposing control through martial law (not to mention programs of dividing the population primarily along religious and ethnic lines that have turned into the battle lines of a civil war) that turned Iraq into the world's largest breeding and training ground for anti-western militant groups that brand themselves as defenders of Islam. Further, it is no secret that Israel and its leading champions in the U.S. and, especially in the current administration, has been pushing and collaborating with U.S. efforts to exert control of Middle Eastern states, including Syria, Lebanon, and Iran, through the use of military force that has killed, wounded, displaced, and damaged millions upon millions of innocent people, many of them children.

So, why is Obama buying into the lie that says the wars abroad that are crippling the international standing and financial health of the U.S. are the fault of a despised and often stereotyped religious and philosophical minority in a speech in which he is allegedly trying to bring the country together to move beyond the mire of prejudice and bigotry that continues to bog down efforts to move America forward? I think it is because he must.

The majority of the people of the United States are not willing or able to own up to the lies and injustice that have been both the substance and the product of their favorite myths about themselves and others in the world. They love the idea of living in peace and prosperity, especially at a time when they are so painfully aware of the lack of peace and prosperity on the horizon, but damned if they are going to own up to their own contributions to racial, sexual, national, and political prejudices that must be confronted and overcome if the nation is to grow up an move forward in the world. Much of America loves the dream Obama is selling, they just don't want to deal with the realities that stand in the way of the dream.

Obama is raising important issues and he is using lovely phrases to describe the potential benefits of dealing with them. But in the end, I think he knows that most of the country wants to resolve conflicts and disagreements by having others bend to their particular views and preferences rather than learning to accept and respect conflicting perspectives and preferences. Thus, Obama describes in lofty tones the grand potential of an America that lives up to the highest principles to be found in the Constitution and the words of those who have fought to improve it for the good of all, but he carefully avoids or distracts from the true cost that would be required to complete that journey.

Perhaps that is the best that anyone can manage right now. Perhaps the rekindling of dreams and hope in what may be a dark age for America and the world will one day pay off in real progress. For now, however, none of the candidates seem ready to lead the country where it wants to go because the reality of the journey is too long and harsh to be sold to a people that accepts entertainment, consumerism, and a presumption of national righteousness as pillars of the good life.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» nice post Posted by: Drclaw
Where's the beef?
Posted by: hotdog on Mar 18, 2008 12:54 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama spoke eloquently on the Wright affair, contextualizing it with the long history of race relations in the US and the broader challenges facing the US.

But, then, he continued with platitudes of hope and unity, not a policy initiative or program to hang his hat on.

Eloquent rhetoric is enough for many voters but many of us understand that government is ultimately about policy.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It wasn't a policy speech Posted by: Declan
Brilliant!
Posted by: Robba29 on Mar 18, 2008 2:19 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is the mind of Obama that understands these issues and the need for these issues to be articulated in a way that reaches out to all Americans. It is the courage to tackle them head on and deal with them that shows true leadership. I believe that these characteristics alone show his ability to lead this country. It is not just platitudes and rhetoric--it is the mark of a person who is given to clarity of thought and action. I have no doubt the decisions and policies that will come from him and the team he assembles will be made with the same desire to heal old wounds. Until this moment, I felt only Edwards had that understanding to trascend the political game. Obama has earned my support with this. Obama for president!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Brilliant! Posted by: peacefullaim
The Spin Pundants of Hate
Posted by: deapp on Mar 18, 2008 3:02 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Spin Pundants of Hate has already begin to try to terrorize the minds of the racist sick by saying Obama called his White GrandMother a racist. Hennedy, the hell bound weasel sounding nerd of Hate, continues to preach to his Klan members to divide and lynch by all means. Capital Hill's former whore, Newt Gingrich, refuse to listen to what Obama said and continue to hound him for his defense of his Pastor. Neil Bortz, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medvik, O'Rielly and I can go on but I need to go outside and scream.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» you were expecting maybe... Posted by: Drclaw
» Chickenshits and junkies Posted by: hurricane hugo
» RE: The Spin Pundants of Hate Posted by: mnascimento
A great speech...
Posted by: radiomorning on Mar 18, 2008 3:26 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
One that voters can ill afford to ignore or let the pundits downplay.
I have my concerns about Obama, mainly due to some questionable affiliations (CFR, &c.) but this speech really gave me hope that if he is elected, America will really change for the better. I would be sold if Kucinich ran as VP, but I think we all know that's not going to happen.

Here's hoping.

Go Barack!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Crowley's got it
Posted by: mark on Mar 18, 2008 3:34 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In fact, I was thinking the same thing while watching the speech. Obama consistently comes up with downright significant addresses, that unfortunately our media organizations aren't equipped to deal with, at least not honestly. He's casting his pearls before swine.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Sadly
Posted by: JSquercia on Mar 18, 2008 3:35 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes sadly nuance doesn't play well in American Politics .Screaming lies works soo o much better

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Obama Proves the Point
Posted by: Kym525 on Mar 18, 2008 4:50 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
that our society is race-obsessed to the exclusion of anything else. Why should it be a big deal that a black man is running for president? The questions we should be asking is can he lead us further into the 21st century in a positive direction? Is he qualified to lead? Can he work with the disparate elements of our government and get things done, and can he engage the American people to roll up their sleeves?

It's not the fact that people want his to distance himself from Rev. Wright's comments (which are neither racist nor anti-American), it's the fact that many whites are simply afraid of righteous black rage. As long as black people are singing "we shall overcome", everything is fine. It's the other side--the anger, the pain, the frustration of being black in a country that denigrates blackness and considers black people inferior--that many whites do not want to hear. Obama's not the "angry black man" as such, but Americans of all stripes are being put in check. We can no longer pretend racism doesn't exist or minimize its effects. We have to talk about it, no matter how uncomfortable it makes us. Honesty is painful, but th alternative is far worse.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Obama Proves the Point Posted by: desidid
» race is a construct Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
A Breath of Fresh Air
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Mar 18, 2008 6:34 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I've supported Obama from the beginning, and now I feel confirmed. In contrast to McCain's harsh, macho jingoism and Clinton's divisive, soulless Machiavellianism, Obama's conciliatory, rational and, yes, nuanced style is a breath of fresh air. The world isn't dichotomous, bipolar, black and white, and those who think it is have wreaked enough havoc on this longsuffering planet.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Amazing speech
Posted by: RobNLA on Mar 18, 2008 7:43 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I watched the entire speech today and quite honestly it stunned me with it's intelligence and frankness.
Obama spoke about race in a very personal way, relating it to his experiences. It effected those that raised him and those he looked to for guidance.
And explained how racism, prejudice and discrimination have made our country weaker, and how we need to focus on our commonalities to make our country stronger.
He made it clear it's not a quick solution, but a long process that begins with a few good steps in the right direction.
Obama brings a unique perspective to national politics and he shared it with us in depth today.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

A personal story about race & segration
Posted by: foreverhope on Mar 18, 2008 10:26 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I was raised in the days of segration. I rarely saw a person of color until I was 15 years old. I spent my earliest school years on a military base, and we did have a family of black people that lived in the next apartment. But I have NO IDEA where their kids went to school, it wasn't with me that is for sure.

When we lived in Missouri my parents sent me to a private school, and having no one left to ask, I assume this was done to keep me segragated from minorities in the Kansas City area.

Then back to California and public school, but STILL no black people, lots of hispanics although by today's standard not so many.

When I was 15 I met my first black friend. In my entire high school there was ONE black kid. He came over one day to give my sis a ride to a school event. He really couldn't have been more respectful or polite to my dad, a proper introduction, shook hands and they were gone.

My step-dad turned to me and said, I have NEVER forgotten his exact words, "If those are the sort of people you want to hang around with we will move to Watts!"

My folks were really BIG on the Kennedys', and certainly coming from Ireland my own mom knew very well what bigotry and discrimation are and what they can do. But she was not there that day.

I was SO shocked and SO disgusted, I was repulsed, sickening, disbelieving, and very very angry.

Anyway, to cut to the end, this young man was really an outstanding individual in many ways and he became GREAT friends of our family. In fact he became just LIKE family.

In the year that followed I became very active in the civil rights movement of the 1960's. GOSH! Those were EXCITING times. I am as glad to have been a part of that as I am to be supporting Barack Obama today.

Six years later our friend was with me the night my mother died and he was a pall bearer at her funeral.

But it is hard to believe I never really got to know a black person until I was 15, but I remember not a single racist or bigoted word out of my dad's mouth until that day. Race just never came up at all, at least not around me.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Clinton works
Posted by: angelofdeath on Mar 19, 2008 2:33 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
THE TORRES-VIGNALI CONNECTION is explored in detail in a congressional report that resulted from Pardongate, when revelations surfaced that President Clinton granted clemency for Carlos Vignali Jr. — convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 15 years in federal prison in 1995 — along with other convicted criminals and one-time international fugitive Marc Rich. The granting of clemency occurred after payments were made to Clinton’s brother-in-law, Hugh Rodham, the brother of former first lady, New York state senator and 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

clinton works part 2
Posted by: angelofdeath on Mar 19, 2008 2:57 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The report takes to task top L.A. elected officials, including county Supervisor Gloria Molina, then–state Senator Richard Polanco, then–state Assemblyman Antonio Villaraigosa and U.S. Representative Xavier Becerra, among others, for lobbying on behalf of Vignali Jr., in light of his drug conviction and the fact that DEA agents long suspected Vignali Sr. to be involved in drug trafficking — along with Torres. While a member of the California state Assembly, Villaraigosa wrote the first letter on Vignali’s behalf on May 24, 1996.

In particular, L.A. Sheriff Lee Baca and former U.S. Attorney Alejandro Mayorkas were heavily criticized for lobbying for Vignali Jr.’s clemency. The report found the input of Baca and Mayorkas to the White House to be “instrumental” in the decision to grant clemency to Vignali Jr., who at his drug-trafficking trial in 1994 confirmed a close family association with Torres. Attorneys for Torres told the Weekly in 2005 that the association between the Vignalis and Torres has long since ended.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Finally, an adult candidate for president
Posted by: realist on Mar 19, 2008 8:20 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As much as anything, I was impressed by Obama's willingness to talk to me like I was an adult. Compared to all the schoolyard name-calling that passes for political thought these days, it was a truly refreshing and remarkable moment that I feared was no longer possible.

I've seen a lot of comparisons being made to Lincoln. For those who are curious about the comparison, I'd particularly recommend that you go read Lincoln's Cooper Union speech. The earnestness, the thoughtfulness, the straightforward logic and the respect for the audience in both speeches is remarkably similar.

I was initially worried that Obama's speech would actually end up like Lincoln's Gettysburg Address - which was largely criticized at the time for failing to employ the long-winded, grandiose oratorical flourishes that were so popular at the time, but went on to become one of the most revered speeches ever made. But it seems that Obama's speech is getting its due within the same news cycle.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

A Moment for our Generation.
Posted by: abstractmachine on Mar 19, 2008 10:03 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This speech was very moving. It really speaks to the power of ideas and oratory. I suppose Obama knew that issues of race would eventually reach critical mass that he would have to address and he was waiting to drop this bomb.

This, I think, is the greatest American political speech of my lifetime. Last night I was re-watching the speech on YouTube at that time there were 800,000 views. When I woke up I hit the refresh button and the number had changed to 1.2 million. Amazing!

Regardless how the media try to spin, parse, or ignore this speech, I have a feeling that it will go on to be not only one of the great moments of this campaign but a historic moment for our generation.

I couldn't help but wonder if McCain wasn't watching this and just shaking in his dusty boots.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Mar 19, 2008 2:43 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Only the knuckleheaded mouthbreathers in the Republican party and the right wingnuts on Faux News will be left in the dust of misunderstanding. They started this and now that Obama has responded to their racist rants and fear mongering they'll just do the only thing they know how to do, ignore it. They don't know how to have an intelligent adult conversation about an issue as important as the one they raised. They only brought up the issue of racism to make Obama look bad and now that he's responded brilliantly, they can only respond by ignoring the substance of his speech and continueing their stupid asinine rhetoric. They should be dropped into a hole and forgotten. They are no longer welcomed in America. We're on to them and much smarter than they ever were. They know it and they're desperate and they show it in every word they say.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]